Plymouth Argyle Remain A Work In Progress plymouth

He has thrown in the police towel

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In one way yes H, but I have had a few people say, over the last few months, 'if it's untrue why don't you say so' and to be fair they have a point.

I haven't poked, I haven't prodded, but still the sh*t comes, and I am sick and fed with it.

I am being harrassed, it's as simple as that. If the police can be bothered, they can look into eack and ever claim that Jock makes, and I welcome that, and to be honest I couldn't really care about the due process of the law, I simply want this to stop.

No person or persons should be persecuted in this manner, end of.

Thing is he could easily sign up here and even use the chatbox as a facility for a "meet".

Its visible to all but would be controlled by a selected mod team of their choosing.

Newell and jock air their differences in a publicly viewable way where nothing can be edited but gives the security that nobody feels their personal safety is at risk.

the police arrange home visits now do they? first i've heard of that surely if you called them they would be round sooner!

Yea Man wrote:

Thing is he could easily sign up here and even use the chatbox as a facility for a "meet".

Its visible to all but would be controlled by a selected mod team of their choosing.

Newell and jock air their differences in a publicly viewable way where nothing can be edited but gives the security that nobody feels their personal safety is at risk.

only probelm with that would be the chatroom being flooded with others chipping in. If ian wants to do that then the chatroom should be public viewing but only ian and pete should post in it.

To be honest, now he has his own site and ii's becoming more of a place where the only users are IJN and one or two other "friends", I think he and pasoti would soon wither and die as it is already. Buying coaches to keep interest will only last as long as the coaches are available but the fact is, few give a toss about Newell or pasoti these days.

It really isn't funny and the most important question is whether Newell and co will take Jock up on his offer.

Put up, or take the ongoing criticism Mr Newell.

IJN
Post subject: Re: Work In ProgressPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:27 pm


Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:15 pm
I don't read the site, but if that's a genuine offer then I'll be delighted to attend.

I haven't got a legal team, never said I had, I said an on top lawyer who deals with on line issues has offered his advice.

As for the police, no bluff, I am using the same crime number as last October and they are coming to see me on Monday at 1730 at home.

Anyway back to the point, I'd be delighted to see the man and sort this out once and for all as I always have been.

If somebody wants to E mail me, no him, that wouldn't be a fair and we can get together.

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@IJN3. Senior Green #264 and Plymouth Branch #76

He hasn't seen the detail of the meet yet.........

Greenjock wrote.........
I don't mind meeting up and discussing it, never been asked so where the story that I won't meet to sort it out is again beyond me. I'll meet as long as Chris Webb is also there along with Tony Hooper, Postey and Sean Rapson so some real explanations can take place. Postey will have to answer some questions, as will Webb. If they won't agree you can make your own minds up.

John Lloyd and Jon Back mediating suits me fine as long as Jon Back brings to the table the details of what was said to him would happen to his chances of making the PASB if he kept posting on ATD.

Someone from the club would be good as well and finally written assurances that Roger Willis will never be threatened or abused again and a terrific gesture from Mike Newell and Pete Desborough for the trouble caused to Roger previously. The gesture can be of Rogers choosing.

I'm ready if they are.

Angry of Manchester wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

Thing is he could easily sign up here and even use the chatbox as a facility for a "meet".

Its visible to all but would be controlled by a selected mod team of their choosing.

Newell and jock air their differences in a publicly viewable way where nothing can be edited but gives the security that nobody feels their personal safety is at risk.

only probelm with that would be the chatroom being flooded with others chipping in. If ian wants to do that then the chatroom should be public viewing but only ian and pete should post in it.

Mods can ban (temporarily) anyone who starts flooding the board with their grievances.

We could set it up if both parties are interested.

The option is there if the two would prefer not to meet face to face but want to get it out in the open.

Kept civil then it could be a chance to clear the air.

The offers there if Jock and Ian are interested.

