Today's Chip Paper

sorry but the only one who needs to say yes it was or not it wasnt is chris webb.

Why is sharing the IP with Pasoti going to solve the mystery?

Do they have some computer expert who can trace an IP to an exact address?

Why do Pasoti think they're the elite and everyone should bow down to them and do as they say?

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

sorry but the only one who needs to say yes it was or not it wasnt is chris webb.

Nail on head!

Of course he could have helped ATD and Argyle fans by simply responding to the dozens upon dozens of request to supply his IP.

This is doing wonders for our viewing figures

IJN wrote:

Plus me being accused of abuse by PM. Where will it every end Keith?

Wouldn't be the first time you've used the PM system to send PM's you shouldn't though is it?

A bit like the time you sent PM's around Pasoti about Gareth and Andy in an attempt to undermine them and the trust, again.

Shame that somebody didn't take too kindly to it and made it known you were doing it.

W@nka

knecht wrote:

I don't fully understand the technicalities, so apologies if I have got this wrong.

To be fair, it is perfectly possible for someone to have many ip addresses even when they always post from the same computer & place each time. I am one of those. Mr Searle, lawnmowerman & Tring on this page also fall into that category. There are many people on here with many different ip addresses.

Similarly an ip address doesn't give a clear indication of geographic location.

It is even possible for someone's post to be routed via a proxy without actively seeking that out.

The evidence though is compelling that Mr Webb is being flexible with the truth. When Greenman's ip address was banned, the mods at that time discovered that Chris's own home ip was no longer working. He has since refused to supply his ip address despite many requests to do so. The coincidence of three posts from the same location with consecutive numbering - two from The President & one from Greenman - is too much.

The reason my ip address keeps changing is because during the day i post from my phone. With my job i`am always mobile. I can be in dobwalls or ivybridge or anywhere in between. When using a mobile device it depends which transmitter you are connected to. Also each transmitter has multi ips but can be tracked from what I have been told.

For chris and greenman to post from the same proxy server is too much of a coincidence. If chris was totally innocent with all this he would of been falling over himself to prove he has nothing to hide. Sadly chris has not been forth coming with the offer of help to clear his name.

Webb should resign but Jesus, can you imagine his farewell crocodile tears and the anti ATD drama speech?

GOB wrote:

Webb should resign but Jesus, can you imagine his farewell crocodile tears and the anti ATD drama speech?

Why should Chris resign? Nothing has been proven.

Far the same reason you did Wozzer

Larrieu for president.

GOB wrote:

Far the same reason you did Wozzer

But I was guilty.

wozzer wrote:

GOB wrote:

Far the same reason you did Wozzer

But I was guilty.

webb was another of your deepthroat pals which he denied then admitted, not much of a track record in telling the truth has he?

wozzer wrote:

GOB wrote:

Far the same reason you did Wozzer

But I was guilty.

But you were only guilty of using ONE account a couple of times.

The club president should not be involved in these kind of scandals and games.

Dogger, windsor boy and deepthroat are three so far that have been admitted to.

It isn't jealousy despite what Newell wants to call it, it's people pissed off with the underhand games being played by people highly connected to the club.

Even a feckin director is attacking his clubs paying customers from behind an anonymous account.

It's not right.

Yea Man wrote:

Larrieu for president.

Good idea.

wozzer wrote:

GOB wrote:

Far the same reason you did Wozzer

But I was guilty.

As is Webb, by his own admission.

Eventually

Ponty has just asked Newell if he thinks he has ever been greenman on ATD.

Newell replies no basically.

SO WHY THEN NEWELL, DID YOU TELL FRANK OVER THE TELEPHONE ON MORE THAB ONE OCCASION THAT YOU THOUGHT GREENMAN WAS PONTY POSTING WHEN PISSED?

I'm sure frank will clarify that when he is next on.

Newell you are a lying barsteward.

Having thought about it a bit more I would actually trust Knecht/Frank to liase with Mark Pedlar to determine whether the IP addresses used by the ATD Greenman account do actually match any of the IP addresses used by anybody on Pasoti.

We can be fairly sure that at least one of the ATD Greenman posters must have posted on Pasoti.

