Nelson Mandela has died

I do think you make them up Tis, I think you generally talk a load of old tosh and are quite the bitter and envious type  and for that reason I seldom bother to respond to you and view you as a simple troll lacking in humour, but for now I will.

The actual rate is the age of 60, not bad considering that 10% of the population tested positive for HIV and over 200,000 will die because of this alone in 2013.

I do question why someone would willingly bend facts, be less than honest and leave out information that could distort reasoning, what's your reason Tis?

S Africa

Quote from The Economist.
13%of general pop have HIV
17% have HIV from 15-49

GOB wrote:

The actual rate is the age of 60, not bad considering that 10% of the population tested positive for HIV and over 200,000 will die because of this alone in 2013.

I'll ignore the slight, I know you really hang on my every post.

Yep, I blew that one, the figure came from the blog of some bitterish Boer that I came across, I guess I may have to reappraise the murder rate for white farmers as well, 310/100,000 was the figure given for that, maybe it will learn me not to accept FACTS without checking when they happen to fit a particular argument.

Still doesn't change the fact that Sarf is not a nice place and that Mandela, Mbeki, Motlanthe nor Zuma have made any attempt to do owt about it, they are endemically corrupt starting with Nelse and running on through to today. I shall look forward to the threads praising Mugabe, Adams, McGuiness, Obiang and Biya when they croak, assuming they all get the same PR firm in that Mandela used.

downthetrack wrote:

Quote from The Economist.
13%of general pop have HIV
17% have HIV from 15-49

It don't help when gay boys are not excluded from giving blood if they claim not to have knocked out a tune on the old pink oboe for six months, they all get paid when they give and the blood services pay bonuses based on quantity not quality.

The figures are definitely low balled and were not helped when Mandy's protege came out and stated lifestyle issues were not a contributory factor.

What Mandela and his gang have done to the South African people is a tragedy yet the world and ol' Gobby just want to suck his dick.

I'll say one thing, that Mandela bloke sure knew how to start an argument.

You seem remarkably keen to bring up all sorts of "facts" about the present South Africa. (As you and DTT seemed very keen to tell us the "Truth" about Muslims in previous threads). Most of them seem to be true or thereabouts. They are certainly awful. No disagreement there.

An important question - is the present situation worse than the previous one?

Whose dick would you prefer to suck on?

Me? I'd prefer to suck the dick, (as you so eloquently put it in your usual abusive style), of someone who made the world a better place. Not a perfect person nor a perfect place, in a far from perfect country, but a better one.

And, the internet being what it is, I have still to find anywhere where it says that Mandela played ANY part in writing this song.

GOB wrote:

I do think you make them up Tis, I think you generally talk a load of old tosh and are quite the bitter and envious type  and for that reason I seldom bother to respond to you and view you as a simple troll lacking in humour, but for now I will.

The actual rate is the age of 60, not bad considering that 10% of the population tested positive for HIV and over 200,000 will die because of this alone in 2013.

I do question why someone would willingly bend facts, be less than honest and leave out information that could distort reasoning, what's your reason Tis?  

Uh oh...  Hold the bus!!

"...willingly bend facts..."  


Well...  The CIA (and others) support Tiz.

http://www.indexmundi.com/south_africa/life_expectancy_at_birth.html

... and add 'WHO' to the support of GOB.

http://www.who.int/countries/zaf/en/


Ding Ding...

Ding dong   

Lesotho has a life expectancy of 42. Just thought I'd add that - they also drive on the left.

50% of women in Lesotho under 40 have HIV - Tis will tell you that it's because they're all gays.

yet they all keep making having sex and making baby's , who then are born with HIV ?

The key is education.Unfortunately the under developed world tend to listen to Witch Doctors & mad Mullahs

3 Aid workers killed in Pakistan this week,for what ? giving polio vaccinations

Lord tis thoughts on mandela are thought provoking thats forshore, i was in the mandela is a great bloke/hero camp, but is it really true or just what the leftwing/ liberal rulers of this country want us to believe? either way  top posts from tis! just keep the chimp off talking football bollocks!

The HIV thing is clearly a longstanding educational issue with it's roots in poverty and imbalance created by apartheid. Not helped by the message emanating from the Vatican, it has to be said, nor from those like Zuma who have failed to do much but exacerbate the problem. Mandela's fault? Prob not.

Sufferedsince68 wrote:

Lord tis thoughts on mandela are thought provoking thats forshore, i was in the mandela is a great bloke/hero camp, but is it really true or just what the leftwing/ liberal rulers of this country want us to believe? either way  top posts from tis! just keep the chimp off talking football bollocks!

This county has left wing rulers yeah?