Looks like the 'Directors' Box Experience' is in the bag for Jock

Maybe even hints at beating Cerbs into the modr...................... nah

Yea Man wrote:

Angry of Manchester wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

Thing is he could easily sign up here and even use the chatbox as a facility for a "meet".

Its visible to all but would be controlled by a selected mod team of their choosing.

Newell and jock air their differences in a publicly viewable way where nothing can be edited but gives the security that nobody feels their personal safety is at risk.

only probelm with that would be the chatroom being flooded with others chipping in. If ian wants to do that then the chatroom should be public viewing but only ian and pete should post in it.

Mods can ban (temporarily) anyone who starts flooding the board with their grievances.

We could set it up if both parties are interested.

The option is there if the two would prefer not to meet face to face but want to get it out in the open.

Kept civil then it could be a chance to clear the air.

The offers there if Jock and Ian are interested.

It just has to be formal, with witnesses and all the required persons present. A bit like Jeremy Kyle without the lie detector test.............. I'd love a lie detector test because I know where the lies are coming from.

Skype conference call - minimum 1 hour duration - access but not intervention to all - couple of mediators/moderators to oversee. £5 to view, money to charity.

He could sign up here and delete his account after if he so wished.

Although he'll need to email us first as we've added his email address to the banned list as people kept using it for fake accounts.

Jock and Ian the offer is there, use the chatbox on here at a time convenient to both and a time where a mod or two can be available to activate it.

No stepping in from anyone, no flooding the chat with other grievances just Jock putting everything to Ian and giving him a chance to respond.

Angry of Manchester wrote:

I seriously have to question why Ian had to take all these photoshops in the first place let alone be foolish to publish them!!!

not bright is he?

He needed them for his duties as a pasoti mod, Angry. That's why he had screenshots of posts I'd made in the pasoti modroom in about 2005, because the other mods wouldn't be able to see them. Given he added them to his Flickr account - which had been on public view for months, by the way, and which was never hacked or stolen - around the time I joined this site, I assume they were still visible to the other pasoti mods then. Which kind of blows his whole argument out of the water.

The notion that Jock's strings are being pulled is a desperate attempt to deflect attention from the real issues. Perhaps the people so keen to brush all this under the carpet (again) should stop and consider just why so many of us keep repeating the same messages.

Yea Man wrote:

He could sign up here and delete his account after if he so wished.

Although he'll need to email us first as we've added his email address to the banned list as people kept using it for fake accounts.

Jock and Ian the offer is there, use the chatbox on here at a time convenient to both and a time where a mod or two can be available to activate it.

No stepping in from anyone, no flooding the chat with other grievances just Jock putting everything to Ian and giving him a chance to respond.

Typing will take too long - got to be the spoken word

Keyboards at dawn.

Right it looks like he's accepted so lets do it.

I'm logging off for the night now to spend some time with my missus as I've spent far too much time online on the last few days and she wants a night of passion, so I've hired Rocky 3.

Hopefully the wheels can be set in motion for this to happen, but more than anything I want assurances about Roger/Baba that he won't be threatened/abused anymore.

Ian's got the police coming to see him on Monday evening, while I will be watching Simple Minds. Don't you forget about me Ian

You've seen me accept a meeting now let's see if Newell's crew do the same thing. I somehow doubt they will and there will be some stoopid excuse why it can't happen.

I don't get all this. While Jock's been on the receiving end more than most, he's not the only person who's been dealt a pile of shit - and while Newell's behind most of it, there have been other people involved. Newell didn't do the ADT site on his own, for starters, and the allegations that a young member of club staff had been sending those threats certainly didn't come from him alone.

It's not going to be stopped by two people talking to each other (that's already been tried, remember). It's going to be stopped by the club taking appropriate action about the assaults, verbal and physical, in the business lounge, by the police taking action over any illegal behaviour, and by a group of people admitting that they've been bullying liars for far to long - and fecking off.

Gert Loinz wrote:

Typing will take too long - got to be the spoken word

You shore ?

With an angry Sweaty in one corner and the lying, mumbling, fork'tard, Janner, hoolie wannabe in the other the translations could take forever.

