Andy Symons & John Petrie (aka "Leaders of the Opposition")

Damon.Lenszner wrote:

AoM - there is a Trust meeting after the game. I will be guided as to my next move by the Trust.

fair enough hopefully the trust all agree on the right thing to do. just be assured real fans back the trust and yourself in fighting the good fight for the good of the club.

GOB wrote:

Yes and no doubt the clock is ticking down for Postey, Newell and Webb to announce that Andy S and John P are not "propppaaaa fans" and that they have turned the AFT against the club, it's just a matter of time.

I hope that Postey, Newell and Webb have woken up to the fact that none of them demand even the slightest hint of respect from a great many fans and most fans now know them for what they are, self-interested, treacherous, cheating wannabee directors!

If the Board is unwilling to recognise the validity of the Trust then they have no option but to resign en masse from a body that was set up in competition to the Trust.

What they do then requires careful consideration.

I would go on the attack. Most fans know that Newell certainly and Webb are tainted. I would release all the details that they've been told and their concerns. I would also outline concerns about Webb's and Jones's internet activities.

Go nuclear.

If we don't win this game today there is always a chance of it going nuclear anyway but this quite staggering news from Brent makes it almost certain I feel. A bad move on his part in my opinion which will really get peoples backs up. Even Webb, Jameson etc are AFT members. Not sure how it will sit with then but it will be interesting to see.

Webb etc will side with brent.

Freathy wrote:

Webb etc will side with brent.

of course he will he is a company man to the bitter end.

I think so as well, The union shop steward who has tasted life on the other side and won't want to give it up.

just another champagne socialist i spose,should stick with ruff cyder

looking forward to the trust repsonse to this news later on.

he sold his principle for a seat in the pig sty,
As I always indicated if the trust leaves the PASB I will join the trust

Freathy wrote:

Webb etc will side with brent.

webb wont leave his masters side, he and the fat labarador will start barking at the trust and shitting everywhere! woof woof

What a total bunch of wankers!

Oh well if the only body they will communicate with is the PASB, how do the fans feel about the fact that certain high profile fans basically threatened a PASB candidate into not posting on ATD?

Here are some extracts from P.M.'s sent to be by one of the PASB candidates before the PASB elections:

Thanks Jock,

It all certainly adds to the feeling that theres a deep rooted problem here.

I still suspect that CW wishes he was no longer part of it, but don't know that as fact.

As fir the GAS board, I'm not far throwing the towel in, although I suspect that may be desired by some!

Incidentally, my twitter account was hacked again yesterday & my email was attacked again - coincidence??

Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:46 am Topic: Re: As below
Hi Jock,

Thanks for the below - a lot of what you say accords with my hunches & suspicions. It may be that CW was at some stage involved in some of the shenanigans but I too suspect that he wishes he wasn't part of it anymore.

I actually think that he could be a good grass roots champion for Argyle.

As for the others involved, well I'm not so sure. Again in confidence, I've had a couple of emails from them over the last couple of weeks which give me the impression that my PASB application will be undermined should I continue to use ATD. Hey Ho - I don't really care & take pride in ploughing my own furrow.

Hi Jock,

I hope that you're well & had a good break - I'm just back from family hols as well & a touch back-to-work-blue.

I've been reading what you've been posting with interest & concern (re PI-gate) & thought that given both my profession & my PASB interest that I really should raise my concerns with the club.

As such, I've emailed CW with my concerns & amongst other things offered to 'investigate' (from a more HR angle, than a criminal one) the issues arising; on an independent & cost-free basis (I'm facking expensive, professionally).

Whilst it would be pretty dull to keep a commentary, I'll give you a shout should things develop; indeed should the offer be accepted I'll ask to meet & speak (& drink cider) if that's ok.

I also thought that it behoved me to let you know, given that you're central to the issues.

These are parts of PM's sent to me, which show that Christ Webb knew all about the threats to stop posting on ATD, and hasn't said a thing about it, nor has he done anything about the report of a PASB member being a private investigator hired to track me down and in the end supplying my mothers details to Lee Jameson, who then showed these details to all and sundry on a GT's coach last season.

This is just another disgusting example of the corrupt people involved in Plymouth Argyle at the moment. These threats came from well known supporters who have influence at the club, trying to stop PASB candidates from having the freedom to post on any site they wish.

The fact that James Brent is no longer willing to have dialogue with the Trust, but is quite happy to speak to, and in fact meet Tony Hooper along with Ian Newell for a meal where who know's what was discussed? What has Ian Newell got to do with the PASB? I think the obvious answer is that Tony Hooper has been caught out with his private investigator business and is basically now under Newell's thumb. I would say that Tony Hooper is now a "club" man on the PASB, along with Lee Jameson's replacement, who was given a free place on the PASB.

I would now urge the Trust to let all of their members know exactly what has been going on and call for them all to boycott the next home game.

I wonder how Christ Webb feels about this happening to the Trust that he loves He is central in all of this and anyone still not aware of what a snake this man is, will never realise it.

Any else wonder why I couldn't give a feck about Argyle anymore?

GJ these indivduals will drive alot of fans away from the club if not already.
Seems like Nazi cleansing of the Polish ghettos all this running out of fans not pure enough to support the club if they dont follow the master.

Puppet people that will have their strings cut soon enough once all their under hand dealings come out in the open.

So James Brent didn't even turn up for the first full PASB meeting.

Speaks volumes.

Was Brent at the match?

So it comes to pass. From The Trust being used to install Brent against all others to Webb resigning and taking a place on the inside to the ludicrous 400k no share offer to Deepthroat to the formation of the PASB over engagement with the Trust to certain SUPER fans very publically resigning from the Trust when they didn't like the make up of the Trust board to Brent gagging the Trust from passing answers to its members to The Presidents intervention despite not posting on the Internet when the the Trust call Brent to answer it's deep concerns to Jones retaliating despite being mute for months to a stand up set to between Andy S and Jones now the Trust has been officially sidelined by Brent and his cronies.

You couldn't make it up. But you could see it coming. It was so obvious since Brent took over the club that it was his way or no way at all. This is what Brent thinks of the fans and it's contemptuous to say the least. The first time the Trust comes into conflict with him he takes away the train set. He obviously only wish to deal with a pliant and compliant fan base and it's obviously been the ploy of those who surround him to try to deliver it.

They failed and Brent couldn't have that. Far easier to stop all the games and get rid.

I would hope that the rest of the PASB members resign on mass after this development - whether they are in the Trust or not. Its just a matter of time before he does the same thing to the rest of the PASB. Apart from his dinner companions of course.

But of course its only a rumour on Pasoti..........

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They'll be dancing on the street of Windsor and Ho Chi Minh tonight

From The Doctor on Pasoti:

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It's true - confirmed to me my Peter Jones. The club 'are having nothing to do with the Trust'.

I think this is very disappointing news but I've said my piece already.

I'm sure there are others who will have much more to say about this than I do..

well i believe the word of Damon who broke the news on here then pasoti hands down every time.

The battle lines are well and truly being drawn.

us vs them

Well it works both ways. I will work to discredit all those involved at every opportunity in their normal business lives. Ideas welcome. Fight fire with fire.

And they have a lot of skeletons they want to keep hidden. This is going to backfire massively on the club. Serves the cnuts right.