General Election Countdown who is going to win

Theresa May's interview was a pleasure as well, if you've ever wondered what a car crash in slow motion might sound like - it's that very interview.

Appalling, but the best 11 minutes of my week. Time after time she fails to answer questions on the housing plans, NHS and future Conservative leadership. The woman is awful, fingers crossed she's never representing the country at anything ever.

Flat_Track_Bully wrote:

Lord Tisdale wrote:

Oh dear, everybody knows the Greens are pro referendum, trouble is they are heavily pro EU as long as the EU agrees to amend the rules to include some rubbish it is never going to agree to in a million years, the Greens are basically dimmer than the average Garg, plus their economic strategy is similar to the one which got you bust except they would never get three free stands and a pitch out of it, not to mention them being the terrorist's friend.

ps. UKIP is on record as being 100% against TTIP.

You got any more crap you want to post?

The single reason I would vote UKIP is because so many clueless fuckwits post untrue drivel about them, I love an under dog me.

Some worrying polling for Nigey, ComRes put him in second place in South Thanet, looks a pretty bull shit poll to me but after Survation put him 11% in front in Feb this is a bit of a knock back.

You get a referendum with the Greens, which is what you want. Their stance on the EU doesn't determine the result of the referendum. The SNP were pro independence, but they didn't get independence with their referendum.

All UKIP appear to have said is that they'd exclude the NHS from the TTIP (http://www.paulnuttallmep.com/tag/ttip/), not that they are against the treaty, or these sort of free trade deals in principle. There's no mention of TTIP I can find on the UKIP website.

You don't actually get anything with the Greens, they are an irrelevance who might hang on to their one seat and save half a dozen deposits if they perform out of their skins.

UKIP, in the form of Saint Nigey, stated that they were against TTIP but that formalising their opposition would be pointless because it will be an EU issue over which we shall have no choice, the shibboleth is Brexit, without that the major issues relating to immigration and our relationships with the rest of the world cannot begin to be addressed.

Nuttall is a wanker, nuff said.

Josh Pope wrote:

Tis, is your hatred of the EU based on anything other than anger?

We'd better stay in the EU if our economy is so tinpot compared to the rest of the world.

You're a child Josh, you have no idea how we as a people were lied to by all the politicians, the Common Market was portrayed as a trading block and nothing more, the entire weight of the establishment was thrown behind the Yes campaign in 1975 and the sheeple voted as they were told.

It is time that the development from trading block to a supra national government which controls our lives and our futures was put to the British people to see if we want all our decisions to be made for us by foreign bureaucrats who are not directly elected.

The UK economy ranks 148th in a list of economies rated by growth, the top major Euro zone economy is Germany at 183rd, this crap about the benefits of EU membership is just that, crap. You tell me how EU membership is such a benefit when 182 countries which are not in the EU are doing better than the top performing major Euro zone economy?

Freed from the constraints of EU membership the UK economy would prosper like the other 181 non EU members which are doing better than the Germans, open up your mind child and look at the reality rather than the propaganda, the rich, politicians and big business love the EU because it is designed to shovel all the power and the money their way, so far they have managed to steal just about everything from the nation states, now they want an EU army to stop us from ever being able to escape their evil clutches, hate 'em, I forking loathe them, but tbh I hate the forkwit sheeple who continue to vote for pro EU parties even more, they hand over the power and freedoms which millions fought and died for as little as 60 years ago without having a forking clue what they are doing.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

To be fair since the early polling the voters of Thanet have had a chance to get a good look at Farage and good ol' Nigey has had a chance to get his message across. That has probably affected the recent polling.

Went to see the great man Monday night, he is absolutely electric live, the good people of Thanet will soon come around and will vote him into the House where he can save this country from the inane wankerage of Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and that crunt Salmond.

The cult of Farage is a strange one. He's just a PR man like Cameron - he has nothing to offer that's any different from your bog-standard Alan B'Stard Tory backbencher. His genius is as a salesman - he knows exactly where the Tory hard right's G-spot is. Definitely in the same class as Blair, Boris, Clegg and the rest in the charisma stakes.

