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Highwayman

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Here you go GG, formed in April. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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Companies with the same address

AKKERON GROUP LLP
SURREY, TW10 6RP
akkeron-group-llp

OLDWAY MANSION LIMITED
Development of building projects
SURREY, TW10 6RP
oldway-mansion

AKKERON HOTELS (NORTHERN) LIMITED
Hotels and similar accommodation
SURREY, TW10 6RP
akkeron-hotels-(northern)

NATATOMISAM LIMITED
Activities of open-ended investment companies
SURREY, TW10 6RP
natatomisam

AKKERON LEISURE LIMITED
Other business support service activities not elsewhere classified
UNITED KINGDOM, TW10 6RP
akkeron-leisure

PLYMOUTH ARGYLE FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED
Activities of sport clubs
UNITED KINGDOM, TW10 6RP
plymouth-argyle-football-club

FIVE DIRECTIONS LIMITED
Development of building projects, Other amusement and recreation activities not elsewhere classified
UNITED KINGDOM, TW10 6RP
five-directions

HHP NOMINEE LIMITED
UNITED KINGDOM, TW10 6RP
hhp-nominee

RESURGAM (WEST END) LIMITED
UNITED KINGDOM, TW10 6RP
resurgam-(west-end)


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So how much farming does Farmer James actually do?

I've never seen the subject brought up by him or anyone else, ever?
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I have read about it Rickler, JB was I think put in charge of buying farmland when he was with Citibank, they were talking about thousands of hectares as an investment, JB has also got an arm of Akkeron doing the same thing, they hold about 1500 hectares of land if my memory is right (which isn't always).
A neighbouring landowner where I live is also a failed banker who was sacked by RBS, he already owns a manor house and in the last two years has bought numerous farms along the Tamar Valley to add to his pile, getting all his money out of the banks and into land, we are seeing estates put together, by all the people who have stripped the country to its bones, on a scale not seen since the industrial revolution. If only we had a Labout government in power I am sure they would sort it out. Pmsl.
The subsidy to be paid  for farmland in 2013 is £49 bn, good work if you can get it.
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I mention it some time ago, most of his farms is abroad
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Thanks Iggy and TGWU,

This page says that Brent was "head of real estate and lodging at Citibank" which I suppose would include farming as it is 'real estate' although I suspect 'farming' wasn't in any way the focus?

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So where abroad are these "farms"?  Or is it land bought waiting for 'developement'?

...and talking of development, if it does go ahead at HP, I hope it proceeds faster than the Akkerongroup website which has been at the same stage of arrested development since JB talk over at Argyle.
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Has anyone posted the PAFC accounts on here yet? I have them in an e-mail but don't know how to save the documents so I can post them on here. Bit Fick like that I am.
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think the farms abroad are in spain.
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Group is a new global farming and asset management business which brings professional land management and farming practices to agriculture around the world.

More efficient. More ethical. More sustainable.

We will farm efficiently and in scale to the benefit of all our stakeholders.

Our website is currently under development.

Akkeron Group LLP: +44 (0) 207 647 6670

Akkeron Hotels Limited: +44 (0) 844 855 9100

Akkeron Farming SRL: +00 (4) 023 322 0004
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look like a right bunch of corporate cnuts, cant imagine them paying farmhands in cider
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Group is a new global farming and asset management business which brings professional land management and farming practices to agriculture around the world.

More efficient. More ethical. More sustainable.

We will farm efficiently and in scale to the benefit of all our stakeholders.

Our website is currently under development.

Akkeron Group LLP: +44 (0) 207 647 6670

Akkeron Hotels Limited: +44 (0) 844 855 9100

Akkeron Farming SRL: +00 (4) 023 322 0004

 these 3 do not mix, to be one you cant be the other two. wankstain.
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A little e-mail I sent Mrs Seabeck after reading a thread by Mike Greening

Dear Alison

I am very disappointed with your view on the development in Higher Home Park, I have read your view on a bully web site, which is asking for constituent to write to you so you can put your pro view in to the mix.

Quote Mike Greening

I emailed all our local MPs and have had replies from all of them. The last one I emailed was Alison Seabeck She is personally supportive of the proposal but because of strict parliamentary rules can only write on behalf of her own constituents. She has asked if we know of anyone living in her constituency who would be willing to write to her on this matter. Quote [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

As you only been in Plymouth for a few years you will not know the deep feeling with have for Central Park. Not only have we have outsiders as our Mps who now knows best in how to spoil our park.

I am a 65-year-old season ticket holder of Argyle and would like the best for them, but this development will only benefit Mr Brent.

I was a strong labour and trade unionist supporter but with the like of outsides putting money before the people of Plymouth it will be a long time before I think of voting for Labour again.

As you know the east of the city badly needs development and what better place to put most of what Mr Brent HHP plans that should be built in the City Centre.

