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on consideration you are all a bunch of w@nkers and you don't speak for me.  so I am forthwithing my request for membership (although I'd still quite like my polo shirt)
Do you want your tenner back too?
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It cracks me up to watch the Greenmen/DeepThroaters/WindsorBoys go into overdrive to protect their leader AGAIN. How many times has he been caught out now, either being a thug, a bully or involved in other such internet scandals. Its ALWAYS him........has the penny not dropped yet that the "man" is rotten to the core and is dragging everyone down with him?

Or is everything ATDs fault?

This X 1000. Just when will the blind see this POS for the horrible fucker he is?
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Hes fooling nobody now, all his supporters are sad twats that need a leader to follow, all bullies have them.
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what happened to not mentioning people on Patwati that didn't have twatoti accounts. Thought that was an offence, oh unless your on the owners side. Why are these women mentioned as being from the AFT as opposed to porkus who is there as an argyle fan not a senior green/GT/boardroom regular/advisor to JV/Chaufeer etc/ Is stonehouse mike a multi for de liar?

fuked off I am
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PostSubject: Re: Do not forget   Do not forget - Page 7 EmptyWed Jun 12, 2013 3:31 pm

Great point made by the Doc. This would take someone with vision tho' not after a buck or two.
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Strange that two leading lights on this steering group are hellbent on shoehorning an oversized leisure development onto HHP when the West End of City Centre with boarded up shops (unlikely to reopen) including Woolworths, TJ Hughes and Derry's is crying out for an anchor development.

This is the same Plymouth 2020 Vision that David Mackay had in 2003. You can still read the original truly inspiring documents which have become so watered down from

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Really good point here (re. the West End).

I can completely see the logic of putting a sports arena next to Home Park (for ice skating, ice hockey and basketball) and then for having some limited additional development to provide some eating places. That produces a really good sports leisure complex (Home Park, Arena, Life Centre, open space in the park) and naturally enhances facilities that are already in place.

I can also completely see the logic of rebuilding the Pavillions as a proper (larger) arena for music etc. - something on the scale of the Cardiff Arena which would then be suitable for 'arena tours'. This adds to the presence of the Theatre Royal in that area too, building the area as an theatre, performance and media arts leisure complex. This would be supported by restaurants etc. in the West End of the city thereby giving that area an identity that differentiates it from other parts of the city centre and which can the energise further developments. It would then make huge sense to put a new cinema complex in the West End - I guess the problem here is that James Brent (the one who is taking this forward) doesn't own the land/buildings in the west end necessary to make this happen and can only work with what he has access to but it would make more sense to me to define the vision better and take steps to enable it to be taken forward rather than shoe-horn things into the 'wrong' places. Also, sadly, the current plans for renovation of the Pavilions are not ambitious enough as far as capacity is concerned (where have I heard that before?).

We would then have the waterfront as the marine leisure complex, the east end as the retail leisure complex, the west end as the theatre, performance and media arts leisure complex and Higher Home Park as the sports leisure complex. In my view that would properly position Plymouth as the regional centre and, for example, as somewhere really worthy of the title of City of Culture.

I fully accept that not everyone will agree with this vision for Plymouth but at least it is a vision...
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PostSubject: Re: Do not forget   Do not forget - Page 7 EmptyWed Jun 12, 2013 3:38 pm

Why did nool need to go to a friends of central park meeting with a load of goons? not scared of getting a good kicking from betty and doris was he? the guy is a sad joke thats making the club look truly yokel.
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PostSubject: Re: Do not forget   Do not forget - Page 7 EmptyWed Jun 12, 2013 3:40 pm

So what did Newell Tweet before he removed his bile?
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What I cannot under stand is last night a high flying business man with a few handles to his name who spends his time phoning or tweeting did not missed his phone when he was removed from the meeting for at lease half an hour, suspicious 
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What I cannot under stand is last night a high flying business man with a few handles to his name who spends his time phoning or tweeting did not missed his phone when he was removed from the meeting for at lease half an hour, suspicious 
Maybe it's the cynic in me but I thought the very same thing. Oh how the Pig would love to have squealed that the nasty FOCPers had stolen his phone.
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mouldyoldgoat wrote:
Pokesdown wrote:
On a totally unrelated note the email address that I used on Pasoti was hacked last night and some very nice shopping and porn offers sent to the contacts.