This can only really be done if Mark Pedlar is willing to reveal to Knecht/Frank the name of any Pasoti account(s) that match the ATD Greenman IPs.

It's possible that ATD Greenman only used proxy servers on both sites of course.

Yea Man wrote:

Ponty has just asked Newell if he thinks he has ever been greenman on ATD.

Newell replies no basically.

SO WHY THEN NEWELL, DID YOU TELL FRANK OVER THE TELEPHONE ON MORE THAB ONE OCCASION THAT YOU THOUGHT GREENMAN WAS PONTY POSTING WHEN PISSED?

I'm sure frank will clarify that when he is next on.

Newell you are a lying barsteward.

"It might be Ponty when he is pissed" were his exact words if I remember correctly.

Mike Searle wrote:

Having thought about it a bit more I would actually trust Knecht/Frank to liase with Mark Pedlar to determine whether the IP addresses used by the ATD Greenman account do actually match any of the IP addresses used by anybody on Pasoti.

We can be fairly sure that at least one of the ATD Greenman posters must have posted on Pasoti.

This can only really be done if Mark Pedlar is willing to reveal to Knecht/Frank the name of any Pasoti account(s) that match the ATD Greenman IPs.

It's possible that ATD Greenman only used proxy servers on both sites of course.

Greenman has used mobile phones, proxy/hotspot and an ISP from a virgin media address in Devon.

I love the way Newell is trying to turn it around now on me

Yes I did go to Tiverton and tell him that I had some tasty mates in Plymouth, that's how I got his home address, but if there was going to be any kicking Newell's fat ass it would've been by me and not hired thigs comment removed by the mods with Jock's agreement.

After having my mothers personal details passed around on the GT's coach to Morecambe, as Newell delighted in telling the world on Cerbs short lived site, he thought it hilarious then.

He found it really funny being the one to announce that he knew all about the PI, and that it was Lee Jameson and Tony Hooper, two founder members of the PASB, sniffing around and finding my disabled mothers name, address and telephone number.

Yes he said that he told Jameson that he was out of order, but he delighted in telling me all about it with his big toothy smilies. And this is the crux of it. Once again it's Newell's mates doing things with Newell's knowledge. He is always involved in the shit. It was him who posted as Deepthroat, and gave the password to others to post on the account, others like the club president and various other friends. It's a measure of the guy that all these "real friends" of his are always the ones involved in shady business.

He tried making out that he and Tony Hooper weren't friends, something about Hooper ogling a photo of his wife in a bikini which Hooper saw on the Newell Files, otherwise known as Ian Newell's Flickr account. Along with some pretty creepy stuff like Cobi Budge's medical details in an e-mail, Ricklers home address in Los Angeles and a text to his buddy asking him to "sort" Rickler, with a virus planted in his e-mail address so he couldn't open any e-mails.

There were dozens and dozens of screenshots of incriminating stuff which showed Newell to be an obsessive mental case basically, texts and e-mails he saved from Ridsdale, Brent etc. Screenshots showing that Wozzer had posted as Deepthroat. Why did he need to save that screenshot but not the one which showed his good buddies posting as Deepthroat? Because it was a nice thing to have on Wozzer for the future.

Photo's of ATD posters. One of Cerbera ffs. What do you think he wanted the one of you for Cerbs? Apparently the one of Chemical Ali was in case CA called him fat again! What were you going to do with it fatty? Give it to the same guy you paid to go around to Paul Thomas' place? Teach CA a lesson as well?

Page after page of screenshots of personal information Newell has stored on people for future use. He knows every little detail about people he is going to use it against.

So yes fatman I did quote your home address to you and you didn't feckin like it did you? Not quite as feckin funny when the shoe's on the other foot is it?

And this came AFTER the shit you posted on ADT supposedly about me, and this came after you tried stitching me up over the whole Wrathall shit, which had you phoning the mods here almost in tears shitting yourself because the person who invited Wrathall to Home Park, who you called a cnut, was going to know that it was you who dropped him in it. When I helped get it all removed from here and Exeweb because although I thought you were a cnut for doing it, I didn't want you to come to any harm.

