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Punchdrunk wrote:
It shows how far we have fallen in the footballing pecking order and highlights the acceptance of mediocrity if the topic of conversation on Pasoti centres around "what display to do against Exeter".
I think the truth probably is that after the first season we encountered them the novelty worn off and that these days most Greasers couldn't really give a flying one about the 'express-way derby'  Laughing 
The attendances from the home fans at St James Park for the derby games would certainly support this theory.
Everything is so hyped up and overkill....from the ridiculously large segregation area to the suffocating  policing from our very own village style police force, the good old Devon and Cornwall constabulary.
Plymouth.....the Large City that acts like a small time backwater Hicktown.

I hate all this make a display bollocks, its what happens on the pitch that counts, not flag waving nerds off it. playing exeter in the fourth division is bad enough, with out a bunch of trainspotters reminding one and all.


So if you had your way we'd all sit there arms crossed with visible frowns showing Exeter fans how disappointed we are to be playing such shit opposition. Presumably shouting abuse at the players occasionally for not battering them by 6 clear goals. Then repeat for the next shit side like AFC Wimbledon - "this is crap, look at our reactions, we don't care about you, we should be playing Leeds".


The crowd get excited by attacking winning football, thats what builds atmosphere, not a bunch of Webb led nerds waving green cardboard.
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Did someone mention the phoney wimbledon ? :@
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I don't think anyone mentioned MK Dons.

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Well there is no longer a shortage of bricks and mortar so I am guessing the price of that should fall now..

Supplies in short demand and Subbies upping their rates

Don't worry though because Brent has already fixed the costs someone mentioned.
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sufferedsince 68 wrote:
ejh wrote:
sufferedsince 68 wrote:
Punchdrunk wrote:
It shows how far we have fallen in the footballing pecking order and highlights the acceptance of mediocrity if the topic of conversation on Pasoti centres around "what display to do against Exeter".
I think the truth probably is that after the first season we encountered them the novelty worn off and that these days most Greasers couldn't really give a flying one about the 'express-way derby'  Laughing 
The attendances from the home fans at St James Park for the derby games would certainly support this theory.
Everything is so hyped up and overkill....from the ridiculously large segregation area to the suffocating  policing from our very own village style police force, the good old Devon and Cornwall constabulary.
Plymouth.....the Large City that acts like a small time backwater Hicktown.

I hate all this make a display bollocks, its what happens on the pitch that counts, not flag waving nerds off it. playing exeter in the fourth division is bad enough, with out a bunch of trainspotters reminding one and all.


So if you had your way we'd all sit there arms crossed with visible frowns showing Exeter fans how disappointed we are to be playing such shit opposition. Presumably shouting abuse at the players occasionally for not battering them by 6 clear goals. Then repeat for the next shit side like AFC Wimbledon - "this is crap, look at our reactions, we don't care about you, we should be playing Leeds".


The crowd get excited by attacking winning football, thats what builds atmosphere, not a bunch of Webb led nerds waving green cardboard.

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sufferedsince 68 wrote:
ejh wrote:
sufferedsince 68 wrote:
Punchdrunk wrote:
It shows how far we have fallen in the footballing pecking order and highlights the acceptance of mediocrity if the topic of conversation on Pasoti centres around "what display to do against Exeter".
I think the truth probably is that after the first season we encountered them the novelty worn off and that these days most Greasers couldn't really give a flying one about the 'express-way derby'  Laughing 
The attendances from the home fans at St James Park for the derby games would certainly support this theory.
Everything is so hyped up and overkill....from the ridiculously large segregation area to the suffocating  policing from our very own village style police force, the good old Devon and Cornwall constabulary.
Plymouth.....the Large City that acts like a small time backwater Hicktown.

I hate all this make a display bollocks, its what happens on the pitch that counts, not flag waving nerds off it. playing exeter in the fourth division is bad enough, with out a bunch of trainspotters reminding one and all.


So if you had your way we'd all sit there arms crossed with visible frowns showing Exeter fans how disappointed we are to be playing such shit opposition. Presumably shouting abuse at the players occasionally for not battering them by 6 clear goals. Then repeat for the next shit side like AFC Wimbledon - "this is crap, look at our reactions, we don't care about you, we should be playing Leeds".


The crowd get excited by attacking winning football, thats what builds atmosphere, not a bunch of Webb led nerds waving green cardboard.

I disagree, the Exeter display was the highlight of that season. We turn over sides like Cheltenham 3-1 away last season, but it won't be remembered much in 3 years time, whereas the display will.
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The Studio School was given the go ahead by the Department of Education today and will be located on the University of St Mark & St John's campus in Derriford, opening September 2015.
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The Studio School was given the go ahead by the Department of Education today and will be located on the University of St Mark & St John's campus in Derriford, opening September 2015.

Is this verified anywhere? Great news if true as it hammers another nail into the Clusterfucks coffin.  cheers 
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No doubt the AFT will be straight on the phone to those that matter at Argyle trying to get verification and some clarity on how this will affect HHP.

And then I woke up....
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Tgwu wrote:
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The Studio School was given the go ahead by the Department of Education today and will be located on the University of St Mark & St John's campus in Derriford, opening September 2015.

