General Election Countdown who is going to win

gasser9 wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

What 'fiasco' would that be then?

You win. I haven't got the time to answer that.
However if you have got the time please tell me what good the last labour government did for this country.

Introducing the minimum wage. Smoking ban in pubs and restaurants (how I wish it had been in place when I was doing bar work). The Good Friday peace agreement and Stormont. Devolving power to Wales and Scotland. Allowing the Bank of England to set the base interest rate, rather than leaving it to the chancellor. Hunting ban. Bailing out the banks in '08 rather than allowing the economy to go totally to shit. Handing the incoming Coalition an economy that had been growing for two quarters in a row after the shitstorm of the credit crunch.

Shame about the millions of dead Iraqis, though. That's why I never voted for them.

gasser9 wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

What 'fiasco' would that be then?

You win. I haven't got the time to answer that.
However if you have got the time please tell me what good the last labour government did for this country.

Reacting quickly to bail out the banks, Northern Ireland, the minimum wage, sure start and leaving the economy in a state of fledgling growth. Iraq was a damaging legacy but then the Tories supported that didn't they.

Hows that for starters, mind you someone that thinks that an organisation that harboured known paedophiles linked to Government isnt worth bothering with.

Hugh Watt wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

What 'fiasco' would that be then?

You win. I haven't got the time to answer that.
However if you have got the time please tell me what good the last labour government did for this country.

Reacting quickly to bail out the banks, Northern Ireland, the minimum wage, sure start and leaving the economy in a state of fledgling growth. Iraq was a damaging legacy but then the Tories supported that didn't they.

Hows that for starters, mind you someone that thinks that an organisation that harboured known paedophiles linked to Government isnt worth bothering with.

northern ireland wasnt all labour to be fair not that they ever have with me a great deal of work was done before hand with major.

Angry wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

What 'fiasco' would that be then?

You win. I haven't got the time to answer that.
However if you have got the time please tell me what good the last labour government did for this country.

Reacting quickly to bail out the banks, Northern Ireland, the minimum wage, sure start and leaving the economy in a state of fledgling growth. Iraq was a damaging legacy but then the Tories supported that didn't they.

Hows that for starters, mind you someone that thinks that an organisation that harboured known paedophiles linked to Government isnt worth bothering with.

northern ireland wasnt all labour to be fair not that they ever have with me a great deal of work was done before hand with major.

True

I always laugh when people trot out the fairytale that the BBC is 'leftish' or full or 'bleeding heart liberals'. Its complete bullshit a bit like the claim that Farage, the ex- Conservative activist and former stockbroker is some sort of anti establishment renegade!

The chairman of the BBC Trust is Chris Patten, a former Conservative cabinet minister. The BBC's political editor, Nick Robinson, was once chairman of the Young Conservatives. Andrew Neil, the presenter of the BBC's main political programmes Daily Politics and This Week, is chairman of the Spectator magazine. There's plenty more conenctions between the Conversatives, Big business and the BBC if you look

Maybe they over compensate in an attempt to look unbiased?

I'd say the BBC go to painstaking lengths to be unbiased. Jeremy Paxman said after he retired that he was a 'One Nation Tory' - I'd genuinely never have guessed that, given how many times he's terrorised Conservative politicians over the years.

SwimWithTheTide wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

Delivering a perfectly balanced report is tough, near impossible when you've got the nonsense spewed from the UKIP far right - imagine trying to spin some of their bullshit as a good thing... Beyond comprehension really.

Owen Jones writes here about the right wing bias of the beeb: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and a couple of months later Farage wants an inquiry into the pro-left bias of the very same institute: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Who's right? Probably neither, as the beeb are run with the aim to provide balanced coverage. It doesn't work out perfectly for each individual programme, but on the whole it likely averages out to fair coverage. The idea that they're pro/anti one of the other is pure conjecture - cry baby tactics won't work for your man Nigel, I'm sorry but the truth is he showed himself up as a complete fool last night and that lies purely on his own shoulders, not the BBC.

As for Miliband and Balls, they're not the perfect duo for sure. This is an interesting article dispelling many of the myths draw up by the right-wing parties and press: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] For me, they're far greater than another five years of harsh, self serving Tory rule.