I will  E-mail a copy of this to The Friends Of Central Park and to The web site [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] with any reply I receive from your office.
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I feel the cracks are really starting to grow in these plans, they can only get bigger as these Evil intentions are exposed for what they are.
Relax, enjoy and applaud as the whole stinking thing comes crashing  down cheers 
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punchdrunk wrote:
I feel the cracks are really starting to grow in these plans, they can only get bigger as these Evil intentions are exposed for what they are.
Relax, enjoy and applaud as the whole stinking thing comes crashing  down cheers 

Evil, punchy, really? Evil? Evil is thinks like the holocaust, building a stand thats a bit on the small side is not evil. Ots a bit crap, its a huge let down, but its not evil. Dont be a dick.
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Womble wrote:
punchdrunk wrote:
I feel the cracks are really starting to grow in these plans, they can only get bigger as these Evil intentions are exposed for what they are.
Relax, enjoy and applaud as the whole stinking thing comes crashing  down cheers 

Evil, punchy, really?  Evil?  Evil is thinks like the holocaust, building a stand thats a bit on the small side is not evil.  Ots a bit crap, its a huge let down, but its not evil.  Dont be a dick.

It's not just that though. It's the school and the dentist. It's the cinema which doesn't belong in a park. It's the shite ice hockey arena and the retail units. None of tht will make money for the club.
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Hugh Watt wrote:
Womble wrote:
punchdrunk wrote:
I feel the cracks are really starting to grow in these plans, they can only get bigger as these Evil intentions are exposed for what they are.
Relax, enjoy and applaud as the whole stinking thing comes crashing  down cheers 

Evil, punchy, really?  Evil?  Evil is thinks like the holocaust, building a stand thats a bit on the small side is not evil.  Ots a bit crap, its a huge let down, but its not evil.  Dont be a dick.

It's not just that though. It's the school and the dentist. It's the cinema which doesn't belong in a park. It's the shite ice hockey arena and the retail units. None of tht will make money for the club.

 Like i said just sit back and watch while the whole thing falls to bits, while Nool and Webb go scurrying back out of their limelights.
I will laugh my tits off
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Reply from Ms Seabeck MP


Indeed. If a constituent wrote opposing I would also make sure their views were fully considered. However my personal view is that this is a good scheme.

I regret that with planning decisions it is impossible to please all sides of the debate. sitting on the fence is not the best option either.

I have no direct say in the planning process because it is independent and a council decision.

Sorry we have to disagree. If you are my constituent and you want me to ensure your opposition is included in the consideration then do let me know. You are of course able to do this direct and all the information will be available from the Council.

Alison Seabeck MP

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shes basically saying 'do it yourself' , so what do they do for their allowance, these so called representatives of their constiuency?
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Falls in the realms of being too difficult to deal with and she evidently would rather not be ar*ed. Shame on Ms Seabeck - I've met her, liked her and rather thought she was made of different stuff.
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mannameadbabe wrote:
Falls in the realms of being too difficult to deal with and she evidently would rather not be ar*ed.  Shame on Ms Seabeck - I've met her, liked her and rather thought she was made of different stuff.

She's obviously had the quivering lip stare - all seem to fall for the hypnotic charms of the boss!!
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Waste of time asking your MP for help. New labour/tory/libdem Politicians and rich banker scum are two cheeks of the same capitalist arse.
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Ms Seabeck MP...can see the benefits.......a few thousand seats either way make no difference to her.....unless they were seats in an election of course.
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Interesting Plymouth Tree Partnerships follow up letter asking for the planning decision to be postponed until tree loss and drainage issues are resolved in line with EA request on page 9 amongst the support letters generated by PAFC email shot.

PCC Letters

Notice someone upholds their objection and complains that PAFC are blackmailing their supporters.
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Mapperley, darling wrote:
shes basically saying 'do it yourself' , so what do they do for their allowance, these so called representatives of their constiuency?

Maybe more people in favour of the build have contacted her than those who are against it.

What then?

That is the beauty of democracy - vote for someone else at the next election.
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RWW wrote:
Mapperley, darling wrote:
shes basically saying 'do it yourself' , so what do they do for their allowance, these so called representatives of their constiuency?

Maybe more people in favour of the build have contacted her than those who are against it.

What then?

That is the beauty of democracy - vote for someone else at the next election.


If she goes with one side or the other then she will get shot down and probably accused of trying to curry favour with her constituents. If she goes with her own views she will be accused of being unresponsive to her electorate. As you say, the next election would be the time she would discover if she was right.

I personally can't see a lot in favour of the proposals. And I certainly can't see anything in them to back up any claim that would bring employment (other than short-term building). Neither do I see any justification for what they would do to Central Park that couldn't be eased by putting some of it elsewhere in the city - like dentist, studio school & cinema.

But then we are re-hashing arguments about the proposals.......
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