Welcome to the club. Wait till you start getting credit firms calling you about managing your money. 6 calls yesterday and all told to feck off!


for the last month ive been getting messages from an airline and dhl saying ive got packages/tickets to collect! 
i dont open the messages but would this also be some kind of hacking attempt?

As Mouldy says, welcome to the club!

My hotmail account has been permanently blocked as it was used for spamming of porn and shopping aswell as sending a virus.

I contacted hotmail and they referred the matter to their investigation team but never heard anymore.

It didn't bother me much as I only used that email address for internet things so they caused me no inconvenience atall.

Just shows what a sad bunch of fucktards they are to go to the trouble of doing it!
for the last month ive been receiving messages from airlines/DHL regarding tickets/packages to collect !
i never open the messages,but would this be an attempt to mess about with my Hotmail?
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Dunlop's mouthing off as usual about this place, yet is quite happy to associate with low-lifes like Newell who went last night with the sole aim of disrupting the meeting.

It's now Sally Snow and Linda Jenkin's fault that the comments were made and they didn't jump in as AFT representatives and give the AFT view on the development?

These people are mentally ill. There's now a clamour to put the boot into the AFT on Pasoti, because of something that never happened. Postey, Leigh Rapson and Lee Jameson have to join in as usual which is understandable as they are just the biggest bunch of ass-lickers I've ever come across, Jameson with his the Trust should make a statement giving their views, when they've just released a bloody statement and Postey in his own inimitably weasley way jumping in to knife the AFT in the back.

How the average Pasoti poster can stand to read their bollocks is beyond me. It's as if they believe Newell's threat that Brent will walk away if they don't pander to him.

The development is not wanted by more than a handful of people who are all close mates of James Brent. The majority of Argyle fans want a Grandstand at least on a par with the rest of the development, and being selfish they probably want better than on a par with the rest of the development, but nobody should be railroaded by Pasoti's bent hierarchy into accepting shit because it's better than nothing.

The fallout over this development will last for years. There are the select band of fans rewarded by Brent who will hear nothing bad about Brent or the crap stand he is trying to impose on the club and in months or years to come they are going to have to explain their unflinching support of something so obviously sub-standard when they purport to love Argyle.

These people make me sick. They are nothing but snidey cowards who have carried out a campaign of undermining the AFT for over a year now and shit sticks. The wedge they have driven between the fanbase has affected support for the AFT even though they have actually been the victims all along.

I actually can't wait for Brent to pocket his fortune and feck off now. If he hands the club over to these tossers then we're fecked and I want nothing to do with Argyle anymore. Almost 30 years of support thrown away because of cnuts like Webb, Newell and of course, Mr Ocean City Peter Jones.

If Brent fucks off and the club go into admin again these back-stabbing assholes will be furiously claiming they only sided with Brent to keep the club afloat, much as they said about Ridsdale, but hopefully the fans who know what a devious gang of cnuts they were will tell them to feck Off and buy a United shirt.

The FOCP sound totally unprepared for what is going to be thrown at them. Wankers like Lee Jameson having a pop because their website hasn't been updated for months yet he was a member of the PASB? Hypocritical tosser.

Pricks on twatter nowsaying what a bunch of wankers the volunteers on the AFT are, because of claims made by Brent's mate Newell. You really couldn't feckin make it up.

I'm still interested in the relationship between James Brent and some of the PCC, and how long they have been "friendly" .Long enough to be offering large contracts elsewhere in the city if he bought the club?

