Carpark charging

It would be interesting to hear what the management team of the Life Centre think about the proposal.

Introducing parking charges for all car parks would also surely have a detrimental effect on the numbers visiting the retail/leisure ventures at HHP. Why go to the new cinema when parking at Vue is free.

And how about the residents of Milehouse and Peverell?

I don't think moving the topic to Terraces will be sufficient to keep it out of the public eye.

"The plan cannot be changed."

"It either all goes through or none of it does."

"There is no alternative."

"It's the only way the numbers add up."

Etc

So expect it to go through. Probably unanimously.

Followed by Residents Only parking zones in Milehouse and Peverell to appease the local residents.

Dont plymouth council want strangers to come to their village? if they start charging to park thats just another reason not to go to argyle or the city centre! is keeping brent sweet that important to them?

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

"The plan cannot be changed."

"It either all goes through or none of it does."

"There is no alternative."

"It's the only way the numbers add up."

Etc

So expect it to go through. Probably unanimously.

Followed by Residents Only parking zones in Milehouse and Peverell to appease the local residents.

Have you seen the price of permits £30 per car plus if visitors come to stay then it costs another £25 per year. can`t see them excepting that. Can`t wait for next years election tudor will struggle to stay in power.

But members of a city council scrutiny panel have now agreed to recommend that parking charges should be introduced at all three sites.

Councillors have now decided parking charges should be brought in at the sites, and will recommend the proposal gets a full debate

Under the scheme, pensioners and other concessionary pass-holders would have to pay to park

She said the aim of the parking charges should be to cover the annual £130,000 cost of maintaining the three park and ride car parks.

Cllr Murphy will now bring a report with the recommendations to the Cabinet.

These five quotes from the recommended report is enough for me not to believe what the Council have rushed out tonight.

lawnmowerman wrote:

Can`t wait for next years election tudor will struggle to stay in power.

Nail on head, Lawny. Up to now, the leaders of the council have taken the view that they can do whatever they want, including ignoring large sections of the population. But it's less than six months to the elections now, they're up for scrutiny and they're going to have to start to listen.

Pokesdown wrote:

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So, elected individuals there to serve for the residents of Plymouth choose to smooth the road for James Brent to add to his personal wealth. What exactly does he have over them? Does no-one at PCC see what the next step is? How does this fit into green policies?

Disgrace.

I know this is off-topic but it was suggested at the AFT meeting on Saturday that one contribution to the disparity in costs for the Akkeron proposals for the development & the AFT proposals was that Akkeron's apparently did not adhere to the Green Guide for new builds.

But to be fair these are suggestions from a sub-committee of the council.

That doesn't mean that there shouldn't be a campaign and it doesn't mean it shouldn't be seen as the thin end of a wedge.

knecht wrote:

Pokesdown wrote:

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So, elected individuals there to serve for the residents of Plymouth choose to smooth the road for James Brent to add to his personal wealth. What exactly does he have over them? Does no-one at PCC see what the next step is? How does this fit into green policies?

Disgrace.

I know this is off-topic but it was suggested at the AFT meeting on Saturday that one contribution to the disparity in costs for the Akkeron proposals for the development & the AFT proposals was that Akkeron's apparently did not adhere to the Green Guide for new builds.

Knecht,

that was me. I asked Martyn Starnes whether he would like to comment on the fact that some people didn't think that Akkeron's proposals for expanding the horseshoe would meet the Green Guide for football stadia. Particularly with reference to seating with restricted views. He said he wouldn't know.

mannameadbabe wrote:

A massive own goal for PCC and indicative of their apparent blind and unwavering efforts to appease Brent.  It beggars belief and I think that this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back in all this.  

Exactly why would PCC want to introduce car parking charges at Coypool. Its a bit of former MOD wasteland that is now a car park.Same up at Roborough,its just a car park in an area of traffic lights and traffic.Milehouse too was just a bit of land that doubled as a Park n Ride and a matchday car park.None of these sites have ever since time and memorial charged for car parking until now....

Some Argyle pensioners I spoke to from Somerset on Saturday have started using the Britannia on matchdays as they have nowhere else to go. They parked in the Life Centre car park to cut down on the amount of walking to and from the ground. Some one from the Life Centre seeing they were wearing Argyle jackets and scarfs told them they were not allowed to park there and Argyle fans had to park in the park and ride.