Is this verified anywhere? Great news if true as it hammers another nail into the Clusterfucks coffin.  cheers 

## Govt Press Release ##

States approval for the Studio School for Sept 2015 opening but doesn't make any mention of relocation from HHP to Marjon's campus.
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I think the opening date of Sept 2015 is a clue,
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Good point, but could be a temporary measure.
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Plymouth Studio School

Plymouth Studio School will specialise in lifestyle services, sport and the visitor economy. It will cater for 300 students. The proposers are City College Plymouth working in partnership with the University of St Mark and St John, Akkeron Group/Plymouth Argyle Football Club, Duke of Cornwall Hotel and Plymouth County Council. The studio school will join with UTC Plymouth and the Plymouth School of Creative Arts free school to encourage young people to consider alternative routes in education


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As Lord Green Genie and Sir Graham Clark (over the other side innit) have pointed out, there's no indication where it's going to be, so it could still be at HP.

Shame, seeing I was going to start a book on what could go at HHP instead of the school. I'm going for a miniature railway - bit like the one op Trago.
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I've just seen this.

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Plymouth Studio School

Plymouth Studio School will specialise in lifestyle services, sport and the visitor economy. It will cater for 300 students. The proposers are City College Plymouth working in partnership with the University of St Mark and St John, Akkeron Group/Plymouth Argyle Football Club, Duke of Cornwall Hotel and Plymouth County Council. The studio school will join with UTC Plymouth and the Plymouth School of Creative Arts free school to encourage young people to consider alternative routes in education


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This could mean that one of the corners of Home Park has effectively gone forever.
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Peggy wrote:
As Lord Green Genie and Sir Graham Clark (over the other side innit) have pointed out, there's no indication where it's going to be, so it could still be at HP.



Apparently not...


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Principal announced it's location, Marjon, to all City College staff today.
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Do you think Brent was asking to much for the land?



A NEW secondary school has been given Government approval to open in Plymouth in September 2015.

The Plymouth Studio School is one of only four across the country to be announced today as having been given approval by the Department of Education.

Studio schools are now an established feature in the UK's education landscape with nearly 50 either open or approved to open across the UK for students of all abilities aged 14 to 19.

Project leaders say the Plymouth Studio School – working in partnership with city employers – will offer a range of academic, vocational and professional qualifications in line with the national curriculum to "address the growing gap between what young people require to succeed in life and the skills and knowledge the current education system provides".

The school was originally planned for a site next to Home Park.

But The Herald has learned that – because of the way these projects are funded – the school would not be able to pay for the land. Other sites were subsequently sought.

Phil Davies, principal of City College Plymouth, said: "Our vision is to create a vibrant place of learning, staffed by a team of excellent learning and personal coaches that will equip each individual student with the skills and confidence they need to achieve their full potential."

The main difference between this school and mainstream schools will be that all subjects will be taught through projects designed with employers. Classroom teaching will be combined with work placements.

At first, students will carry out work experience for four hours a week increasing to two days per week, often paid, when they turn 16.

This approach ensures students' learning is rooted in the real world.

The Plymouth Studio School, which will be intentionally small and focussed and based on the University of St Mark & St John's campus at Derriford, will foster a close-knit learning community specialising in sport, hospitality and tourism and leisure.

Once fully open the school, which is a partnership between City College Plymouth, the University of St Mark & St John and businesses in the city, will have about 300 students, aged from 14 to 19.

Professor Cara Aitchison, Vice-Chancellor of the University of St Mark & St John, said the new School will be housed in a purpose-built, state-of-the-art facility.

The school will open in September next year with 100 students – 60 students in year 10 and 40 in year 12.

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What left in his plans, Dentist, Hotel and Mini stand. forgot Ice Rink


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Brilliant! Educational activities go on an educational campus. Sport and leisure activities (not hotels, shops and cinemas) go in a park.
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Tgwu wrote:

Do you think Brent was asking to much for the land?



A NEW secondary school has been given Government approval to open in Plymouth in September 2015.

The Plymouth Studio School is one of only four across the country to be announced today as having been given approval by the Department of Education.

Studio schools are now an established feature in the UK's education landscape with nearly 50 either open or approved to open across the UK for students of all abilities aged 14 to 19.

Project leaders say the Plymouth Studio School – working in partnership with city employers – will offer a range of academic, vocational and professional qualifications in line with the national curriculum to "address the growing gap between what young people require to succeed in life and the skills and knowledge the current education system provides".

The school was originally planned for a site next to Home Park.

But The Herald has learned that – because of the way these projects are funded – the school would not be able to pay for the land. Other sites were subsequently sought.

Phil Davies, principal of City College Plymouth, said: "Our vision is to create a vibrant place of learning, staffed by a team of excellent learning and personal coaches that will equip each individual student with the skills and confidence they need to achieve their full potential."

The main difference between this school and mainstream schools will be that all subjects will be taught through projects designed with employers. Classroom teaching will be combined with work placements.

At first, students will carry out work experience for four hours a week increasing to two days per week, often paid, when they turn 16.