Greenjock wrote:

I have passed all the details to the club GOB. It's being looked into by Jason something, but can you imagine Brents mate getting any action taken against him? The guy who's been responsible for raising so much of Brents debt?

Nothing more to say then womble?

Jock

I wasnt critisiing you're honesty, I was merely stating that it would have been far better to involve the authorities immediately rather than let it fester.

Peggy * wrote:

I don't get all this. While Jock's been on the receiving end more than most, he's not the only person who's been dealt a pile of shit - and while Newell's behind most of it, there have been other people involved. Newell didn't do the ADT site on his own, for starters, and the allegations that a young member of club staff had been sending those threats certainly didn't come from him alone.

It's not going to be stopped by two people talking to each other (that's already been tried, remember). It's going to be stopped by the club taking appropriate action about the assaults, verbal and physical, in the business lounge, by the police taking action over any illegal behaviour, and by a group of people admitting that they've been bullying liars for far to long - and fecking off.

Brent cares very little about the club as it is he isnt going to take action at all. His interests are in property only, if he had any interest in the club he wouldnt allow ian to dictate klike he does around the club.

Peggy * wrote:

I don't get all this. While Jock's been on the receiving end more than most, he's not the only person who's been dealt a pile of shit - and while Newell's behind most of it, there have been other people involved. Newell didn't do the ADT site on his own, for starters, and the allegations that a young member of club staff had been sending those threats certainly didn't come from him alone.

It's not going to be stopped by two people talking to each other (that's already been tried, remember). It's going to be stopped by the club taking appropriate action about the assaults, verbal and physical, in the business lounge, by the police taking action over any illegal behaviour, and by a group of people admitting that they've been bullying liars for far to long - and fecking off.

No surrender! Newell, mini- Newell, Webb, De Lar, Hooper, Jones, Jameson etc etc will all have to come clean and at the very least apologise - it just will not happen Peggy. It's a full on cabal of entrenched deceitful corruption.

Gert Loinz wrote:

Peggy * wrote:

I don't get all this. While Jock's been on the receiving end more than most, he's not the only person who's been dealt a pile of shit - and while Newell's behind most of it, there have been other people involved. Newell didn't do the ADT site on his own, for starters, and the allegations that a young member of club staff had been sending those threats certainly didn't come from him alone.

It's not going to be stopped by two people talking to each other (that's already been tried, remember). It's going to be stopped by the club taking appropriate action about the assaults, verbal and physical, in the business lounge, by the police taking action over any illegal behaviour, and by a group of people admitting that they've been bullying liars for far to long - and fecking off.

No surrender! Newell, mini- Newell, Webb, De Lar, Hooper, Jones, Jameson etc etc will all have to come clean and at the very least apologise - it just will not happen Peggy. It's a full on cabal of entrenched deceitful corruption.

I think that's pretty much what I'm saying, Gert. I don't see why Jock should have to go through any more stress when we all know nothing's going to change. Unless, of course, the club's investigation of the assaults does lead to action - or if the police really are involved.

Peggy * wrote:

I don't see why Jock should have to go through any more stress when we all know nothing's going to change. Unless, of course, the club's investigation of the assaults does lead to action - or if the police really are involved.

If Peggy, If?

Newell on Pasoti wrote:

As for the police, no bluff, I am using the same crime number as last October and they are coming to see me on Monday at 1730 at home.

A special house call no less... No 'come down to the station' for the great farm owner.

Rickler wrote:

Peggy * wrote:

I don't see why Jock should have to go through any more stress when we all know nothing's going to change. Unless, of course, the club's investigation of the assaults does lead to action - or if the police really are involved.

If Peggy, If?

Newell on Pasoti wrote:

As for the police, no bluff, I am using the same crime number as last October and they are coming to see me on Monday at 1730 at home.

A special house call no less... No 'come down to the station' for the great farm owner.

i didnt think they did that!

They do if they are going to arrest you!