Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:03 am
Scummy Ginster bastards and their scummy excuse of a pasty. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:49 pm
Anyone watching this Q and A on sky news/channel 4?
ed milliband got asked why is he so gloomy !!! lol
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:14 pm
Couldnt give a rats arse about any of the charade of modern day politics, hope they talk themselves hoarse, verbal flatulence of the highest order foreshore.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:24 pm
Kay Burley couldn't have been more bias towards her mate Cameron if she wore a vote tory shirt with a i love Cameron on her tits. How she hasn't been snapped up by Fox News due to her bias style of reporter is a shame.
Paxman was Paxman with both and both Cameron and milliband got roasting but i think Ed came out the better of the two
The Q and A was a sound bite affair with Kay burley shouting down Ed at every opportunity but allowing Cameron to talk uninterrupted.
overall i think Ed won this one but he still has lot of work if he is going to win over voters who dont see him as a PM.
Lord Tisdale
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:04 pm
Angry wrote:
Kay Burley couldn't have been more bias towards her mate Cameron if she wore a vote tory shirt with a i love Cameron on her tits. How she hasn't been snapped up by Fox News due to her bias style of reporter is a shame.
Paxman was Paxman with both and both Cameron and milliband got roasting but i think Ed came out the better of the two
The Q and A was a sound bite affair with Kay burley shouting down Ed at every opportunity but allowing Cameron to talk uninterrupted.
overall i think Ed won this one but he still has lot of work if he is going to win over voters who dont see him as a PM.
I wonder how many votes Ed would have garnered if he had turned around and said "why don't you fcuk off you dozy bitch and go and give Cameron a nosh".
He would have got me.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:27 pm
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:07 am
In big election news this morning a fox has just chased a duck up Downing Street trying to kill it.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:36 am
Iggy wrote:
In big election news this morning a fox has just chased a duck up Downing Street trying to kill it.
Tbf, that's about as interesting as any of the bollox we're going to have to listen to for the next two months.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:00 am
Cameron getting his arse handed to him on a plate by old people, lol. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:51 pm
Is there an app available for blocking pre-eletion shit on your phone, Tv, Radio? They'd be worth fooking millions and I would be first in-line to buy it.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:02 pm
Orkwood T Watt wrote:
Is there an app available for blocking pre-eletion shit on your phone, Tv, Radio? They'd be worth fooking millions and I would be first in-line to buy it.
Imagine how we folk, north of the border, felt with 18 months of the pre-independence referendum shit.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:14 pm
Another video mash-up.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:41 am
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:07 am
This is the first election in my lifetime (76 years) when I have not known who I would like to win or who I should vote for. Such an uninspiring bunch.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:24 am
The Torys are promising us so many things that for some reason they couldn't promise us in the previous five years......do they think we're all dimwits....of course they do.
Miliband couldn't inspire anything......the Labour party will pay for not getting rid of him and facing up to the unions.
Too early for UKIP to be able to sort out the nutters that have jumped on board......but a lot of us agree with some of their policies and can see no other way to vote.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:51 am
I just want to focus on this bit "facing up to the unions".
Why should they? And how could they ever "face up to the unions" enough to appease the right wing anyway? They couldn't but not only is it impossible but a nonsense too.
The Labour Party is, always has been and always will be the parliamentary arm of the wider trade union movement so if it ever did "face up to the unions" enough to appease those of the political right it would only be the Labour Party in name and not a party of the labour movement at all anymore. We could consider it to have been Chris Webbed.
I'm sure the right wingers would say "and a good thing too" but just think of the complete lack of balance that would exist then - it'd be even worse than it is now and does anybody really want a return to trade unionists like the Tolpuddle Martyrs being deported for union membership or any one of thousands of horrific working conditions (such as this one [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] to return? Freeing up industry/commerce etc so that it can thrive is one thing but it only ever leads one way for the workers: fewer hours; fewer "perks" (holiday pay, sickness pay and permanent contracts are all things we can thank the unions for); lower pay; ever worse H&S at work; shorter termed contcts; less security. Ultimately all of this is paid for by the fingers, limbs, health, blood and families of those in the workplace - and that is nearly all of us.
As far as I am aware nobody is forced to join a union, although admittedly anybody working in many workplaces would be mad not to, and once they do they need to consent to donating to the Labour party before it happens. It is an entirely open and transparent process. Compare and contrast that to the 100 or so big businesses that recently came out in support of the Tories: how much money had they donated to the Conservative Party by them, how many honours have been bestowed upon them by Cameron and how much consent has there been for the donations they have made? Where is the remit from either shareholder or customer for any of it? Why should some of the money I spend on a loaf of Kingsmill bread, or whatever, end up in Tory Party coffers? Everybody knows that Unison contributes to the Labour Party but how many knew Moonpig does the same to the Tories?
