The Mankover all action Thread.

The reason pasoti needs so much bandwidth is to accomadate seven years worth of removing anything that didn't fit Nools plan for self advancement, it's must be thousands of pages now.

Have you notice these new seats, could they be samples of what type of seats that are going in?

Luton colours! Oh the irony!

That's the new DB.

Don't know if this is the right place to post this, but the new away end at St James Park was unveiled last Saturday for the visit of Northampton. The roof makes the support from the away fans much more audible and provides a very noisy stomping sound, which together with the New Stagecoach stand makes SJP feel more alive ( I realise that a statement like that provides much more scoffing room for Argyle fans!). However the other point is that the re-development was completed on-time, on budget and at low cost to the Club - all the cost was for the purchase and dismantling/reassembling of the new away end, and covering it. Your Mankover seems to have gone on for what seems an age. Is the current completion date realistic?

There is no need to rub it in Grace Less!

Any chance of borrowing your project manager, ours is feckin useless.

The overall project Manager was one of the Club Directors. He's pretty much driven the project from the start. Unusually perhaps for a non unitary authority the City Council have also been supportive in a number of ways.

6 months since work started and 80 per cent of the stuff that has actually happened has been in the couple of weeks where the tapeworm relinquished control.

The real amusing times will occur when those intending to sit on the Mayflower terrace suddenly realise theres no roof covering them

Tgwu wrote:

Have you notice these new seats, could they be samples of what type of seats that are going in?

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They seem to first appear on Cam pics for 19th Oct... frame39.

The seats are Halletts American football teams colours, doing a bit of Luggy style rebranding.

Surely but shorley we are not having orange seats lol

Earwegoagain wrote:

The seats are Halletts American football teams colours, doing a bit of Luggy style rebranding.

Good shout indeed

Earwegoagain wrote:

The seats are Halletts American football teams colours, doing a bit of Luggy style rebranding.

Don't wind the locals up, FFS.

I liked the tangergreen shirt. better then the shite away kits we have had lately

Jethro wrote:

I liked the tangergreen shirt. better then the shite away kits we have had lately

I found that a strange situation as i dont think any other team in history made in the very early days ala Notts county Juventus where a team wore the colours of another team to be tribute to a managers time there.

The extensive redevelopment work at Home Park is on schedule and on budget despite a couple of delays.

Jon Back, Plymouth Argyle’s head of stadium redevelopment, has given the latest update to Plymouth Live.

He is in constant dialogue with the main contractors for the £6.5million project, GL Events, and good progress has been made.

Back was ‘quietly confident’ the bulk of the new facilities would be open for September 2019, as scheduled.

That includes the seating in the upgraded 1950s-built grandstand, which has been partially demolished over recent weeks, including the removal of the roof, and is nearing completion.

Back told Plymouth Live: “We are currently on programme and on budget.

“That’s not to say there hasn’t been a couple of delays, such as around the club shop and ticket office, but that is not mission critical.

“There has been some slight delay in the demolition side of it.

“There has been contaminated soil, but we when talk about that it’s contaminated with heavy metals and such like, rather than anything dangerous.

“That has required it to go hundreds of miles away, rather than tens of miles away.

“As it stands, GLE are quietly confident that a week or two delay will be caught up within the main programme.”

Back continued: “Looking at the overall programme, we are still quietly confident that we will have the main raft of facilities open for September 2019.

“That’s not to say that some delays might come in.

“We have got to get through the winter period and we have built in for poor weather within the programme.

“But if we had anything like the snow that we had last year, it would be naive to think that wouldn’t have some impact on the programme.

“And, of course, we want to make sure we get the final fit-out absolutely spot on.

“So if it means we need to delay a week or two, just to make sure we get the spec right and that when people come in they are really wowed and have good facilities that work perfectly, then that is something we would probably consider.”

That said, there are certain aspects of the redevelopment that Argyle are determined to stick to schedule with.

Back said: “We will be selling our new premium seats very soon, and what we want to do is get people into those seats as near the start of the season that we can do.

“It might be that some of the peripheral functions and facilities might not be fully open but we are absolutely determined that the seats, and the premium areas, will be ready bang on schedule.”

Premium seats = no pillar, presumably.

