The Richard Burton V Richard Blight grudge match showdown originally posted in the wrong forum by spolly

Every human being on the planet says "get orf my land", as you call it, when they dislike what is going on in their vicinity. You would be no different. You are no different. I guess you'd be one of those who think the Americans should decide what goes on in Afghanistan or Iraq or Timbuctoo. You obviously think you have as much right as anybody, anywhere, if you happen to support a football club from afar once in a blue moon   ?
You talk bullshit, always have done, far too interested in exercising wordsmithery than actually the matter at hand. You play at it all, and are just happy you have a club to support, no matter what. End of. I need that club to be something I can support, something it used to be, something I felt kinship with, not some pale imitation and vehicle for another property developer.
Please understand many other fans feel a whole lot different to you. And a whole lot of residents too, who have far more rights in the matter than you do.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

The above worries me.

There's far, far more wrong with the HHP plan than the lack of a supporters' bar and I can't believe for a moment that Brent hadn't thought of it.

Only a complete idiot would not include a supporters' bar in such a venture and I don't for a second think Brent is one of them.

My conclusion is that there will be one and that there has been a plan for one all along but it won't be revealed until it is absolutely necessary as a sop to hoodwink everybody into forgetting all the other inherent inadequacies.

If you remember from the AFT AGM at the CBC    recently, Martyn Starnes, CEO, said clearly that much work was being put into place to develop one. He also commented on how expensive it would be to kit out. I can't remember whether he implied that it would be outsourced or would be run in house - he certainly wasn't clear about that. It is strange that nothing has been said since then as it's such an important issue.

I picked first and second in the national today, so at least I had something to cheer. Poor first half performance from Argyle, good second. We were both unlucky to not be humiliated and also unlucky not to get something from the game.

Winter Green wrote:

Every human being on the planet says "get orf my land", as you call it, when they dislike what is going on in their vicinity. You would be no different. You are no different.  I guess you'd be one of those who think the Americans should decide what goes on in Afghanistan or Iraq or Timbuctoo. You obviously think you have as much right as anybody, anywhere, if you happen to support a football club from afar once in a blue moon   ?
You talk bullshit, always have done, far too interested in exercising wordsmithery than actually the matter at hand. You play at it all, and are just  happy you have a club to support, no matter what. End of. I need that club to be something I can support, something it used to be, something I felt kinship with, not some pale imitation and vehicle for another property developer.
Please understand many other fans feel a whole lot different to you. And a whole lot of residents too, who have far more rights in the matter than you do.

This!

How come xshite flirts on here, banned on the farm, well that would be something!

I take it we lost then ...... Lol

All the Presidents Men wrote:

Winter Green wrote:

Every human being on the planet says "get orf my land", as you call it, when they dislike what is going on in their vicinity. You would be no different. You are no different.  I guess you'd be one of those who think the Americans should decide what goes on in Afghanistan or Iraq or Timbuctoo. You obviously think you have as much right as anybody, anywhere, if you happen to support a football club from afar once in a blue moon   ?
You talk bullshit, always have done, far too interested in exercising wordsmithery than actually the matter at hand. You play at it all, and are just  happy you have a club to support, no matter what. End of. I need that club to be something I can support, something it used to be, something I felt kinship with, not some pale imitation and vehicle for another property developer.
Please understand many other fans feel a whole lot different to you. And a whole lot of residents too, who have far more rights in the matter than you do.

This!

How come xshite flirts on here, banned on the farm, well that would be something!

Been here longer than you two have........... bleddy newbies, get owf my laand  

Come on chaps let's go easy on Xisle he's in a very difficult position. He's another one, nay the main one that advocated a no holds barred support of James Brent before any of us knew what he was like. It's called backing the wrong horse. This particular horse was worthy of backing because of the way that it oozed, morals, integrity and openness. What's happened to your strap line btw?

he must suffer.

Anyone and everyone has the right of an opinion on here but already the idiot is spouting crap.

If you don't like it on 'our laand' Smiffy, bog off back under your pasoti stone, you're more at home there where you can preach your understanding of football and your hypocritical ethics.

Am I seriously reading this? Someone says something that doesn't tow the line with the Brent's an evil bastard or the football's a feckin disgrace narrative running on here and he's being hounded off the site. Isn't this what you criticise Pasoti for, but for their hyper jolly attitude?

Haha bleddy hell.

spowell92 wrote:

Am I seriously reading this? Someone says something that doesn't tow the line with the Brent's an evil bastard or the football's a feckin disgrace narrative running on here and he's being hounded off the site. Isn't this what you criticise Pasoti for, but for their hyper jolly attitude?

