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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 10:29 am

Good on Rapson for taking a stand, if more people had chipped away at the smaller problems Brent and PCC wouldn't get an easy ride when it gets to the knarlier ones. It is all so feckin predictable, yet again all, the freaks and weirdos get shouted down when they suggest that this will happen and lo and behold the freaks are right again! cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 11:57 am

It all appears to be one massive get Brent rich campaign, what a farce!
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 11:59 am

Tring- you're wrong.

You don't know me, you don't know how passionate I am about the city, or about my business.
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 12:00 pm

This has a way to run - as far as I can see there's no formal proposal (yet) for Cabinet to consider and vote on.

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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 12:03 pm

Mr Rapson, do you believe that underhand tactics are being used to remove traders from that part of the town so that maybe a developer could make a killing at a later time?
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 12:04 pm

Tim Chown wrote:
This has a way to run - as far as I can see there's no formal proposal (yet) for Cabinet to consider and vote on.

Tim
No but the path has been marked out and the process started making it obvious that one or two have had the idea for quite a while.
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 12:09 pm

Mrrapson wrote:
Tring- you're wrong.

You don't know me, you don't know how passionate I am about the city, or about my business.
But the pay to park is an essential part of the clusterfuck plans. 'Fall into line or James will walk away and then where will we be ? !'

What's a few little people and their businesses? One way or another, James gets what James wants.

Don't count on any support from the pasoti co owner, his site manager or any of the other toadies. Can't upset James can we ?
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 12:17 pm

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Mr Rapson, do you believe that underhand tactics are being used to remove traders from that part of the town so that maybe a developer could make a killing at a later time?
It's crossed my mind to be honest!

The market recently reduced it's opening hours, there was no consultation carried out like it was supposed to have been.

I've lost 300 per week in takings because of that.

The Christmas decorations are laughable at this end of town. It's poor effort from the council, they are supposed to support traders, national and local but...
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 12:22 pm

I think the council has bent so far over for Brent that he can basically keep dropping further little nuggets in their lap that they're forced to go along with them.

Just as Newell can threaten dissenting voices on pasoti by saying he might walk away if people oppose his plans, Brent himself can threaten the same to PIC and they're too far down the road to say no to him now.
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 12:43 pm

Mrrapson wrote:
GOB wrote:
Mr Rapson, do you believe that underhand tactics are being used to remove traders from that part of the town so that maybe a developer could make a killing at a later time?
It's crossed my mind to be honest!

The market recently reduced it's opening hours, there was no consultation carried out like it was supposed to have been.

I've lost 300 per week in takings because of that.

The Christmas decorations are laughable at this end of town. It's poor effort from the council, they are supposed to support traders, national and local but...
Considering that Brent has the hotel project you have to wonder if he is eyeing up something sweet for his hotel customers to look down on.
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 12:50 pm

Where are the green army going to Park on match days, NPC might gave them a discount
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 12:53 pm

It'll be interesting to see if PCC indirectly make wealth for a car park company at the expense of Council Tax payers!
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 1:34 pm

One direction, all in in together, common purpose, give me strength. (I know that one direction is a band and not a Tory strap line but it could and should be one.)
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 1:46 pm

Ever since I was told that "One Direction" was homophonic with something of an altogether different ilk it makes be snigger every time I see it.
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 4:10 pm

On the farm there was a question what is this to do with football, if he reads this site the answer is simple. who parks in the car-park on Saturday afternoon and some Tuesday nights. that right Argyle supporters. Will they pay to park on match day?
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 5:00 pm

I think the link is a bit more direct than that!
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 5:05 pm

I see it be moved to Terraces
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 5:21 pm

Charging for parking in the P&R will create huge pressure on the parking at the Life Centre so they'll start to charge too.

That'll be the end of any free parking in Central Park.

Which is cracking news if you are hoping to attract funding for a stonking great property development which includes an underground car park as a key component.

So what has this to do with Argyle? Well if the P&R stays free the parking at the Life Centre will stay free and the prospects of attracting a commercial partner to help build said underground car park are considerably diminished.

Which in turn would seriously impact on how the famous "numbers" add up.

Or not.

So expect the council to waive all objections as they wave the proposal through.
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 5:42 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 5:47 pm

That's the exact same quote they are using in the herald tomorrow.

I made it clear in response that we are aware that they don't want to introduce charges but are examining the idea of it, but that initself is enough of a reason to make our thoughts clear on the subject.
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 5:52 pm

If on the farm the controllers start to move anything that doesn't happen on PAFC land then they won't have feck all to talk about apart from mugs and stickers, hang on a minute...
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 6:14 pm

Sir Francis Drake wrote:
Charging for parking in the P&R will create huge pressure on the parking at the Life Centre so they'll start to charge too.

That'll be the end of any free parking in Central Park.

Which is cracking news if you are hoping to attract funding for a stonking great property development which includes an underground car park as a key component.

So what has this to do with Argyle? Well if the P&R stays free the parking at the Life Centre will stay free and the prospects of attracting a commercial partner to help build said underground car park are considerably diminished.

Which in turn would seriously impact on how the famous "numbers" add up.

Or not.

So expect the council to waive all objections as they wave the proposal through.
This.

So, elected individuals there to serve for the residents of Plymouth choose to smooth the road for James Brent to add to his personal wealth. What exactly does he have over them? Does no-one at PCC see what the next step is? How does this fit into green policies?

Disgrace.
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 6:15 pm

If the council start charging at p and r milehouse people will then park in the streets around the ground. The local residence complain enough now there is no where to park on match days. It could also be another reason not to go anymore. A lot of season ticket holders are already considering not renewing this could be the final straw.

If they do start charging this goes against the reason why the life centre was built. The life centre was built to get people more active and improve peoples health, but if you start charging people will stay away.
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 6:20 pm

I'm all for it, and there really ought to be some sort of bedroom tax for visitors not staying at the HHP Hotel (the Bent Motel) and any purchase made off site that could be purchased onsite should
be taxed as well, and Council Tax should rise because Mr Bent does so much for all of us here in Plymouth and takes nothing for himself.
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PostSubject: Re: Carpark charging   Carpark charging - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 04, 2013 6:22 pm

A massive own goal for PCC and indicative of their apparent blind and unwavering efforts to appease Brent. It beggars belief and I think that this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back in all this.
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