Redundancies at Argyle?

I've HAD to post a reply on Pasoti about this disgrace. Mitt Brent ( did you see what I did there -Romney) ) " I like sacking people " is a businessman, THIS is what they do when a business is doing badly, it's HIS decisions that have caused this mess, 8,000 crowd budget, excuse me ?! Selecting a 'Manager and staff' that are NOT up to their job description. No words from that Union man of course, was he consulted, you bet he wasn't , red faced President hiding somewhere.

As for you Leigh,( mrRapson) , I'm surprised at you supporting someone laying off staff so close to Christmas, are YOU a businessman Leigh, I believe you are, is it easy telling wives, partners, children that their breadwinners are OUT, this is why I would NOT make it in business, I'm not a hard bastard , so much is wrong with Argyle but sacking the non playing staff is surely NOT a way forward. It creates bad feeling, bitterness, lies and discontent.

Needless to say I will NOT be at Home Park tomorrow night !

Penzance wrote:

I see Hooperman wants the PASB to ask the Board what's going down
Should be about as effective as a Q and A session with Toddy on the Farm.

The first questions to be asked should be - How seriously is the club taking the GASBoard? Wasn't the idea that the GASBoard scrutinise decisions such as redundancies and corporate restructuring on behalf of the fans - how can this be done if the club is going to take decisions like this without any reference to the GASBoard at all?

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250 employees apparently.

Shocking news, get this moron out of our club now Mr Brent, it will only get worse

Pafcintheplace wrote:

JB said recently that Argyle are in 'fine fettle' financially going forward or words to that effect.

I suspect this is restructure and efficiency motivated, not because there's cash shortages. 
Speaking from a business point of view, it's a good opportunity to get rid of some poorly performing staff.

If any of that turns out to be the case, I foresee some claims for unfair selection being lodged. And I (a lifelong trade unionist and former full time official who hasn't lost any of her principles*) would be more than happy to advise them.

I was made redundant at Christmas in 2010. In my case, though, I knew it was coming for a couple of months beforehand, and I got a decent payout - and neither of those things made it any easier. Not to mention the job situation in Plymouth, which is dire. My heart goes out to all the staff.

(*and of course educated wanker - which could come in handy here)

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

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250 employees apparently.

Love to see how they get that figure. Of course the higher the number the club say the less the impact of letting 10 go.

No banter from me here. Feel sorry for those being laid off. Brent should hang is head in shame. The likes of Webb and the wanker Newell sold their souls some time again so you won't see these cowards condemn this.

This is only happening because bankerman is suppose to be picking up the tab for any loses the club make this year so by putting 10 loyal members of staff out with the rubbish he wont feel the pain so much. A bigger bastard never walked through Home Park gates.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

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250 employees apparently.

Take away from that figure the playing, coaching and medical staff, then subtract the casual, match day only staff, and what are you left with? At a guess, about 20-30 fulltime, non-playing staff (it is a guess on my part, I must emphasise that).

Still, easier to spin the redundancies if the public at large think that there's 250 well-paid fulltime jobs at the club.

I smell something more than just cost cutting here. There's inside club politics in this decision somewhere.... maybe Webby's done another 'Peggy'. It'll come out sooner or later.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

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250 employees apparently.

But that figure includes all the match-day-only people - programme sellers, turnstile operators, stewards, catering staff - most of whom are either contracted out (so employed by somebody else) or on the kind of contract where you don't have to make them redundant because they're so easy to get shot of anyway.

The backroom staff was cut to the bone during administration, and last time I went into the office (I haven't had any reason to do so recently, of course) it felt like the Marie Celeste. If there's as many as 40 people (and quite a few are part time) running the office, shop, stadium etc, I'd be pretty surprised.

Dougie wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

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250 employees apparently.

Love to see how they get that figure. Of course the higher the number the club say the less the impact of letting 10 go.

It also says we are a 'league one club', so I wouldn't take the BBC's figures of being very accurate, they can't even work out what league we are in.

Dougie wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

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250 employees apparently.

Love to see how they get that figure. Of course the higher the number the club say the less the impact of letting 10 go.

I think the BBC has mistakenly included the next home attendance figure.

All this makes me think you can't watch these people enough. Everything the say, everything they don't say, every action, every reaction, who they give patronage to, who they bad mouth and rail against, every tweet, every chat on the terrace, whose sitting where, who they are sitting next to, past performance and future plans cannot be mulled over enough.

Yes talk about football if you want and ignore all the rest but let's be clear things on the pitch affect things off the pitch and visa versa. They are symbiotic. They feed one another. They coalesce.

For community club read conmunity club.

Penzance wrote:

I smell something more than just cost cutting here. There's inside club politics in this decision somewhere.... It'll come out sooner or later.

I also smell this.

Frank Bullitt wrote:

Penzance wrote:

I smell something more than just cost cutting here. There's inside club politics in this decision somewhere.... It'll come out sooner or later.

I also smell this.

Me too. Stinks.

Maybe more evidence of the ongoing Soviet programs of a few chancers.
"We can do that for you James, they're crap"

Dougie wrote:

All this makes me think you can't watch these people enough. Everything the say, everything they don't say, every action, every reaction, who they give patronage to, who they bad mouth and rail against, every tweet, every chat on the terrace, whose sitting where, who they are sitting next to, past performance and future plans cannot be mulled over enough.