The BBC have admitted that there were 58 who were Conservative or UKIP sympathisers/voters but that there were 102 who supported left wing parties. Who's right well you work it out.
Milliband and Balls were hock deep into the last labour government who doubled our national debt, who sold our gold reserves and took us to war in Iraq on the basis of a lie. I wouldn't trust them with your money let alone mine and to my eternal shame I voted for Tony Blair in 1997 believing that this was the man and the party of the people. What a sham they were and Tony Blair should be tried at The Hague for war crimes.

gasser9 wrote:

SwimWithTheTide wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

Delivering a perfectly balanced report is tough, near impossible when you've got the nonsense spewed from the UKIP far right - imagine trying to spin some of their bullshit as a good thing... Beyond comprehension really.

Owen Jones writes here about the right wing bias of the beeb: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and a couple of months later Farage wants an inquiry into the pro-left bias of the very same institute: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Who's right? Probably neither, as the beeb are run with the aim to provide balanced coverage. It doesn't work out perfectly for each individual programme, but on the whole it likely averages out to fair coverage. The idea that they're pro/anti one of the other is pure conjecture - cry baby tactics won't work for your man Nigel, I'm sorry but the truth is he showed himself up as a complete fool last night and that lies purely on his own shoulders, not the BBC.

As for Miliband and Balls, they're not the perfect duo for sure. This is an interesting article dispelling many of the myths draw up by the right-wing parties and press: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] For me, they're far greater than another five years of harsh, self serving Tory rule.

The BBC have admitted that there were 58 who were Conservative or UKIP sympathisers/voters but that there were 102 who supported left wing parties. Who's right well you work it out.
Milliband and Balls were hock deep into the last labour government who doubled our national debt, who sold our gold reserves and took us to war in Iraq on the basis of a lie. I wouldn't trust them with your money let alone mine and to my eternal shame I voted for Tony Blair in 1997 believing that this was the man and the party of the people. What a sham they were and Tony Blair should be tried at The Hague for war crimes.

And who in the audience was supporting Labour? You think they're a left wing party?

I agree with you about Blair, truly. He's got a lot of blood on his hands, but I don't buy the incompetency line for Balls and Miliband. Labour is still riddled with hypocrites and self-serving arsewipes from the new-labour movement, but I do believe that Miliband will lead Labour back away from that stain on their politics - not in a radical enough direction for me, but certainly a start and greater direction than is offered by the Tories.

With regards to doubling the national debt, the Tories have increased the national debt by more in their 5 year term than Labour in 13. But, those figures in cash terms are meaningless. Apparently the net national debt stands at 75.7% of GDP and the deficit at 6%! The Huff' Post article I linked in above makes interesting reading.

SwimWithTheTide wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

SwimWithTheTide wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

Delivering a perfectly balanced report is tough, near impossible when you've got the nonsense spewed from the UKIP far right - imagine trying to spin some of their bullshit as a good thing... Beyond comprehension really.

Owen Jones writes here about the right wing bias of the beeb: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and a couple of months later Farage wants an inquiry into the pro-left bias of the very same institute: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Who's right? Probably neither, as the beeb are run with the aim to provide balanced coverage. It doesn't work out perfectly for each individual programme, but on the whole it likely averages out to fair coverage. The idea that they're pro/anti one of the other is pure conjecture - cry baby tactics won't work for your man Nigel, I'm sorry but the truth is he showed himself up as a complete fool last night and that lies purely on his own shoulders, not the BBC.

As for Miliband and Balls, they're not the perfect duo for sure. This is an interesting article dispelling many of the myths draw up by the right-wing parties and press: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] For me, they're far greater than another five years of harsh, self serving Tory rule.

The BBC have admitted that there were 58 who were Conservative or UKIP sympathisers/voters but that there were 102 who supported left wing parties. Who's right well you work it out.
Milliband and Balls were hock deep into the last labour government who doubled our national debt, who sold our gold reserves and took us to war in Iraq on the basis of a lie. I wouldn't trust them with your money let alone mine and to my eternal shame I voted for Tony Blair in 1997 believing that this was the man and the party of the people. What a sham they were and Tony Blair should be tried at The Hague for war crimes.

And who in the audience was supporting Labour? You think they're a left wing party?

I agree with you about Blair, truly. He's got a lot of blood on his hands, but I don't buy the incompetency line for Balls and Miliband. Labour is still riddled with hypocrites and self-serving arsewipes from the new-labour movement, but I do believe that Miliband will lead Labour back away from that stain on their politics - not in a radical enough direction for me, but certainly a start and greater direction than is offered by the Tories.

