Today's Chip Paper

Yup it's probably the server or a site update, a new home page perhaps.

The system hosting www.pasoti.co.uk is up, so no domain or DNS problems, but the web server is refusing connections:

$ ping www.pasoti.co.uk
PING www.pasoti.co.uk (82.145.41.8 ) : 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 82.145.41.8: icmp_seq=0 ttl=52 time=35.913 ms
64 bytes from 82.145.41.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=36.050 ms
64 bytes from 82.145.41.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=38.210 ms
64 bytes from 82.145.41.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=72.445 ms
^C
--- www.pasoti.co.uk ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 35.913/45.654/72.445/15.494 ms

$ telnet www.pasoti.co.uk 80
Trying 82.145.41.8...
telnet: connect to address 82.145.41.8: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host

It's official then, for the moment ATD IS the largest Argyle Internet forum, FACT!

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

GOB wrote:

For the great many that are viewing ATD, reading both sites and wandering just why there’s plenty of abuse thrown at the pasoti mods as Postey seems to be complaining about, here’s 10 FACTS!

1) The “old” Argyle Talk site/forum – Severe and very personal verbal abuse aimed at the users, the site taken over and closed despite the users having paid cash to run it, by - PASOTI MODERATORS!

2) ATD – Dozens upon dozens and if not hundreds of attempts to destabilise ATD by - PASOTI MODERATORS!

3) Personal insults publically displayed on pasoti and written by - PASOTI MODERATORS!

4) False pasoti accounts created that verbally abused ATD users and AFT leaders by – PASOTI MODERATORS!

5) Attempts to undermine ATD’s, Argyle relationship by emailing the club to slur ATD users by – PASOTI MODERATORS!

6) Attempts to slur ATD in the club programme and written by – PASOTI MODERATORS!

7) Telephone calls slurring ATD and its users from – PASOTI MODERATORS!

8 ) Dozens upon dozens of unjustified threats of legal action against ATD from – PASOTI MODERATORS!

9) False accounts created on ATD to threaten ATD users with violence, from – PASOTI MODERATORS!

10) Fklr accounts created to display private and confidential information regarding ATD users that some could argue were for reasons of “leverage” by – PASOTI MODERATORS!


And a lucky bonus ball....

11) Webb is completely innocent in all of this!

dont forget GOB the PASOTI MODERATORS also did all the above to the official forum that was on the clubs website and to ROTG. Hell even argyleinsider was given a tough time by them and Not forgeting Vital before 2faced got involved with it.

at the end of the time any Argyle forum could be created with good intentions or not to be simply another option to post on and it would still be targeted by PASOTI MODERATORS or to be more blunt Ian Newell because there can only be pasoti and nothing else.


I still do not believe fully the story that chris webb is innocent in the greenman posts. The IP addresses is too damming and despite the best attempts to justify it still cant clear him and still make him prime suspect. I feel pl2 is trying to take the heat off him with his confession.

still all chris has to do is log in once to clear his name and resolve this once and for all.

Vital was attacked whilst Posty ran it. He initially called himself PAul Williams on there and it was attacked by a lot of pasoti-ites. This coincided with the period where posty was anti-sturrock and there seemed to be a divide in the pasoti mod-room. Posty had a big fall out with Newell and eventually left pasoti. He also joined ATD for a couple of months, and then returned to pasoti, left ATD and Vital was seen as ok by pasoti. Since that time Vital has declined- it was the second biggest Argyle forum and, although small, the forum had a number of decent posters- I looked yesterday and there are about 4 posters and 1 (non vital) topics a week.

GOB wrote:

It's official then, for the moment ATD IS the largest Argyle Internet forum, FACT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jn8K8EA7-Q


Or maybe Napoleon has taken his ball and gone home

Mark Pedlar wrote:

Not sure I'd have all the qualifications!! Be fun to be a mod on both sites though!

How about a mod swap? - We would have nothing to fear on ATD, can pasoti boast the same?

Rickler wrote:

Mrrapson wrote:

Mike Searle wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

Mark, could you clear up the pasoti ownership issue whilst you're over here?

Mark, could you clear up pasoti whilst you're over there?

I think he has, an I the only one who can't get on there?

No...

Been down for at least six hours that I know of...

Sweeping under the rug??

I say... More likely installing wall to wall carpeting!

Not that you've been looking!?

The old ambassador news has been flooding out of Hp ain't it!

Our annual and democratic elections and our two named and respected keyholders, is totally open and transparent.

Pasoti's moderator appointment system and ownership remains at best smoke n mirrors and at worst a jungle.

Tringreen wrote:

GOB wrote:

It's official then, for the moment ATD IS the largest Argyle Internet forum, FACT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jn8K8EA7-Q


Or maybe Napoleon has taken his ball and gone home

Nice one Tringy, brought a titter to a misty English morn.

Pasoti down.... to the conspiracy machine!

I think people have forgotten that this thread was about the Janner award.

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/s-second-half-Greatest-Janners-nominations/story-18166373-detail/story.html

Quote :

CHRIS WEBB

GREAT BECAUSE: He is president of Plymouth Argyle and divisional representative of the Communication Workers Union.

WHY VOTE FOR HIM? "Because this (Greatest Janners vote) is not just about the past... Chris leads the workers' resistance against a hostile employer and Government hell-bent on driving down working people. (Chairman) James Brent gets the plaudits but there would be no Argyle if it was not for Chris Webb," says his passionate nominator.