If it can be proved that these incentives were promised to James Brent before the takeover and contrary to the usual tendering for contracts then the whole pack of cards might come crashing down. It will also cast a doubt on the actions of certain high profile fans when they were jumping into bed with Brent and a cynical person might think that these few lucky fans have some ulterior motive for supporting a bunch of plans that a one-eyed blind man with cataracts can see don't have the best interests of the club at heart, in fact will hamper any possible future expansion to match sides like Bristol Rovers ffs.

Yes James Brent bought the club at its lowest ebb but how long do we need to suck his dick out of gratitude? The signing of the guy from Morecambe and the trial pre-season for Warren Feeney should tell fans how much ambition James Brent has for Argyle on the pitch. If only it matched his ambitions off the pitch.
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shonbo wrote:
Great point made by the Doc. This would take someone with vision tho' not after a buck or two.
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Strange that two leading lights on this steering group are hellbent on shoehorning an oversized leisure development onto HHP when the West End of City Centre with boarded up shops (unlikely to reopen) including Woolworths, TJ Hughes and Derry's is crying out for an anchor development.

This is the same Plymouth 2020 Vision that David Mackay had in 2003. You can still read the original truly inspiring documents which have become so watered down from

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Really good point here (re. the West End).


I can completely see the logic of putting a sports arena next to Home Park (for ice skating, ice hockey and basketball) and then for having some limited additional development to provide some eating places. That produces a really good sports leisure complex (Home Park, Arena, Life Centre, open space in the park) and naturally enhances facilities that are already in place.

I can also completely see the logic of rebuilding the Pavillions as a proper (larger) arena for music etc. - something on the scale of the Cardiff Arena which would then be suitable for 'arena tours'. This adds to the presence of the Theatre Royal in that area too, building the area as an theatre, performance and media arts leisure complex. This would be supported by restaurants etc. in the West End of the city thereby giving that area an identity that differentiates it from other parts of the city centre and which can the energise further developments. It would then make huge sense to put a new cinema complex in the West End - I guess the problem here is that James Brent (the one who is taking this forward) doesn't own the land/buildings in the west end necessary to make this happen and can only work with what he has access to but it would make more sense to me to define the vision better and take steps to enable it to be taken forward rather than shoe-horn things into the 'wrong' places. Also, sadly, the current plans for renovation of the Pavilions are not ambitious enough as far as capacity is concerned (where have I heard that before?).

We would then have the waterfront as the marine leisure complex, the east end as the retail leisure complex, the west end as the theatre, performance and media arts leisure complex and Higher Home Park as the sports leisure complex. In my view that would properly position Plymouth as the regional centre and, for example, as somewhere really worthy of the title of City of Culture.

I fully accept that not everyone will agree with this vision for Plymouth but at least it is a vision...
...and a vision not shared by property developers.The Woolworths building,the TJ Hughes building and indeed the grand building that was Derry's are all owned by private landlords.Property developers do not want to develop on somebody else's land,never will do.Why develop a site and then pay rent.Its a big No No.Its up to the individual landlords to develop their own sites,but they wont.Those buildings will remain empty for years and years and years.We are an ocean city only in as much as the city is awash with vacant buildings.
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Newell's comments last night have really caused trouble for the trust.

I hope they take the right action.
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I really really really hope brent's proposal is thrown out.  It's so obviously flawed that it should quite rightly be laughed out of the planning office. With no development there will be no brent or his appalling entourage.  What a great day that will be.
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the development is happening come what may at the end of the day.
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Freathy wrote:
I really really really hope brent's proposal is thrown out.  It's so obviously flawed that it should quite rightly be laughed out of the planning office. With no development there will be no brent or his appalling entourage.  What a great day that will be.
Sadly though, an unfortunate byproduct of Nikkk throwing money at Argyle will be Newell hanging on to his coat-tails to continue feeding at the trough - Brent or no Brent.
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I wouldn't expect the Herald to be able to report the next day on an event that finished at 9pm...not because a morning paper shouldn't be able to do this but because they're shite.

Given the whole day they've had to translate their crayon to print it will be interesting to see what they make of the event, if it is reported. The benefit of the whole day is that they would have had the opportunity to run copy past Peter Jones and Brent. Can't be off message can they.
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Newell's comments last night have really caused trouble for the trust.