This approach ensures students' learning is rooted in the real world.

The Plymouth Studio School, which will be intentionally small and focussed and based on the University of St Mark & St John's campus at Derriford, will foster a close-knit learning community specialising in sport, hospitality and tourism and leisure.

Once fully open the school, which is a partnership between City College Plymouth, the University of St Mark & St John and businesses in the city, will have about 300 students, aged from 14 to 19.

Professor Cara Aitchison, Vice-Chancellor of the University of St Mark & St John, said the new School will be housed in a purpose-built, state-of-the-art facility.

The school will open in September next year with 100 students – 60 students in year 10 and 40 in year 12.

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Thank God for that.

It was all a bit weird in terms of funding, though, wasn't it?

The corners of the stadium are quite clearly "Argyle"'s in as much as the land is owned by the council and then leased to Argyle. The notion that Argyle could then "sell" it off to fund, well, anything, was always, at best, contentious.

So what are the options for that corner now? I can think of four:

1. Nothing;
2. Seating;
3. A lighthouse;
4. Something else.

It's such a shame. The juxtaposition of a school in one corner to counter-balance the dentistry* in another would have been aesthetically unique; truly yet another "first for Plymouth's Ocean City"!




*An idea so brilliant in its conception and simplicity that I fully expect corners of Stamford Bridge, The Emirates, Old Trafford and Anfield to be bull-dozed imminently thus allowing them to follow our lead.
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So what are the options for that corner now? I can think of four:

1. Nothing;
2. Seating;
3. A lighthouse;
4. Something else
5. The ladies from Millbay rd needs a new corner
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#6 is obviously so hush hush not even ATD is allowed to speculate as to what it could be!

Well I'm going to anyway:

A household waste incinerator?
A nuclear waste processing facility?
A supporters' bar?
A supermarket?
A "Home Park" railway link to North Road?
A helipad?

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Tgwu wrote:

Do you think Brent was asking to much for the land?



A NEW secondary school has been given Government approval to open in Plymouth in September 2015.

The Plymouth Studio School is one of only four across the country to be announced today as having been given approval by the Department of Education.

Studio schools are now an established feature in the UK's education landscape with nearly 50 either open or approved to open across the UK for students of all abilities aged 14 to 19.

Project leaders say the Plymouth Studio School – working in partnership with city employers – will offer a range of academic, vocational and professional qualifications in line with the national curriculum to "address the growing gap between what young people require to succeed in life and the skills and knowledge the current education system provides".

The school was originally planned for a site next to Home Park.

But The Herald has learned that – because of the way these projects are funded – the school would not be able to pay for the land. Other sites were subsequently sought.

Phil Davies, principal of City College Plymouth, said: "Our vision is to create a vibrant place of learning, staffed by a team of excellent learning and personal coaches that will equip each individual student with the skills and confidence they need to achieve their full potential."

The main difference between this school and mainstream schools will be that all subjects will be taught through projects designed with employers. Classroom teaching will be combined with work placements.

At first, students will carry out work experience for four hours a week increasing to two days per week, often paid, when they turn 16.

This approach ensures students' learning is rooted in the real world.

The Plymouth Studio School, which will be intentionally small and focussed and based on the University of St Mark & St John's campus at Derriford, will foster a close-knit learning community specialising in sport, hospitality and tourism and leisure.

Once fully open the school, which is a partnership between City College Plymouth, the University of St Mark & St John and businesses in the city, will have about 300 students, aged from 14 to 19.

Professor Cara Aitchison, Vice-Chancellor of the University of St Mark & St John, said the new School will be housed in a purpose-built, state-of-the-art facility.

The school will open in September next year with 100 students – 60 students in year 10 and 40 in year 12.

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Thank God for that.

It was all a bit weird in terms of funding, though, wasn't it?

The corners of the stadium are quite clearly "Argyle"'s in as much as the land is owned by the council and then leased to Argyle. The notion that Argyle could then "sell" it off to fund, well, anything, was always, at best, contentious.

So what are the options for that corner now? I can think of four:

1. Nothing;
2. Seating;
3. A lighthouse;
4. Something else.

It's such a shame. The juxtaposition of a school in one corner to counter-balance the dentistry* in another would have been aesthetically unique; truly yet another "first for Plymouth's Ocean City"!




*An idea so brilliant in its conception and simplicity that I fully expect corners of Stamford Bridge, The Emirates, Old Trafford and Anfield to be bull-dozed imminently thus allowing them to follow our lead.

The Barn Park / Grandstand corner which was intended to accommodate the studio school but still includes the proposed dentistry is part of the 1.22 acres James Brent has agreement to acquire from the Council and remove it from the football club lease. It was always odd, to put it kindly, that this part of the stadium was to be owned by another company HHP Nominee Ltd.

Given that this 'community facility' as it was termed in the approved plans amounts to something over 11,000ft2 that is a big hole to fill in terms of an alternative cash or investment generating use.

Perhaps this is something the AFT could pursue with the Council Leader?
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When is the meeting?
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Another issue with this news.

The loss of 300 potential customers for food outlets during quiet weekdays
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