SURPRISE ME: Once auditioned for a TV quiz show presented by former England and Arsenal footballer Ian Wright.

VOTE WEBB

Perhaps all the mods have banned themselves for breaking the rules that they themselves created?

The most corrupt Argyle forum is back

I blame Yea Man.

Mark Pedlar wrote:

Not sure I'd have all the qualifications!! Be fun to be a mod on both sites though!

If this were to actually occur, Cerbs would be back, straddling the divide, and in true Bobby Ewing style pronounce, 'It has all been a dream.................... '

Hugh Watt wrote:

Mark, could you clear up the pasoti ownership issue whilst you're over here?

PASOTI is owned by Dave Gadd. Anything from advertising on the site goes to him as far as I'm aware. The Mods have responsibility (as they do here) for anything which is posted or allowed to remain visible. The Mods have freedom of control although since April we have operated with a strict code of conduct for the use and administration of PASOTI. One breach of that code has occurred since it has been put in place. The mod was censured. It's far better since the events of 12 months ago. The team is a good one with a broad mix of views.

Mark Pedlar wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

Mark, could you clear up the pasoti ownership issue whilst you're over here?

PASOTI is owned by Dave Gadd. Anything from advertising on the site goes to him as far as I'm aware. The Mods have responsibility (as they do here) for anything which is posted or allowed to remain visible. The Mods have freedom of control although since April we have operated with a strict code of conduct for the use and administration of PASOTI. One breach of that code has occurred since it has been put in place. The mod was censured. It's far better since the events of 12 months ago. The team is a good one with a broad mix of views.

How do I apply to become a mod?

Yea Man wrote:

Mark Pedlar wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

Mark, could you clear up the pasoti ownership issue whilst you're over here?

PASOTI is owned by Dave Gadd. Anything from advertising on the site goes to him as far as I'm aware. The Mods have responsibility (as they do here) for anything which is posted or allowed to remain visible. The Mods have freedom of control although since April we have operated with a strict code of conduct for the use and administration of PASOTI. One breach of that code has occurred since it has been put in place. The mod was censured. It's far better since the events of 12 months ago. The team is a good one with a broad mix of views.

How do I apply to become a mod?

The same way that Posty did

Mark I have a question for you. Does ijn still access to the mod room on pasoti.

lawnmowerman wrote:

Mark I have a question for you. Does ijn still access to the mod room on pasoti.

ill add to this why is he known to be owner if mr gadd still owns it as you say?

Mark Pedlar wrote: PASOTI is owned by Dave Gadd. Anything from advertising on the site goes to him as far as I'm aware. The Mods have responsibility (as they do here) for anything which is posted or allowed to remain visible. The Mods have freedom of control although since April we have operated with a strict code of conduct for the use and administration of PASOTI. One breach of that code has occurred since it has been put in place. The mod was censured. It's far better since the events of 12 months ago. The team is a good one with a broad mix of views.




Thank you for your statement Mark. So , why does Ian Newell not only refer to himself as 'co owner' but also seems to be immune to Pasoti conduct rules ? And why did Ponty, and I think yourself, recently state that the mods 'owned Pasoti'.

Many other posters, like myself , were banned for doing nothing other than not toeing the party line.

Would you not think that such spurious bannings, in the past, should now be repealed , particularly in light of the currently popular view that we should,'End this and move on ?'

It will not 'end' until Pasoti is demonstrably fair and open, even if not democratic.

Could you also tell us how Pasoti mods are adopted ie who does the inviting ?

The Mod room's been stable since IJN went. One or two are rare posters and because some of the Mods live and post abroad quick decision making is not always possible because we try to hear all views.

IJN has been disciplined recently and is not imune to action. He is not a member of the Mod team, he is not a co-owner and does not have access to the mod room. Of course he has friends who are mods but that doesn't affect the decision making and action.

Mark Pedlar wrote:

The Mod room's been stable since IJN went. One or two are rare posters and because some of the Mods live and post abroad quick decision making is not always possible because we try to hear all views.

IJN has been disciplined recently and is not imune to action. He is not a member of the Mod team, he is not a co-owner and does not have access to the mod room. Of course he has friends who are mods but that doesn't affect the decision making and action.

Fvckin hell you'll be telling us the moon is made of cheese next! look how far you got when you tried to get shot of him, though i applaud you for trying.

Since Newell has broken practically every rule pasoti has, why hasn't Newell been banned? There are many others who have been banned for far less!

Respect to MP for having the front to come onto ATD and attempt to answer a few questions but there's so much sh** I think he'll have his work cut out but anyway, Mark how are pasoti mods selected and how have they been selected in the past?

Do you consider it appropriate that a full and public apology should be made for the distress caused to ATD's moderators in the club programme, on pasoti and also on ATD, from the pasoti moderators who have carried out a campaign against ATD?

Mark Pedlar wrote:

The Mod room's been stable since IJN went. One or two are rare posters and because some of the Mods live and post abroad quick decision making is not always possible because we try to hear all views.

IJN has been disciplined recently and is not imune to action. He is not a member of the Mod team, he is not a co-owner and does not have access to the mod room. Of course he has friends who are mods but that doesn't affect the decision making and action.

Thanks for that. What about my other questions Mark ?

If Pasoti is to be a uniting presence it has to be open about the mod selection/removal process and it has to welcome everyone............ a fresh start ?