I hope they take the right action.

Of course it has.

Dickheads like Leigh Rapson saying that the AFT aren't denying they are working with FOCP to oppose the plans is just blatant trouble-making and he knows it.

The AFT were publicly blamed by Ian Newell of joining forces with FOCP to stop the development when it all stems from part of a newspaper interview where Andy Symons said the AFT would work with the FOCP.

Work with them, to see what their views are, something Mr arrogant Brent should've been doing from the start instead of ploughing on taking Ian ass-licker Newells word as gospel.

The bullshit and bullying on Pasoti is bloody criminal. Sally and Linda being attacked without having the chance to defend themselves is disgusting and totally against the Pasoti agreement, which only applies when it suits them.

You have that deluded tw@t X-isle jumping on the bandwagon and threatening to cancel his aft membership, no great loss but still, Jon Back retweeting Newells bullshit last night, Hooper gleefully stabbing anyone associated with the AFT in the back and even though it turns out that Newell wasmistaken it's too late, the damage is done.

Dunlop who's another fucktard now says nobody from Pasoti was thrown out even though Newell admits they were, and strangely a couple of brand new Pasoti accounts are joining in the AFT bashing.

It's pitiful but oh so expected and yet only a handful of decent fans have the balls to tell it like it is in fear of suddenly not being able to access their Pasoti account like us no doubt.

If I were the trust board I would write to James Brent and inform him that they were washing their hands of Argyle while cnuts like Newell and Webb were treating fans the way they do. Buy a city or Torquay season ticket and watch them instead, join their trusts and forget about this heap of shit forever.

People who claim to be friends of Andy's, John Petrie's, Sally Snow's and Linda Jenkins standing by while their friends are attacked for volunteering God knows howmany hours of their life to help the club, all because of one man's hatred of Andy Symons.

You pathetic cnuts. You should all delete these good peoples details from your phones, from Facebook, Twitter or wherever if you can't stick up for them when they're being routinely attacked on behalf of James Brent.

I'll never put another penny into the clubs coffers while these devious bastards are involved and quite frankly the only thing that will affect James Brent is if lots more people who had any morals at all did the same. Instead of being selfish and not wanting to miss a game, show some fuckin backbone and stand shoulder to shoulder with your so-called mates.


Andy I know you don't want to give these tossers the satisfaction of winning I would honestly forget Argyle. The club should be grateful for volunteers like you mucking in but it isn't. James Brent has acted like a complete wanker towards you, as has Peter Jones, Chris Webb, Ian Newell and others, well feck them mate, spend time with George and let the club lose generations of support. It is no more than it deserves.

Odious fuckers like Hooper and Jameson backstabbing fellow fans, decent people like Peggy being shat on from a great height, that's what Argyle has become, somewhere that spineless cnuts like Wozzer, Postey, Jameson, Newell and even the club president Chris Webb can snipe away under anonymity at people who are sticking their head above the parapet and trying to do something for the club, for free!

Leave the twats to it. Do something better with your money on Saturdays, meet up for drinks and do something else but stop swelling the coffers of people who don't want what's best for the club.

Argyle under James Brent has been a feckin amateurish disaster. The club won't go anywhere under him and we all know it, so vote with your feet. Go to away games if you still want your fix but stop giving your money to someone who so obviously couldn't give a feck about the fans, except for his mates the superfans of course.

The club stinks of corruption and will do for as long as the reluctant bidder is in charge. He knows full well what's gone on over the last 18 months and must either be asking for it to be done or he condones it, either way that makes him a cnut in my book and not someone that decent people should be wasting their money on.