Haha bleddy hell.

It does happen at times....but not as bad as it used to be......probably because James Brent isn't so busy putting the PAFC world to right at present.

spowell92 wrote:

Am I seriously reading this? Someone says something that doesn't tow the line with the Brent's an evil bastard or the football's a feckin disgrace narrative running on here and he's being hounded off the site. Isn't this what you criticise Pasoti for, but for their hyper jolly attitude?

Haha bleddy hell.

I wouldn't fret abait X-Isle.

He's far too dimwittedly oblivious to take anything ter heart.

*makes gag abait Crawley*

haw de haw

      

So to get this right, if we don't agree we will be accused of hounding someone from this site, is that it?

I don't agree with his views, I find him a hypocrite and someone that will say the right things to curry favour. I think his views will be more welcome on Ian Newell's site and I think that a great many will disagree with his views and his hypocrisy's on this site.

If that means he is being hounded from this site then I can live with that.

The one thing you and he can be sure of is that he will not be banned from this site for his views and neither will anyone else. If his stomach isn't strong enough for that then by all means use the phrase "hounded off", I for one do not really care.

spowell92 wrote:

Am I seriously reading this? Someone says something that doesn't tow the line with the Brent's an evil bastard or the football's a feckin disgrace narrative running on here and he's being hounded off the site. Isn't this what you criticise Pasoti for, but for their hyper jolly attitude?

Haha bleddy hell.

Who's 'hounding' him off? Define hounding, and give me an example on this thread please. All I can see is that an individual is telling Xthingy that if he doesn't like it on here, feckoff back Pasoti. I can't see any pack mentality in play here. It's an opinion - which, as we all know are free to air on ATD without fear of being stoned to death in public as you may well be on Pasoti if you don't toe the General Von Hooligan and secretary De-Lar's line.

Gob, it's one thing to disagree and argue/debate against what someone says, it's another to say "If you don't like it on 'our laand' Smiffy, bog off back under your pasoti stone, you're more at home there where you can preach your understanding of football and your hypocritical ethics".

Your very presence here negates your argument. You are out of kilter with a lot of posters on here with your views being so positive.    you came in for some unwarranted criticism for your views here whilst on pasoti. You started an account and came here and stood your ground, whilst posters have argued with you in no way have you been hounded from the site. You are respected as poster with your own views who is not afraid to stand and argue them thats what forums are for. As for Xisle he is or should be embarressed about his support of Brent and HHP, he is as welcome on here as anybody but he will be asked for views on his opinions and those views will be questioned.

I haven't really seen views questioned though Iggy, it just seemed to get a bit bitty and bitchy.

I was about to post something very similar, Iggy.

I do think the attacks are a bit OTT at times and at times it seems like a baptism of fire is obligatory (though as Zyph says that is less than it used to be) but anyone who stands his ground, argues his case & manages to influence opinion will gain respect - just like Mr Powell has done. And, like all things, there is history to put into the mix.

spowell92 wrote:

I haven't really seen views questioned though Iggy, it just seemed to get a bit bitty and bitchy.

There's a lot of water under the bridge here that you are not taking into account. Personally I don't dislike Xisle as a person, in fact I don't know him so I would save that judgement for if I actually met him. As a poster Xilse and myself used to lock horns regularly and have many an online argument. His skin is as thick as his head and he can take it on the chin, don't worry yourself about him.

I'm not worried for X'y, I'm just confused by the attitude of some posters on "the people's forum". But then I guess they're just as inclined to give off the attitude they are, as I am to argue against it. It just seems odd to me that some of the posters on a forum for free speech and all opinions would suggest another poster who doesn't share their thoughts bugger off to somewhere else.

Are you sue that you've logged onto the right forum? FCOL! Give ATD to pbay mods and it would be cut down to about three pages!

you seem to struggle with the concept of this site Spowell. I would happily suggest that X buggers off elsewhere but the bit that you struggle to understand is that it's up to him if he does or not.

Oh piss off Gob   

am I doing it right?

there, that's better   

As much as I disagree with many (if not most) of X Isle's views on Argyle, I have no doubt that all of them come from his genuine heartfelt opinions and not one of them is political or to curry any kind of favour. He's stubborn, he's forthright and sometimes his opinions have me banging my head against a wall and I'm sure mine do the same to him but one thing I am certain on is that he means what he says and says what he means. He also always argues it fantastically. For those reasons, I'm delighted to see more of him on both ATD and Pasoti. He's someone that thinks independently and puts that across as well as anyone on the two sites. It's good to have variety imo.