And why not demand that the Tory party "faces up" to the hedge funds and other City institutions, y'know the ones that really crashed the economy and caused the recession, that fund it, too?
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:10 am
Hear, hear ! Lest we forget, 'why' the Labour Party was born.
The Tories would take the nation back to this man's youth. His life is our history.
Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:45 am
zyph wrote:
Too early for UKIP to be able to sort out the nutters that have jumped on board......but a lot of us agree with some of their policies and can see no other way to vote.
Little known fact, the Green party actually support having a referendum on the EU.
UKIP and the Tories both claim to be concerned about protecting UK democratic sovereignty, but both support the EU TTIP deal which would allow private companies to sue if they believed a government policy damaged their profits. Thus UKIP and the Tories are quite happy to surrender influence on policy making to unelected corporations. They don't really care about UK democracy (see also UKIP MEP's claiming generous EU expenses, despite apparently being against the EU)! Thus if you want a party that might protect UK democracy,, you might want to vote Green!
Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:19 pm
Please don't forget that the Labour/Union partnership was blown out the water by Thatcher.....I know I was there during that time when my union membership wasn't worth the paper it was written on......and if I wanted a job in engineering I kept my Union membership to myself,because many a firm didn't want to know and became non-union firms.
Tony Blair moved the labour movement towards the centre ground and beat the Torys at their own game.....and now we have Miliband a union MP who got the job because of the lopsided voting in, of a new Labour leader........the Union movement has shrunk to nearly being unrecognizable to what went before in the 1960/70/80's.....yet this weakened movement chooses who will head the labour Party........how did we get into this mess.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:34 pm
The bosses and the unions are the yin and yang or positive and negative of work and jobs. Obviously both want the upper hand and a bigger share of the profits. The bosses have been given such a free reign over the last decade or two that the system is totally out of balance. Fat dividends being paid yet children going to school poorly dressed and hungry.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:36 pm
Iggy wrote:
The bosses and the unions are the yin and yang or positive and negative of work and jobs. Obviously both want the upper hand and a bigger share of the profits. The bosses have been given such a free reign over the last decade or two that the system is totally out of balance. Fat dividends being paid yet children going to school poorly dressed and hungry.
Also if the government fought for the workers as they do the bosses then there would be no need for unions all is needed is a sense of fairness. I think that all politicians should have to work for at least eighteen months at the minimum wage and on zero hours contracts.
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:49 pm
Would like to see a swing to the left. Nationalize the railways, water, electricity and gas.
Josh Pope
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:52 pm
When Farage stood on that stage he was 1 of 7, and the single member to be anti-EU. Every other leader was in some form a type of Pro-EU politician, though in different ways.
How long before UKIP die out? Soon, I hope. How long before they realise they're actually in a minority about the EU? When I speak to UKIP voters the only things they seem to mention are all our jobs being taken and us not making any of our own laws. Both are incorrect of course.
Anyway I would rather have neither of the main two parties as those of you who follow me on Twitter will know, but give me Conservatives over Labour amyday. ESPECIALLY lets try to acoid the SNP..
Czarcasm
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:26 pm
Josh Pope wrote:
When Farage stood on that stage he was 1 of 7, and the single member to be anti-EU. Every other leader was in some form a type of Pro-EU politician, though in different ways.
How long before UKIP die out? Soon, I hope. How long before they realise they're actually in a minority about the EU? When I speak to UKIP voters the only things they seem to mention are all our jobs being taken and us not making any of our own laws. Both are incorrect of course.
Anyway I would rather have neither of the main two parties as those of you who follow me on Twitter will know, but give me Conservatives over Labour amyday. ESPECIALLY lets try to acoid the SNP..
Roll on the 2020 G.E. when your views will actually matter. A tiny bit.
Charlie Wood
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Subject: Re: General Election Countdown who is going to win Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:54 pm
I wouldn't dismiss the youth so easily. My whole life I've watched lacklustre politicians of all hues offering bribes for votes in the very definition of short-termism leaving the generations yet to come to pick up the tab. Nobody has looked further than the 5 year window to the next election, God forbid that pattern is allowed to continue. I never thought I would say it but the last government has started to address the unpopular long term issues of pensions and welfare with a 50 year view and for that I give them great credit. Unfortunately to achieve anything a party needs to be in power and us older folk are benefiting disproportionately for one reason only...we turn up to vote(and there are more and more of us).
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