With regards to doubling the national debt, the Tories have increased the national debt by more in their 5 year term than Labour in 13. But, those figures in cash terms are meaningless. Apparently the net national debt stands at 75.7% of GDP and the deficit at 6%! The Huff' Post article I linked in above makes interesting reading.

See this about Ed Balls. Even he said they made mistakes about the economy.http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4033033.ece

I have been a labour supporter I have been left wing but now seem them for what they are.

Only UKIP can restore some sanity to this nation of ours.

gasser9 wrote:

SwimWithTheTide wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

SwimWithTheTide wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

Delivering a perfectly balanced report is tough, near impossible when you've got the nonsense spewed from the UKIP far right - imagine trying to spin some of their bullshit as a good thing... Beyond comprehension really.

Owen Jones writes here about the right wing bias of the beeb: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and a couple of months later Farage wants an inquiry into the pro-left bias of the very same institute: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Who's right? Probably neither, as the beeb are run with the aim to provide balanced coverage. It doesn't work out perfectly for each individual programme, but on the whole it likely averages out to fair coverage. The idea that they're pro/anti one of the other is pure conjecture - cry baby tactics won't work for your man Nigel, I'm sorry but the truth is he showed himself up as a complete fool last night and that lies purely on his own shoulders, not the BBC.

As for Miliband and Balls, they're not the perfect duo for sure. This is an interesting article dispelling many of the myths draw up by the right-wing parties and press: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] For me, they're far greater than another five years of harsh, self serving Tory rule.

The BBC have admitted that there were 58 who were Conservative or UKIP sympathisers/voters but that there were 102 who supported left wing parties. Who's right well you work it out.
Milliband and Balls were hock deep into the last labour government who doubled our national debt, who sold our gold reserves and took us to war in Iraq on the basis of a lie. I wouldn't trust them with your money let alone mine and to my eternal shame I voted for Tony Blair in 1997 believing that this was the man and the party of the people. What a sham they were and Tony Blair should be tried at The Hague for war crimes.

And who in the audience was supporting Labour? You think they're a left wing party?

I agree with you about Blair, truly. He's got a lot of blood on his hands, but I don't buy the incompetency line for Balls and Miliband. Labour is still riddled with hypocrites and self-serving arsewipes from the new-labour movement, but I do believe that Miliband will lead Labour back away from that stain on their politics - not in a radical enough direction for me, but certainly a start and greater direction than is offered by the Tories.

With regards to doubling the national debt, the Tories have increased the national debt by more in their 5 year term than Labour in 13. But, those figures in cash terms are meaningless. Apparently the net national debt stands at 75.7% of GDP and the deficit at 6%! The Huff' Post article I linked in above makes interesting reading.

See this about Ed Balls. Even he said they made mistakes about the economy.http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4033033.ece

I have been a labour supporter I have been left wing but now seem them for what they are.

Only UKIP can restore some sanity to this nation of ours.

Sanity in what sense? Using media sensationalism to conjure a blame of lesser, poorer classes and immigrants as the strain on the nation's wallets. Its fabricated bullshit, Gasser. That's ALL they represent, Farage made that very clear the other night.

Can I ask what it was that attract you previously to left politics and what exactly is it that's made you drop those principals? Sincere question, because I to find it somewhat bemusing and hard to comprehend.

Anyone fancy giving the Kipper PPC for Devonport a ring? Number's on the bottom of this leaflet.

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Anyone fancy giving the Kipper PPC for Devonport a ring? Number's on the bottom of this leaflet.

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Brilliant... And people believe they're a competent alternative?!

Saw this yesterday [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Sorry Swimmy but don't UKIP actually want us out of Europe (and that is their main campaign point) not the fact that they want to limit immigration (as does a pretty sizeable amount of the British public?) Saying that you have no policy when their main policy would probably landslide through an instant pullout IF anybody had the balls to stab their paymasters in the back and call a referendum.

Farage made the point in the debate that he wants us out of the EU because of its subsequent "open door immigration policy". That's Kip's sole focus, and as I've already stated above - they're playing into the media's fabricated notion that immigration is taking an intolerable strain on the UK economy.

