The Grandstand to be open for the start of the season?

So much for being a Super Fan though, it seems to me that he couldn't give a fek for the Club as long as he gets to sit in a comfy seat.

The AFT have asked the club about this, both specifically about the Exeter game and about the season in general.

The response from the club was that they had not yet made up their minds but would get back to us at some point. So we are trying on this one but it pretty much continues to be 'as you were' I'm afraid.

Sam.

Sam,

have you asked why it appears to be open for corporates ( tribute lounge) but not ordinary fans and did you make them aware of how angry fans will be.

GreenSam wrote:

The AFT have asked the club about this, both specifically about the Exeter game and about the season in general.

The response from the club was that they had not yet made up their minds but would get back to us at some point. So we are trying on this one but it pretty much continues to be 'as you were' I'm afraid.

Sam.

That is pretty much the standard stock answer from Argyle (and the AFT) these days.

Rickler wrote:

GreenSam wrote:

The AFT have asked the club about this, both specifically about the Exeter game and about the season in general.

The response from the club was that they had not yet made up their minds but would get back to us at some point. So we are trying on this one but it pretty much continues to be 'as you were' I'm afraid.

Sam.

That is pretty much the standard stock answer from Argyle (and the AFT) these days.

Well, hang on a second it's not as if we've not asked. We have put the question to them on more than one occasion and this is the response we've got.

Richard- no that angle on it wasn't put to them but I agree that, after hearing the way you've worded it that it probably should be. Perhaps we should go back and put it to them from that perspective: of the fans who value their Mayflower spot and would be a bit miffed at seeing others in there and not themselves.

They've said they're getting back to us and if we don't get a definite yes or no answer then we will keep on asking and as soon as we know, so will you all.

The shabby and cavelier way the Brent regime treats long standing customers says it all about the ramshakle clueless leadership Argyle are currently under

Thanks Sam.

Many grandstand fans would rather stay in the grandstand surrounded by friends built up over many years than move, unless they really have to. Apart from that the view is better.

The AFT has no teeth , no groundswell of support and never will do, until it stops allowing the club to be politely dismissive.

Demand answers and if still ignored, go on the offensive. Clearly spell out that all the current owner seems to want is compliant bucket rattlers who know their place. Their leaders will receive the odd perk if they comply.

So Argyle. So Plymouth. So village.

GreenSam wrote:

Rickler wrote:

GreenSam wrote:

The AFT have asked the club about this, both specifically about the Exeter game and about the season in general.

The response from the club was that they had not yet made up their minds but would get back to us at some point. So we are trying on this one but it pretty much continues to be 'as you were' I'm afraid.

Sam.

That is pretty much the standard stock answer from Argyle (and the AFT) these days.

Well, hang on a second it's not as if we've not asked. We have put the question to them on more than one occasion and this is the response we've got.

The trouble is.. Half the time we don't know if you have been given an answer or not?

Has Tudor and the council got back to you about the HHP deal yet or not? If so... What did they say? And if not, what are you going to do about the situation?

Fair enough, communication's something we're trying to improve. Well that's certainly the case with the grandstand at any means.

The meeting with Tudor Evans were cancelled and re-arranged on far more than one occasion (on his side, not ours). Meetings that had had a time and date set for them were re-arranged for other matters a number of times. We're still trying to fix a meeting with somebody from Plymouth Labour/the governing council.

GreenSam wrote:

Fair enough, communication's something we're trying to improve. Well that's certainly the case with the grandstand at any means.

The meeting with Tudor Evans were cancelled and re-arranged on far more than one occasion (on his side, not ours). Meetings that had had a time and date set for them were re-arranged for other matters a number of times. We're still trying to fix a meeting with somebody from Plymouth Labour/the governing council.

Indeed !!!

Bent as a nine bob note the lot of em.