That'll be why the gap between rich and poor is so astronomically large, why we're selling off public assets like there's no tomorrow and why people are having to visit food banks left right and centre? When we're run by a load of Eton/Oxford posh boys who give themselves pay rises and tax cuts. That'll be why we live in a system of unregulated free market capitalism that benefits only the wealthy, powerful elite?

That's really a system of left-wing rulers suffered?

Rickler wrote:

Uh oh...  Hold the bus!!

"...willingly bend facts..."  


Well...  The CIA (and others) support Tiz.

http://www.indexmundi.com/south_africa/life_expectancy_at_birth.html

... and  add 'WHO' to the support of GOB.

http://www.who.int/countries/zaf/en/


Ding Ding...

Ah, the Rick hits the nail on the left bollock, the figures I quoted related to a projection of the anticipated age expectancy for a bab born into the idyll of a post Saint Nelson Sarf, GOB's figure of course being the current expectation of those who had the benefit Mandela being being locked up.

For the benefit of Knecht and Hairy who just don't seem to get it despite me encoding it in Braille and stapling it to their favourite rectal plug, Mandela was also a wife beating, womanising rapist, three of the major contributory cultural factors which have led to the rapid spread of AIDS.

Mandela is yer typical poster boy of the political leader obsessed media whoreage and the saps suck it up every time, thousands of great men who do a fantastic job working all their lives, looking after their families and generally being good eggs die every day, mandela though is a "GREAT MAN" because he battered the living feck out of his Missus, shagged every bird that came within 50 feet of him, hardly spoke to any of his many kids, murdered, stole and connived his way to political office and then failed to achieve anything for the people who followed the Knecht, Hairy knob sucking mode and elected the fraud.

The naivety displayed by some of those purporting themselves to be 'educated' on here is stunning, actually no it's not, it is pretty much par for the course

GreenSam wrote:

Sufferedsince68 wrote:

Lord tis thoughts on mandela are thought provoking thats forshore, i was in the mandela is a great bloke/hero camp, but is it really true or just what the leftwing/ liberal rulers of this country want us to believe? either way  top posts from tis! just keep the chimp off talking football bollocks!

This county has left wing rulers yeah?

That'll be why the gap between rich and poor is so astronomically large, why we're selling off public assets like there's no tomorrow and why people are having to visit food banks left right and centre? When we're run by a load of Eton/Oxford posh boys who give themselves pay rises and tax cuts. That'll be why we live in a system of unregulated free market capitalism that benefits only the wealthy, powerful elite?

That's really a system of left-wing rulers suffered?

God what a div.

The only time you will find a bigger disparity in wealth between the 'elite' and the 'plebs' would be under Communism.

We have a massiviely Lefty bias in this country exacerbated by fools like Sam who think that Camoron and Ozzy run the country, they are just the political front men who suck the populist dick while their friends rape and pillage the futures of all our kids. How anyone could describe people who spend billions on supporting indolents who were either born here or hopped on the first available flight as right wing totally escapes me.

You are so Naive it is actually causing me physical pain.

Although I don't share ALL your views Tis I share your pain.

hairy j wrote:

Lesotho has a life expectancy of 42. Just thought I'd add that - they also drive on the left.

50% of women in Lesotho under 40 have HIV - Tis will tell you that it's because they're all gays.

You dopey feck, of course Lesotho is worse, it is just the South African equivalent of Plymouth.

Good mood I see your in Lord?

downthetrack wrote:

Good mood I see your in Lord?

Been working like a dog all weekend Tracky then woke up this morning with a heinous cold, headache, the weathers crap, we have took a dicking in Oz and that bastard McClaren keeps bringing home the bacon with the scum sitting fourth. Actually no, that last bit is your prob.

My mood hasn't been improved by all the Scousers re-emerging from under their rocks while a couple of mates who have ST's at the Manchester Municipal Stadium are bemoaning the draw which gives them a double header with Barca, fecking moaning about a trip to Bareclona?

Nurse, Tis's medication is long overdue.

[quote="Lord Tisdale"]

downthetrack wrote:

Good mood I see your in Lord?

McClaren keeps bringing home the bacon with the scum sitting fourth. Actually no, that last bit is your prob.

Mutton molesting bastards

knecht wrote:

Nurse, Tis's medication is long overdue.

Taken, lamba sammidge with a nice latte, headache's gone, mood rapidly improving, big game tomorrow night to look forward to, Dulwich vs Maidstone, all good.

talk about a pr companies dream. A film premier in Johannesburg of a film about Mandela (no doubt he was given the william wallace treatment ie havily edited) on the day he passed away.

Lord Tisdale wrote:

hairy j wrote:

Lesotho has a life expectancy of 42. Just thought I'd add that - they also drive on the left.

50% of women in Lesotho under 40 have HIV - Tis will tell you that it's because they're all gays.

You dopey feck, of course Lesotho is worse, it is just the South African equivalent of Plymouth.

Trolled again. Tis too easy.