Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:12 pm
VillageGreen wrote:
I actually agree with what Miliband has said regarding Libya.
There was no follow on plan in that country and as we have seen, it is chaos over there. I know Libya said that they did not wish for Western intervention, but the UK is at some fault along with other powerful nations.
Meanwhile, a death threat has been made to Scottish Labour politician Anas Sarwar. Behaviour of this kind is just not on and i find it really sad that British politics - and the interest it garners - has entered this kind of nastiness. We live in the UK, not some South-American back water country where this kind of behaviour is rife..
Its the same mistake they have made with Iraq and Afghanistan both will be war zones again and again because no one went in either country with a clear plan of action after removing its figure heads. All they did was create a game of the thrones like scenerio where several warlords want power and control and will fight for it.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:56 pm
SwimWithTheTide wrote:
Iggy wrote:
Europe don't make us any money, they take it from us, we make our own money, make our own trade deals, does anyone really think that all the money is shared out or something. What would really crack me up is if we ended up with a coalition of the welsh, Irish and Scottish running Britain, it could happen, What a feckin mess.
Why is that a mess, but England running Britain isn't?
Because the Welsh, Irish and Scots all have axes to grind about the English, try reading some history books and you'll understand. This idea of a fully integrated and love each other Britain is total bollocks. Everybody hates everybody else, north v south, welsh v English, Scotland v England, in case you havent noticed they all want out of Britain, the scots are only still here because Cameron renaged on the promises that turned the referendum to a no vote. Do you seriously think that a coalition of Wales, Scotland and Ireland would be good for Britain? It would see it dismembered in five years flat and we would be left to pick up the pieces when they all do their own thing.
zyph
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:25 pm
So do the English pay for Trident....whilst the others opt out of the UK......how does that work......could opting out be seen as treason....... .
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:14 pm
Free Cornwall!
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:35 pm
Call me Dave
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:38 pm
Iggy wrote:
SwimWithTheTide wrote:
Iggy wrote:
Europe don't make us any money, they take it from us, we make our own money, make our own trade deals, does anyone really think that all the money is shared out or something. What would really crack me up is if we ended up with a coalition of the welsh, Irish and Scottish running Britain, it could happen, What a feckin mess.
Why is that a mess, but England running Britain isn't?
Because the Welsh, Irish and Scots all have axes to grind about the English, try reading some history books and you'll understand. This idea of a fully integrated and love each other Britain is total bollocks. Everybody hates everybody else, north v south, welsh v English, Scotland v England, in case you havent noticed they all want out of Britain, the scots are only still here because Cameron renaged on the promises that turned the referendum to a no vote. Do you seriously think that a coalition of Wales, Scotland and Ireland would be good for Britain? It would see it dismembered in five years flat and we would be left to pick up the pieces when they all do their own thing.
I yearn for the day English people can have the same rights and perks as Welsh, Scottish and N.Ireland do like have its own parliment/assembley, its own national anthem and its flag allowed to be flown proudly by its people without being labled as an edl member or worse.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:47 pm
Iggy wrote:
SwimWithTheTide wrote:
Iggy wrote:
Europe don't make us any money, they take it from us, we make our own money, make our own trade deals, does anyone really think that all the money is shared out or something. What would really crack me up is if we ended up with a coalition of the welsh, Irish and Scottish running Britain, it could happen, What a feckin mess.
Why is that a mess, but England running Britain isn't?
Because the Welsh, Irish and Scots all have axes to grind about the English, try reading some history books and you'll understand. This idea of a fully integrated and love each other Britain is total bollocks. Everybody hates everybody else, north v south, welsh v English, Scotland v England, in case you havent noticed they all want out of Britain, the scots are only still here because Cameron renaged on the promises that turned the referendum to a no vote. Do you seriously think that a coalition of Wales, Scotland and Ireland would be good for Britain? It would see it dismembered in five years flat and we would be left to pick up the pieces when they all do their own thing.
When the Scots were having the vote on whether to stay or go, i had a look online to see what the Welsh view was for them leaving the UK. From what i read, the Welsh have no desire to leave the UK anytime soon.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:11 pm
Rickler wrote:
Free Cornwall!
Even Lisa Simpson recognises the good fight
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:54 pm
Rickler wrote:
Free Cornwall!
You can keep it, even at that price.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:59 pm
Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:26 pm
And whilst he NHS crumbles, food banks are on the rise and more cuts on the horizon for the next five years, this; [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Words fail me.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:49 pm
Iggy wrote:
And whilst he NHS crumbles, food banks are on the rise and more cuts on the horizon for the next five years, this; [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Words fail me.
shame they cant pay more tax on those billions and not keep it in swiss banks
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:29 am
Iggy wrote:
And whilst he NHS crumbles, food banks are on the rise and more cuts on the horizon for the next five years, this; [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Words fail me.
Not only food banks......also a fuel bank has opened to help pay for gas and electric......this came about when certain food items where refused.....because some people couldn't afford the cost to cook them........the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:11 am
The EU are forcing organic farmers to use animal homeopathy.
British organic farmers are being forced to treat their livestock with homeopathic remedies under new European Commission rules which have been dismissed as "scientifically illiterate" by vets.