I would agree that immigration is playing a part in a lot of our problems, I disagree that that is the sole reason Nigel wants us out of Europe, the £20bn saving in membership fees/bribes ect is a big reason and I've heard him say it. Anti kippers are the ones that are saying what you are, not the actual kippers.

I'm just going on what he's said in the leaders debates pal, his opportunity to canvas his opinion on a national level. And all he's done is complain about immigrants, complaining about their strain on the economy. DESPITE, their net contribution to our country. I mean Jesus Iggs, wake up and realise that they're playing deflection tactics away from the real menaces - the tax evading high earners. HSBC's aiding of tax evaders, large corporations paying a pittance of their tax bill with no consequence. Similar to how Sheridan is a distraction for the feckin mess of management of Brent's control of our club.

Yeh let's trust Cameron or Millipede to tax the high earners, something I would already doing but it's got feck all to do with me. I haven't watched any of the circuses but here is page 70 of Nigies election policy regarding Europe,

BREXIT
“We have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not combined. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed.”
WHY WE SHOULD
UK business and employment legislation and immigration rules. It seeks greater control over our law enforcement services, our foreign affairs and tax policy. There is significant momentum behind plans for a EU-wide army and police force. The EU ‘shares’ responsibility with us
for many other policy areas, including animal welfare, consumer protection, public health, space programmes, social policy, humanitarian aid and vocational training, to mention but a few.
On these and many other issues, our elected Westminster politicians are impotent. They pretend to have the power to influence these matters, but actually they have none. It is an out-of-sight, unaccountable, pan-European bureaucratic elite which has the final say and they do not consider Britain’s best interests. The European Parliament is no safeguard. It is a sham democracy: our MEPs are not allowed to generate or re-visit existing legislation. They
can only vote on decisions made by unelected Commissioners and, even then, their vote can be ignored.
We have nothing to lose and everything to gain by leaving the EU.
Despite the fact we are the world’s fifth largest economy and the seventh largest manufacturing nation, we will never again make a direct trade deal with any other nation until we leave the EU. We will never control our borders or manage immigration. We will never be able to prevent foreign trawlers plundering our seas of precious fish. If the EU’s plans for ‘tax harmonisation’ come to fruition, soon we may find we cannot even set our own taxes. What else is coming down the tracks?
A British exit from the EU, ‘Brexit,’ is the only choice open to us, if we are to make our own
LEAVE THE EU
UKIP’s position has been quite unfairly and misleadingly labelled ‘anti-Europe.’ We are not ‘anti-Europe,’ but we are firmly opposed to political integration within Europe.
Back in 1972, we were told we were joining a ‘common market.’ What we actually joined was a supranational political union. We have lost our rights of self-government in the stealth creation of a United States of Europe, which has its own flag, national anthem, parliament, central bank, court of justice, a vast civil service, and fledgling military and police forces.
The tentacles of the EU stretch into almost every area of our national life. The EU has complete control over British financial services, fishing, farming, energy and trade. It dictates
UKIP 2015 MANIFESTO > PAGE 70

I've said my piece Iggy. I've observed their actions of many months and I can only see them as the utterly disreputable, inherently racist organisation that they are - my opinion of course. They target those who lack a voice as a scapegoat of the country's issues, feeding off right-wing media's sensationalism and propaganda on the matter - articles like the absolutely abhorrent latest piece of trash by Katie Hopkins.

I can't stand David Cameron either, he, Osborne and his party are truly slimy bastards. Miliband's Labour is still full of hypocrites and they still pander too much towards Tory politics. The Greens are naive on many matters and they lack a quality public speaker in Bennett (though I find that point a null one, policies should come over sales techniques - but sadly that is where Farage wins votes, as Cornish Chris I think said earlier, he's a snake oil salesman). For me, at least they're a kinder, fairer alternative to mainstream politics that don't feed on hatred of others. Every party has their pros and cons, even UKIP as I happen to agree with them about HS2 not being value for money. I'd just prefer to see support of a party that fights for equality, honorable moral and ethical values and all round fairness rather than a party that feeds off white middle-class anger.

Katie Hopkins the media whore who if you offer her the money she will give you a sound bite or shag you in a farmers field in leafy barnstaple.

I highly doubt she believes the shit she says herself in truth.

Iain Duncan Smith has come up with the answer to zero-hours contracts......change the name to "flexible hours contracts".

Duncan-Smith also insisted that workers on zero-hour contracts where "more satisfied with their work-life balance" than those in full time jobs.