I so wish that I could round up a dozen or so people tonight and pay them back for the crap they have dished out to people who don't deserve it one bit. Oh how I would love to be face to face with Postey and ask him nicely whether it was him making the threats or if he wanted to name the other people involved in Greenman. The supercillious cowardly wanker wouldn't be quite so condescending and arrogant then. Then once he'd either admitted making the threats or named which other cowards had made threats to my family I could have a friendly word in their ears too. Just the thought of that makes me very happy and I know I will bump into the creep soon and have the opportunity to ask him nicely while the aroma of fresh shit wafts up from his trousers
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Sums it up for me too Jock.

Sadly the good people won't stand up and fight for themselves for fear of repercussion's.  All that's left is the freaks and weirdo's to fight the fight and try and make the difference.

I don't give a shit what Newell and his bunch of wankers throw at me anymore I really don't.  Bring it on I say because you won't stop me fighting and exposing you for the bullying scum you are.

There is nothing you can do to me to silence me.  I won't be stepping foot inside Home Park again so long as Brent, Jones and the rest of the vermin are hanging around so there's nothing to lose for me.

This pile of wank against the trust is the final straw for me.
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Great post jock, we wont be intimated by tossers inc, i loath every thing about the bully boy clique that the property speculator has allowed to flourish, at the risk of repeating myself BRENT OUT.
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Great post jock, we wont be intimated by tossers inc, i loath every thing about the bully boy clique that the property speculator has allowed to flourish, at the risk of repeating myself BRENT OUT.

Brent out, Webb out, Jones out, PASB out, Forza Verde out NEWELL OUT.
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IJN on Pasoti wrote:
I just rang Jason, the Landlord, to make sure nothing happened when we left.

As I thought, no one was ejected, and he laughed at the suggestion.

I thought as much, as when I saw him collecting glasses, he asked me whether I was looking forward to the new season.

Strange, someone is obviously telling more lies.

Possibly the same cretin that accused me being a Bernt Director.

Nowt so queer as folk.

So is this yet more lies from Newell?
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IJN on Pasoti wrote:
I just rang Jason, the Landlord, to make sure nothing happened when we left.

As I thought, no one was ejected, and he laughed at the suggestion.

I thought as much, as when I saw him collecting glasses, he asked me whether I was looking forward to the new season.

Strange, someone is obviously telling more lies.

Newell's first post on the subject last night, he says "we were asked to leave"

The man's a compulsive liar and a feckin basket case.

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Possibly the same cretin that accused me being a Bernt Director.

Nowt so queer as folk.

So is this yet more lies from Newell?
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The sad thing is it wont be just a boycott, it will be a permanent withdrawal of support for PAFC..what is the point of supporting a club doomed to an eternity of lower league football, it beggars belief that people are actually thinking this development can be good for the club.
Its a real shame, i certainly wont be setting foot in HP if this aberration gets the nod of approval, totally disenfranchised with the Corruption that is rife within the club, and how just how has a knuckledragger like Ian Newell been allowed to attain a position like he has done, like some half arsed Dictator telling the plebs what and what not to think.
Ive said it many times before years ago and i say it again now, this club is rotten to the core.
Whats the point anymore, feck knows i might even go to St James Park for my fix, at least its a level playing field
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We have posted a response on Pasoti:

Without nesting a whole heap of quotes from this thread, here are the FACTS:

- There were no AFT Board members present at tonights meeting.
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The AFT has never, and will never work with FoCP to oppose the development
- Anyone saying otherwise is lying.
- The AFT has consistently supported plans to replace the old Grandstand
-Comments made on Twitter tonight are without foundation. Some even suggested that it was AFT Chair, Andy Symons, who had made these comments. At the time these comments were alleged to have been made, Andy was in his office, 40 miles away in Exeter.
- Having been made aware of the comments and actions attributed, falsely, to him, Andy has emailed James Brent tonight to correct the falsehoods that have been reported. He will also be consulting his solicitor in the morning, as he feels that some of the things said about him tonight may be considered libellous.
-In light of this, it may be wise for the Pasoti mods to consider how they deal with this discussion.


Sad to see this as TFOCP have never stated and are not campaigning to oppose the development, just certain aspects of the project. I also feel  that the AFT are not really thinking of the fans if they are for this development
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