Yes talk about football if you want and ignore all the rest but let's be clear things on the pitch affect things off the pitch and visa versa. They are symbiotic. They feed one another. They coalesce.

For community club read conmunity club.

I'd hump the fook out of this post like a rabid badger on crack if it were a lady badger.

even I'm semi and it's been years since that last happened

Peggy wrote:

Frank Bullitt wrote:

Penzance wrote:

I smell something more than just cost cutting here. There's inside club politics in this decision somewhere.... It'll come out sooner or later.

I also smell this.

Me too. Stinks.

Care to elaborate ? Or is this just innuendo ?

Mock Cuncher wrote:

Dougie wrote:

All this makes me think you can't watch these people enough. Everything the say, everything they don't say, every action, every reaction, who they give patronage to, who they bad mouth and rail against, every tweet, every chat on the terrace, whose sitting where, who they are sitting next to, past performance and future plans cannot be mulled over enough.

Yes talk about football if you want and ignore all the rest but let's be clear things on the pitch affect things off the pitch and visa versa. They are symbiotic. They feed one another. They coalesce.

For community club read conmunity club.

I'd hump the fook out of this post like a rabid badger on crack if it were a lady badger.

Here's one. How about looking up Nool's statement two or three months ago regarding all his ever so successful auction Nik nonsense
He then proceeded to almost goad/slag the commercial department, arguably implying they should get their act together ... just like he does

Obviously they are hopeless compared to his own magnificent efforts... are you listening James ? It all reminds me of some lizzard in a pub with rather bad taste in clothes.

Penzance wrote:

Mock Cuncher wrote:

Dougie wrote:

All this makes me think you can't watch these people enough. Everything the say, everything they don't say, every action, every reaction, who they give patronage to, who they bad mouth and rail against, every tweet, every chat on the terrace, whose sitting where, who they are sitting next to, past performance and future plans cannot be mulled over enough.

Yes talk about football if you want and ignore all the rest but let's be clear things on the pitch affect things off the pitch and visa versa. They are symbiotic. They feed one another. They coalesce.

For community club read conmunity club.

I'd hump the fook out of this post like a rabid badger on crack if it were a lady badger.

Here's one. How about looking up Nool's statement two or three months ago regarding all his ever so successful auction Nik nonsense
He then proceeded to almost goad/slag the commercial department, arguably implying they should get their act together ... just like he does

Obviously they are hopeless compared to his own magnificent efforts... are you listening James ? It all reminds me of some lizzard in a pub with rather bad taste in clothes.

Could you find and post a link to those posts . Please .

What a difference in just over a year.

In Administration, job losses and other injustices aimed at the staff were met with all manner of calls to arms, demonstrations, vigils and constant noise in support of the staff. The men making staff redundant were vilified (northern tosser was one of the more printable epithets used); there was a fighting spirit that was determined to support the staff from attacks by Brendan Guilfoyle and his cohorts.

Fast forward, and what have we got? Thankfully this site is an oasis of sanity (and justifiable rage) at the news that we've heard today. Pasoti, however, really has reverted to type. The only difference I can see between redundancies 15 months ago and redundancies now is that the name of the person doing the firing has changed. But on pasoti, people who last year would have been lighting torches and preparing to ferment mutiny are tonight congratulating Brent on his business acumen. I despair.

“The supporters outside looked from Guilfoyle to Brent, and from Brent to Guilfoyle, and from Guilfoyle to Brent again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” With apologies to George Orwell.

greengenes wrote:

Penzance wrote:

Mock Cuncher wrote:

Dougie wrote:

All this makes me think you can't watch these people enough. Everything the say, everything they don't say, every action, every reaction, who they give patronage to, who they bad mouth and rail against, every tweet, every chat on the terrace, whose sitting where, who they are sitting next to, past performance and future plans cannot be mulled over enough.

Yes talk about football if you want and ignore all the rest but let's be clear things on the pitch affect things off the pitch and visa versa. They are symbiotic. They feed one another. They coalesce.

For community club read conmunity club.

I'd hump the fook out of this post like a rabid badger on crack if it were a lady badger.

Here's one. How about looking up Nool's statement two or three months ago regarding all his ever so successful auction Nik nonsense
He then proceeded to almost goad/slag the commercial department, arguably implying they should get their act together ... just like he does

Obviously they are hopeless compared to his own magnificent efforts... are you listening James ? It all reminds me of some lizzard in a pub with rather bad taste in clothes.

Could you find and post a link to those posts . Please .

It's there on Pasoti GG.... he doesn't post on here anymore. Ask the mods, I'm sure they'll point you to it.

The more I think about it the more that 250 employee figure grates. Someone at the club is playing at almighty game of spin. No integrity in saying 250 people work at the club and 10 of those are being made redundant.

There are 5 people who could have authorised the use of that figure and have been happy to have it released to the news networks. The main board are not playing with a straight bat and are laughing at us if they think people will just swallow that.

Having said that judging by some of the comments by fans they will swallow anything as long as they have a club 19th in the bottom division of the football league to support.