Wait for the chaos that this proposal will create. Residents parking in the streets around Home Park will be next. I've already had a mate tell me tonight that if this comes in it will be the last straw and he'll stop going to Argyle.

All so very very predictable!

It seems like an asset strip but he isn't content with just the Club, he wants an indirect income from Council Tax payers, residents and car drivers!

Nice to be able to discuss an Argyle issue on an Argyle forum, BTW.

The life centre and its car park are privately owned. No pun intended but it looks like things are about to kick off.

Meanwhile on the farm it takes until the bottom of page 2 for someone to point out exactly why they are doing it! It's exactly the same everywhere, I read yesterday that Amazon picked up £9 mil to build a warehouse in South Wales. What's this got to do with the football anyway? 

Well, a freedom of information request would quickly clarify whether the cost of maintenance on those three car parks really was £130k p.a., year on year. Is Damon in the ATD house?

Why would anyone pay to park and ride from there, rather than pay in the city? It doesn't add up.

Is there going to be a free park and ride further out that can be used by people like me who drive to Plymouth for home matches? It's costing me £40 a game in petrol as it is without adding another fiver for parking.

Tim Chown wrote:

Well, a freedom of information request would quickly clarify whether the cost of maintenance on those three car parks really was £130k p.a., year on year.  Is Damon in the ATD house?

Why would anyone pay to park and ride from there, rather than pay in the city?  It doesn't add up.

Is there going to be a free park and ride further out that can be used by people like me who drive to Plymouth for home matches?  It's costing me £40 a game in petrol as it is without adding another fiver for parking.

I can suggest a car with much better fuel consumption if that's of help to you    

Well, 50mpg isn't too bad.

I assume your van is gas powered

Tim Chown wrote:

Well, 50mpg isn't too bad.

I assume your van is gas powered

My car does 59 mpg, as for the new piece of junk ( Peugeot Expert) I've been issued with........... not a clue yet. Pity it's not gas powered, it would be quieter.

greensleeves wrote:

The life centre and its car park are privately owned. No pun intended but it looks like things are about to kick off.

No it not,

Everyone Active is a leading leisure operations company who’ve been awarded the contract by Plymouth City Council to work in partnership & manage 5 leisure venues within Plymouth. The vision is to work with all partners ensuring the venues remain an essential part of community life in Plymouth for years to come – plus help everyone stay active, healthier & happier.

A spokesperson for Life Centre operators Everyone Active, said: "As part of the contract to run the Plymouth Life Centre, Everyone Active is contracted to steward the car park on days where Plymouth Argyle play at home, to ensure that the car park remains free for users of the Life Centre and the parks. On this occasion the wrong information was given to the gentleman trying to park in the centre. In fairness this was the first occasion that the company we have sub-contracted to perform this task was being used, and there was some misunderstanding which has since been addressed. Customers of both the Life Centre and the park should rest assured that the car park will be free for them to use at all times, and this will not be affected by home football matches."

How on earth are they going to manage to exclude Argyle fans from the free parking in the Life Centre and yet allow others who claim to be intending to use Central Park?!!!!!!

Easy - all fans should abandon their usual attire, come in tracksuits and carry a squash raquet and water bottle.

Dingle wrote:

Easy - all fans should abandon their usual attire, come in tracksuits and carry a squash raquet and water bottle.  

And carry a dog to crap all over the place?

As most fans appear to be over sixty, leave the car at home and catch a bus for free, like me.

So a couple of people park their car in the Life Centre car park, they are not wearing any Argyle colours ( at least in sight), a steward asks if they are Argyle fans and they say " we wouldn't watch that crap, we're going for a walk in the park". They wander off and lo and behold they end up in Argyle.

Or a steward approaches them and gets told to feck off and mind their own business. "I'm a taxpayer and I've got as much right to park here as anyone else".

How the hell are they going to police that? If that car park is free, people will try to use it. I'll also lay money on it that the cost of parking in the park and ride will be the same or very close to the cost of the new car park otherwise people will always go to the free or cheaper one.

I would also point out that Argyle fans are also using the café in the Life Centre. As customers of the Life Centre does that give them the right to use the free car park? It bloody well should do!

Thank you LutonGreen for putting me right. I thought this was a bad idea for the residents of Plymouth and Plymouth Argyle supporters but how wrong can one be..

LutonGreen wrote:

I think it's great news for Argyle. If the parking charges for the HHP car park are low enough it should attract a lot of business away from the P+R car park and make the whole HHP development more viable.