Tell Evans there will be a photo shoot, he loves the camera, TFOCP was promise a meeting never turns up and I had e-mail from a group from Efford and they have the same problem. Tudor smile

GreenSam wrote:

Fair enough, communication's something we're trying to improve. Well that's certainly the case with the grandstand at any means.

The meeting with Tudor Evans were cancelled and re-arranged on far more than one occasion (on his side, not ours). Meetings that had had a time and date set for them were re-arranged for other matters a number of times. We're still trying to fix a meeting with somebody from Plymouth Labour/the governing council.

Maybe someone is trying to tell you something?

So you're being fobbed off - now what are you (AFT) going to do?

Punchdrunk wrote:

GreenSam wrote:

Fair enough, communication's something we're trying to improve. Well that's certainly the case with the grandstand at any means.

The meeting with Tudor Evans were cancelled and re-arranged on far more than one occasion (on his side, not ours). Meetings that had had a time and date set for them were re-arranged for other matters a number of times. We're still trying to fix a meeting with somebody from Plymouth Labour/the governing council.

Indeed !!!

Bent as a nine bob note the lot of em.

the club is doomed im afraid

I've just been updated this evening that there has in fact been a new date arranged for the latest meeting with Tudor Evans. Let's hope this one all goes as planned.

Sam,

I suggest that if this meeting gets called off, then the AFT should update it's membership by newsletter explaining why there's been no meeting and let the membership draw it's own conclusions.

Richard Blight wrote:

Sam,

I suggest that if this meeting gets called off, then the AFT should update it's membership by newsletter explaining why there's been no meeting and let the membership draw it's own conclusions.

I concur. It should be obvious that the AFT is being treated with contempt by the club and the council. It simply has to up the ante and do what Richard has suggested, or become yet another compliant , bucket rattling group of ever so grateful janners.

GreenSam wrote:

I've just been updated this evening that there has in fact been a new date arranged for the latest meeting with Tudor Evans. Let's hope this one all goes as planned.

May I ask for what date?

And what is the plan if it yet again doesn't happen?

Please don't say, "ask for it to be rescheduled"?

Tring/Rickler,

You guys seem to be the most vociferous about the lack of AFT action ( of which I agree with you both),
Maybe you have some ideas for what the trust can do to try and move things forward

Just off to bed so bad timing (again), but I touched on it here:

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But in a word..

Mobilise!

alannotivvy wrote:

Tring/Rickler,

You guys seem to be the most vociferous about the lack of AFT action ( of which I agree with you both),
Maybe you have some ideas for what the trust can do to try and move things forward

I've offered my suggestions on many occasions............ and they are largely the same as Rickler's.

I tend to discount the views of those that appear to have a personal vendetta or agenda rather than a genuine desire to push forward a solution. Maybe the majority of others feel the same?

The problems of arranging meetings with the controlling Labour Council and specifically Tudor Evans has been common knowledge for sometime, as have discussions to remedy the problem.

There's a course to follow. You don't scream and shout after one person fails to attend a meeting, not at the first attempt, or the second, or the third or the fourth, but once you have build up a path of rational and logical information you can then start to scream and shout.

The AFT in this case are ticking all the boxes as far as I am concerned and I think that most logical and rational thinking members of the AFT would agree. There have been times when I would have liked to have seen a little more spunk for the AFT, this isn't one of them...yet, but it's getting close.

Copious amounts of daily repetitiveness and motivational words of passion are just that, words. They aren't really taken seriously and neither are those that use them. Some may not like me for saying that, but I am afraid it's a fact.

A week is a long time on ATD   

GOB wrote:

I'm afraid there's been far to many opportunities missed by the AFT to get the public on its side and to tell the stinking story and so much more could have been done. That's not a personal criticism of those that run the show because we all have busy lives these days, but-none-the-less, it's the way that it is.  

Who was it that didn't turn up for HIGNFY and was subbed by a useless tub of lard?

I'm not sure why that sprung to mind.

Roy Hattersley