Yes of course Duncan-Smith it is great fun waking up in the morning wondering if your going to be phoned or texted that you are needed for work today......that you might earn some money to pay the bills......but Tories wouldn't know about such boring things as that would they.

zyph wrote:

Iain Duncan Smith has come up with the answer to zero-hours contracts......change the name to "flexible hours contracts".

Duncan-Smith also insisted that workers on zero-hour contracts where "more satisfied with their work-life balance" than those in full time jobs.

Yes of course Duncan-Smith it is great fun waking up in the morning wondering if your going to be phoned or texted that you are needed for work today......that you might earn some money to pay the bills......but Tories wouldn't know about such boring things as that would they.

totally agree. They are becoming more and more prominent since the condem came to power especially in Plymouth.

SwimWithTheTide wrote:

I've said my piece Iggy. I've observed their actions of many months and I can only see them as the utterly disreputable, inherently racist organisation that they are - my opinion of course. They target those who lack a voice as a scapegoat of the country's issues, feeding off right-wing media's sensationalism and propaganda on the matter - articles like the absolutely abhorrent latest piece of trash by Katie Hopkins.

I can't stand David Cameron either, he, Osborne and his party are truly slimy bastards. Miliband's Labour is still full of hypocrites and they still pander too much towards Tory politics. The Greens are naive on many matters and they lack a quality public speaker in Bennett (though I find that point a null one, policies should come over sales techniques - but sadly that is where Farage wins votes, as Cornish Chris I think said earlier, he's a snake oil salesman). For me, at least they're a kinder, fairer alternative to mainstream politics that don't feed on hatred of others. Every party has their pros and cons, even UKIP as I happen to agree with them about HS2 not being value for money. I'd just prefer to see support of a party that fights for equality, honorable moral and ethical values and all round fairness rather than a party that feeds off white middle-class anger.

Just like Tony Blair promised. I nearly spewed up into my Weetabix reading that.
They are a bunch of f#cking hypocrites. The labour party isn't a socialist party anymore TB saw to that.
Give me a proper socialist party and I might think again but Milliband and Balls no thank you.

gasser9 wrote:

SwimWithTheTide wrote:

I've said my piece Iggy. I've observed their actions of many months and I can only see them as the utterly disreputable, inherently racist organisation that they are - my opinion of course. They target those who lack a voice as a scapegoat of the country's issues, feeding off right-wing media's sensationalism and propaganda on the matter - articles like the absolutely abhorrent latest piece of trash by Katie Hopkins.

I can't stand David Cameron either, he, Osborne and his party are truly slimy bastards. Miliband's Labour is still full of hypocrites and they still pander too much towards Tory politics. The Greens are naive on many matters and they lack a quality public speaker in Bennett (though I find that point a null one, policies should come over sales techniques - but sadly that is where Farage wins votes, as Cornish Chris I think said earlier, he's a snake oil salesman). For me, at least they're a kinder, fairer alternative to mainstream politics that don't feed on hatred of others. Every party has their pros and cons, even UKIP as I happen to agree with them about HS2 not being value for money. I'd just prefer to see support of a party that fights for equality, honorable moral and ethical values and all round fairness rather than a party that feeds off white middle-class anger.

Just like Tony Blair promised. I nearly spewed up into my Weetabix reading that.
They are a bunch of f#cking hypocrites. The labour party isn't a socialist party anymore TB saw to that.
Give me a proper socialist party and I might think again but Milliband and Balls no thank you.

I agree with you on that point Gasser, you're repeating what I say. But do you not see the ethically driven values of the Greens, despite their naivity, as a greater alternative and protest vote than the hatred fueled Ukip?

Do me a favour Swimmy, hate filled? I know a few kippers, dull, uninteretsing and some of them are are slightly interbred I would imagine but hate filled? I would save that for the anti kippers you included. You clearly had no idea about UKIP policy yet you are vehemently opposed to them. Present you with some facts and you ignore them saying "my mind is already made up" pmsl, people like you are manna from heaven for the controllers, geddon bhey, fall in line and drop those trousers cos life's coming to get you and he's got a huge boner on.

Greens... a party of no ones who have a policy of total madness.....the pot will never be deep enough to do half of their scatty ideas....a wasted vote.....vote UKIP... and get our country back from Europe and the status quo that is ruining this country.....lets take charge of our own destiny.