The Tories still keeping those cards close to the chest then. Sexy Em interviewed Gove on Newsnight last night.

Cornish Chris wrote:

The cult of Farage is a strange one. He's just a PR man like Cameron - he has nothing to offer that's any different from your bog-standard Alan B'Stard Tory backbencher. His genius is as a salesman - he knows exactly where the Tory hard right's G-spot is. Definitely in the same class as Blair, Boris, Clegg and the rest in the charisma stakes.

As usual CC is way off, I went along to see Nigey in Thurrock, got there early and had a chat with a fair few local activists. There were a number of knob jockey Tories like you would expect but a good majority of the people running the local campaign were ex Labour Party, union members, made redundant when Tilbury power station was closed due to EU diktat.

People are waking up the fact that they have been had up the pooper by all the LibLabCon scum, Thurrock should be prime Labour fare, piss poor, loads of unemployed and little investment, UKIP have a local lad standing who in addition to being an MEP works mega hard as a local councilor as well, it was a Tory marginal from Labour, the Tory hasn't been seen nor heard from, the Labour candidate has ventured into the constituency twice despite living there, yeah right, Ed Miliband's top bunny actually lives in her Islington flat, paid for by our taxes.

Nigey is far more than a salesman, he is trying to break a mould and bust open the political cartel, he is far and away the best performer whether on stage or one to one with the public, as long of course as you aren't some forkwit from the fascist UAF, notable for their absence on Monday, trying to hit him on the head with a sign.

ps. Blair is a murdering bastard, Boris a gobby fork'tard and Clegg just an empty shirt, Nigey has done far more than any of them in dragging a new party from nowhere to within a decent sized step of real power, the other three just play the game within an existing structure.

^ Nigel's mum fore shore.

Lord Tisdale wrote:

Cornish Chris wrote:

The cult of Farage is a strange one. He's just a PR man like Cameron - he has nothing to offer that's any different from your bog-standard Alan B'Stard Tory backbencher. His genius is as a salesman - he knows exactly where the Tory hard right's G-spot is. Definitely in the same class as Blair, Boris, Clegg and the rest in the charisma stakes.

As usual CC is way off, I went along to see Nigey in Thurrock, got there early and had a chat with a fair few local activists. There were a number of knob jockey Tories like you would expect but a good majority of the people running the local campaign were ex Labour Party, union members, made redundant when Tilbury power station was closed due to EU diktat.

People are waking up the fact that they have been had up the pooper by all the LibLabCon scum, Thurrock should be prime Labour fare, piss poor, loads of unemployed and little investment, UKIP have a local lad standing who in addition to being an MEP works mega hard as a local councilor as well, it was a Tory marginal from Labour, the Tory hasn't been seen nor heard from, the Labour candidate has ventured into the constituency twice despite living there, yeah right, Ed Miliband's top bunny actually lives in her Islington flat, paid for by our taxes.

Nigey is far more than a salesman, he is trying to break a mould and bust open the political cartel, he is far and away the best performer whether on stage or one to one with the public, as long of course as you aren't some forkwit from the fascist UAF, notable for their absence on Monday, trying to hit him on the head with a sign.

ps. Blair is a murdering bastard, Boris a gobby fork'tard and Clegg just an empty shirt, Nigey has done far more than any of them in dragging a new party from nowhere to within a decent sized step of real power, the other three just play the game within an existing structure.

Interesting that they let you in: UKIP have been very worried about letting unvetted people anywhere near the sainted Nigel.  You must be in the party's good books.

Interesting too that Carswell wasn't around at the manifesto launch - it sounds like Carswell and Farage are barely on speaking terms any more, unsurprisingly given that Carswell's dad was one of those who identified HIV/Aids in Uganda in the 1980s. The party are diverting resources from around the south-east to the increasingly desperate fight to get Nige over the line in Thanet - to the expense of Mark Reckless's re-election campaign in Rochester. Both are now essentially independents.