Although homeopathy has been called "rubbish" by Dame Sally Davies, the Government's Chief Medical Officer, organic farmers have been told they must use it as a first course of action under an EU directive that came into force in January.
The regulation means that animals could be left diseased or in pain for far longer than necessary, and organic meat could end up containing higher levels of bacteria,vets have warned. This article is on the front page of the..... Daily Telegraph....Sat 25th April.
Time to get out of this mad house of control.....as Nigel Farage has said "we want our country back"..... words of wisdom there personally......we are being suffocated by EU laws and losing ground every year to EU domination of our Parliament......we need to get our freedom back to make our own decisions.......VOTE UKIP.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:37 pm
This was an interesting read.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:06 pm
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:43 am
zyph wrote:
The EU are forcing organic farmers to use animal homeopathy.
British organic farmers are being forced to treat their livestock with homeopathic remedies under new European Commission rules which have been dismissed as "scientifically illiterate" by vets.
Although homeopathy has been called "rubbish" by Dame Sally Davies, the Government's Chief Medical Officer, organic farmers have been told they must use it as a first course of action under an EU directive that came into force in January.
The regulation means that animals could be left diseased or in pain for far longer than necessary, and organic meat could end up containing higher levels of bacteria,vets have warned. This article is on the front page of the..... Daily Telegraph....Sat 25th April.
Time to get out of this mad house of control.....as Nigel Farage has said "we want our country back"..... words of wisdom there personally......we are being suffocated by EU laws and losing ground every year to EU domination of our Parliament......we need to get our freedom back to make our own decisions.......VOTE UKIP.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:49 am
Current YouGov polling indicates that if there was a referendum on membership of the EU, the UK would vote to stay in by 45% to 35%. In September 2011 No was ahead by 52% to 30%. Yes has now been 10 points ahead for three months in a row.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:16 pm
Cornish Chris wrote:
Current YouGov polling indicates that if there was a referendum on membership of the EU, the UK would vote to stay in by 45% to 35%. In September 2011 No was ahead by 52% to 30%. Yes has now been 10 points ahead for three months in a row.
Those polls change daily and too often to really be used as evidence to back an argument or disprove it.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:20 pm
Angry wrote:
Cornish Chris wrote:
Current YouGov polling indicates that if there was a referendum on membership of the EU, the UK would vote to stay in by 45% to 35%. In September 2011 No was ahead by 52% to 30%. Yes has now been 10 points ahead for three months in a row.
Those polls change daily and too often to really be used as evidence to back an argument or disprove it.
Absolutely. Psephology is a mug's game. But it shows that Euroscepticism is far from universal. And, again, that UKIP's rise has coincided with a fall in Euroscepticism.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:40 pm
Cornish Chris wrote:
Angry wrote:
Cornish Chris wrote:
Current YouGov polling indicates that if there was a referendum on membership of the EU, the UK would vote to stay in by 45% to 35%. In September 2011 No was ahead by 52% to 30%. Yes has now been 10 points ahead for three months in a row.
Those polls change daily and too often to really be used as evidence to back an argument or disprove it.
Absolutely. Psephology is a mug's game. But it shows that Euroscepticism is far from universal. And, again, that UKIP's rise has coincided with a fall in Euroscepticism.
I will say one thing in UKIP's defence i dont see any of the other parties both left and right being bombarded with smears and abuse from both the left and the right media outlets on a daily basis.
Yesterdays news or was it the day before when the mail and the mirror both tried saying Ian Brady and Ian Huntley were UKIP supporters Nothing like a barrel being scraped
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:43 pm
I don't know about that, have you not seen the way the Tory press have gone after Miliband? I'm not his biggest fan at all, but they're definitely playing the man not the ball.
Not that Labour are immune, I remember when they tried to play the class card against a Tory in a by-election in Cheshire a few years ago and it backfired totally.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:03 pm
Cornish Chris wrote:
I don't know about that, have you not seen the way the Tory press have gone after Miliband? I'm not his biggest fan at all, but they're definitely playing the man not the ball.
Not that Labour are immune, I remember when they tried to play the class card against a Tory in a by-election in Cheshire a few years ago and it backfired totally.
Indeed, in fact the personal attacks on Miliband have severely backfired and now Labour appear to have the upper hand in approval ratings. In terms of PR, none of the parties have stood out. Labour doing the traditional 'attack the current govt', UKIP not appealing to anyone outside their core vote and the Lib Dems failing to recover from the tuition fees saga again.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:28 pm
Iggy wrote:
And whilst he NHS crumbles, food banks are on the rise and more cuts on the horizon for the next five years, this; [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Words fail me.
This crumbling NHS, is it the same one which is having more money than ever spent on it, is treating more patients than ever and which actually has patient satisfaction levels at close to the all time high?
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:40 pm
Lord Tisdale wrote:
Iggy wrote:
And whilst he NHS crumbles, food banks are on the rise and more cuts on the horizon for the next five years, this; [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Words fail me.
This crumbling NHS, is it the same one which is having more money than ever spent on it, is treating more patients than ever and which actually has patient satisfaction levels at close to the all time high?
Says more about how the NHS is run by the suits to me.
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