Not many of them to sell then.

Imagine paying top dollar for a seat in the new stand and finding that a sodding great pillar obliterates the view of the Devonport End goal mouth almost completely.

You'd be wanting your money back pretty damned quick, wouldn't you?

Do we really need pillers to keep this piece of shit mankover roof up ?

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Premium seats = no pillar, presumably.

Not many of them to sell then.

Imagine paying top dollar for a seat in the new stand and finding that a sodding great pillar obliterates the view of the Devonport End goal mouth almost completely.

You'd be wanting your money back pretty damned quick, wouldn't you?

I would have thought a great deal of the supporters in that stand will have season tickets and will probably just apply to get their old seat back, and will know what the view is like?  I wouldn't sign up for season ticket unless I was happy with the view.  As for everyone else..  No change really...

I'm hoping "premium seating" would mean a seat with more legroom.  There is no way I am ever sitting in the grandstand in one of the normal seats.  The legroom is for midgets.  That to me is the biggest thing wrong with the refurb - no matter what is done, the seating legroom is not fit for humans.  I'd be interested to know if the Directors box has premium seating - I think I can guess the answer...

harvetheslayer wrote:

The real amusing times will occur when those intending to sit on the Mayflower terrace suddenly realise theres no roof covering them

The Lyndhurst is similar, you can get a wet shirt in row 6

Utter bollox. I think Bungo has all eventualities covered in that shite

Rickler wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Premium seats = no pillar, presumably.

Not many of them to sell then.

Imagine paying top dollar for a seat in the new stand and finding that a sodding great pillar obliterates the view of the Devonport End goal mouth almost completely.

You'd be wanting your money back pretty damned quick, wouldn't you?

I would have thought a great deal of the supporters in that stand will have season tickets and will probably just apply to get their old seat back, and will know what the view is like?  I wouldn't sign up for season ticket unless I was happy with the view.  As for everyone else..  No change really...

I'm hoping "premium seating" would mean a seat with more legroom.  There is no way I am ever sitting in the grandstand in one of the normal seats.  The legroom is for midgets.  That to me is the biggest thing wrong with the refurb - no matter what is done, the seating legroom is not fit for humans.  I'd be interested to know if the Directors box has premium seating - I think I can guess the answer...

Ricks I was up at Wembley at the weekend and the legroom is no more or less then what you would get at Argyle.

More legroom = reduced capacity.

The capacity has been reduced enough as it is without turning it into a bank of sun loungers.

legroom ffs.

Rickler wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Premium seats = no pillar, presumably.

Not many of them to sell then.

Imagine paying top dollar for a seat in the new stand and finding that a sodding great pillar obliterates the view of the Devonport End goal mouth almost completely.

You'd be wanting your money back pretty damned quick, wouldn't you?

I would have thought a great deal of the supporters in that stand will have season tickets and will probably just apply to get their old seat back, and will know what the view is like?  I wouldn't sign up for season ticket unless I was happy with the view.  As for everyone else..  No change really...

I'm hoping "premium seating" would mean a seat with more legroom.  There is no way I am ever sitting in the grandstand in one of the normal seats.  The legroom is for midgets.  That to me is the biggest thing wrong with the refurb - no matter what is done, the seating legroom is not fit for humans.  I'd be interested to know if the Directors box has premium seating - I think I can guess the answer...

Very much part of the problem.

For starters more leg room means fewer seats. Not all of those legacy ST holders will be able to sit where they always have, not exactly, and enjoy the same sightlines, not exactly. There's almost certainly going to some who end up with a worse view.

And even if they do not then the seats with unobstructed sightlines will be snaffled before anybody else gets a shout.

And, believe me, those pillars are an intractable bloody nuisance. I've only sat in the grandstand a few times in recent years and then then it was as a corporate customer sitting in my corporate seat. There's always a swathe of empty seats unused because people go to their allocated seat, realise the view is shockingly poor and then bugger off back to the bar to watch on a telly.

That's corporate hospitality types paying corporate hospitality top dollar for the privilege of looking at a vertical steel girder.

Those same seats presumably meet the current definition of "premium seating".

The complaints awaiting in the future are as foreseeable as the need to build the new TV camera gantry that nobody thought to apply for planning permission for.