I wasn't saying I particularly admire any of those three, it's just that, like Nigel, they're good charismatic salesmen.

It's also worth pointing out that UKIP haven't had anything like the impact that the SNP have had north of the border.

JANNER!!......JANNER!!!


He should stand trial. If he is well enough to remember to claim expenses he is well enough to stand trial and answer these allegations and be judged so. Not allowing him to stand trial due to dementia is an insult to victims and again shows the level of coverups where child abuse is concerned.

Cornish Chris wrote:

It's also worth pointing out that UKIP haven't had anything like the impact that the SNP have had north of the border.

I think if UKIP gave it bollocks with the Union nonsense and came out as overtly English Nationalist they would do far better, that would of course brand them as racist while Sturgeon's Sweaty Socks seem to get a wave on that.

Hardly surprising that Lord 'Janner' would turn out to be a wrong'un, imagine the furore if he had been a UKIP supporter rather that dyed in the wool Labour.

Lord Tisdale wrote:

Cornish Chris wrote:

It's also worth pointing out that UKIP haven't had anything like the impact that the SNP have had north of the border.

I think if UKIP gave it bollocks with the Union nonsense and came out as overtly English Nationalist they would do far better

It's worked brilliantly for the English Democrats hasn't it?  

I know he's your hero, but he's just a snake-oil salesman. That really is all there is to it. He's got nothing new to say that you can't get in the Daily Mail, or the old Conservative Monday Club.

Cornish Chris wrote:

Lord Tisdale wrote:

Cornish Chris wrote:

It's also worth pointing out that UKIP haven't had anything like the impact that the SNP have had north of the border.

I think if UKIP gave it bollocks with the Union nonsense and came out as overtly English Nationalist they would do far better

It's worked brilliantly for the English Democrats hasn't it?  

I know he's your hero, but he's just a snake-oil salesman. That really is all there is to it. He's got nothing new to say that you can't get in the Daily Mail, or the old Conservative Monday Club.

Tillbrook ain't no Nigey and now is the time to grab the English bull by the horns, the apprehension of SNP exerting pressure on Ed is real, UKIP have the profile to make it work.

I don't get the snakeoil analogy, UKIP have some interesting policies and are the only party looking to address the problem of unlimited immigration and every UKIP hater I come across simply doesn't appear to have a grasp of what their policies actually are, they have simply swallowed hook line and sinker the propaganda of the media parroting the left, once you put them straight they have no constructive argument.

Lies, damn lies and anti UKIP bull shit are the orders of the day in the biased media, the audience in tonight's debate was so totally a bunch of lefty wankers that it was embarrassing for even such turds as the BBC. The upside is that as much as the lefty twattery wants to gloat about how well Ed and the three harpies did, they forget that 50% of the people watching will have been right leaners who will have been disgusted with the pathetic ganging up on Nigey, they, in the absence of Cammy, will gravitate toward the Kip, I expect a couple or three point bump in the polls over the next week or so.

Jesus Tis, I thought you must have been some kind of parody account, but your vitriol for any politics of the left (which to me tend to represent a desire for greater fairness and equality) is actually real isn't it?

You're frustrated by "anti UKIP" bullshitters not having a retort to your disgust of the country's immigration policy, but what is your opinion on the net contribution that immigrants deliver to this country? Sturgeon, I think, raised the point to Farage of which he had no comeback.

Your hero made a total fool of himself tonight. Firstly with his paranoid conspiracy of a leftist Beeb, he was quickly and rightly put in his place by Dimbleby. Later he was blubbering on about a European Army and questioned as to whether Miliband would be entering this, if it arose. Clearly he was anticipating an answer of yes from red Ed, and had a rehearsed speech as to why it was going to be terrible, but unfortunately for him Miliband quite simply responded with a concise answer, "no". Regardless, Farage seemed to wish to continue with his argument, before realise he wasn't actually arguing with or against anyone, he just became a blubbering idiot. Then he made the remark that he would have been happy to work closely with Labour in a potential coalition government, but he was too outraged by their pro-EU stance and subsequent immigration policy. Dimbleby called him out and exposed him and the party for what they are, the ONLY reason he wouldn't work with Labour was due to immigration, that is the absolutely essential core of Ukips politics. An inherently racist and nasty party full of completely unlikable bigoted men, fortunately that haven't achieved even a scratch of the support you've disillusioned yourself into believing they have.

Well thats politics covered, lets talk about Catholics and birth control.

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

pepsipete wrote:

Well thats politics covered, lets talk about Catholics and birth control.

Farage - about as useful as a condom machine in the Vatican!

Enjoyed the leaders debate on TV last night ( in a laugh my tits off sort of way). Farage got quite a savaging - but that was always going to happen, especially with a very carefully selected lefty audience wheeled in by the BBC. God, I fooking hate politicians. Full of shit, the lot of them, all spewing their carefully scripted and camera crafted, starry-eyed shite, all with Hollywooed-esque perfect hair.

All kuunts, I know, but a smidgen of kudos has to go to Farage - at least he has the balls to say what he thinks - unlike the other smooth talking, utterly lying bastards.

I won't be voting for any other wankers.

They are all so detached from Joe-blogs scrapping a living, they'd just as well be from another planet. Preferably Uranus.

gasser9 wrote:

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

What 'fiasco' would that be then?

gasser9 wrote:

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

Delivering a perfectly balanced report is tough, near impossible when you've got the nonsense spewed from the UKIP far right - imagine trying to spin some of their bullshit as a good thing... Beyond comprehension really.

Owen Jones writes here about the right wing bias of the beeb: [url=][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and a couple of months later Farage wants an inquiry into the pro-left bias of the very same institute: [url=][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Who's right? Probably neither, as the beeb are run with the aim to provide balanced coverage. It doesn't work out perfectly for each individual programme, but on the whole it likely averages out to fair coverage. The idea that they're pro/anti one of the other is pure conjecture - cry baby tactics won't work for your man Nigel, I'm sorry but the truth is he showed himself up as a complete fool last night and that lies purely on his own shoulders, not the BBC.

As for Miliband and Balls, they're not the perfect duo for sure. This is an interesting article dispelling many of the myths draw up by the right-wing parties and press: [url=][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] For me, they're far greater than another five years of harsh, self serving Tory rule.

gasser9 wrote:

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

Agreed.

Les Miserable wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

Agreed.

Politicians and indeed people who enthuse about, and immerse themselves in politics, I find to be inherently self-serving and almost without exception, mind-numbingly dull.

Last nights debate reinforced my long standing view.

I didn't watch it as I find it as pointless as actually voting watching that shite. It's a clever dodge alright to make people think they actually some kind of influence over how the country is run, tune in, turn on, drop out. (and have a dip into the gravy train if you're lucky enough to be allowed, legally or illegally who gives a feck anyway?)

Hugh Watt wrote:

gasser9 wrote:

Paranoid conspiracy of the leftish Beeb?
You don't believe the Beeb is slightly left wing then.
Well young man you continue to live in that world of yours and I will live in mine.
I am exiled so cannot vote but would certainly quote UKIP if I could.
As far as I can see they want to limit immigration not ban it completely.
That's according to their manifesto which I took the trouble to read. It was clear it was concise something which the other parties would do well to follow.
After the absolute fiasco of the last Labour government I cannot see how anybody with half a brain could vote for them again. Milliband as PM and Balls as Chancellor what a joke!!

What 'fiasco' would that be then?

You win. I haven't got the time to answer that.
However if you have got the time please tell me what good the last labour government did for this country.

Another doozy of a conspiracy theory from the Kippers. If in doubt accuse the BBC of being biased in a convenient direction. Remember when the SNP accused Auntie of being right-wing pro-Union apologists?