And back to the meeting at Tiverton, you know the one before our non-existant telephone conversation, another instance of his compulsive lying, where you swore blind, along with Chris Webb, that you knew who was posting as Greenman and it was Sean Rapson, no doubt about it, both of you swearing it was Sean and you knew it as a fact!

So your's and Webb's pleas of innocence at the moment are worth feck all. You've been exposed as lying God knows how many times, so has Chris Webb.

Yes you feckin helped "save" Argyle blah blah blah, but you're a pair of cnuts, lying cnuts. Your son gets my e-mail address and makes threats to me, 5 or 6 different e-mails threatening me, but according to you he was just quoting lines from a film to me? Do you think everyone is as thick as you are fat and ugly? Another load of old bollocks from Ian Newell and yet he expects people to believe him about other things? You've been found lying so many bloody times Newell, who the feck would take your word for anything now?

You associate with Dane Bunney, see the conversation text Dane posted on here last week under some username like lost in France? You invited Dane to join you in posting on ADT, along with Jamesy and Daz amongst others, so no Newell I'm not totally innocent, but I'm nowhere near as feckin guilty as you.

Prick.

Oh and Cerbs, it's still the same old Chris I know, is it? What the devious liar or whatever you called him on here? Still the same Chris is it Cerbs? You've changed your feckin tune in a short space of time. Another prick.

If it's achieved anything, it's proven than IJN is elbow deep in all of this stuff.

Jock's been involved in the whole meeting in real life off the back of the PI issue and he did show Ian Newell proof that he too could track someone down - Newell's version is that it was a threat, Jock was simply saying in no uncertain terms - "I know who you are and where you live too" as an act of retaliation. I don't blame Jock for that.

Wozzer used the DT multi account - IJN gave him the password. Wozzer resigned and was criticised for it and he's essentially burnt his bridges with Trust.

Webb's posted as DT too - apparently at IJN's house as IJN gave him the password.

IJN was involved with Deadly lampshade.

IJN was involved with this spoof ADT site alongside a few others.

IJN was involved in the Windsor Boy multi-account.

All of that's now been freely verified by IJN.

Take a guess at the common demoninator.

Frank Bullitt wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

Ponty has just asked Newell if he thinks he has ever been greenman on ATD.

Newell replies no basically.

SO WHY THEN NEWELL, DID YOU TELL FRANK OVER THE TELEPHONE ON MORE THAB ONE OCCASION THAT YOU THOUGHT GREENMAN WAS PONTY POSTING WHEN PISSED?

I'm sure frank will clarify that when he is next on.

Newell you are a lying barsteward.

"It might be Ponty when he is pissed" were his exact words if I remember correctly.

His exact words to me at Tiverton were "I honestly thought it was Ponty having a laugh when he was pissed until I found out it was Sean, and it really shocked me that it was Sean" Chris Webb also agreed that it shocked him but it was definitely Sean. Newell repeated this about it maybe Ponty when he was pissed, but this was during our non-existent phone conversation. So more Newell lies, but this time to his good buddy Ponty.

Newell is very, very good at blaming others. Water off a ducks back as long as it clears his name.

Chris Webb told us Newell had been told to get off the forums or lose his AAA pass.

Newell told us he thinks Greenman is Ponty posting when pissed.

What a pair of REAL friends they are.

hairy j wrote:

If it's achieved anything, it's proven than IJN is elbow deep in all of this stuff.

Jock's been involved in the whole meeting in real life off the back of the PI issue and he did show Ian Newell proof that he too could track someone down - Newell's version is that it was a threat, Jock was simply saying in no uncertain terms - "I know who you are and where you live too" as an act of retaliation. I don't blame Jock for that.

Wozzer used the DT multi account - IJN gave him the password. Wozzer resigned and was criticised for it and he's essentially burnt his bridges with Trust.

Webb's posted as DT too - apparently at IJN's house as IJN gave him the password.

IJN was involved with Deadly lampshade.

IJN was involved with this spoof ADT site alongside a few others.

IJN was involved in the Windsor Boy multi-account.

All of that's now been freely verified by IJN.

Take a guess at the common demoninator.

Spot on Hairy. And we've crossed swords about the way I speak about Newell and you have thought that a lot of the stuff being attributed to Newell couldn't possibly be true. It is, and he will lie through his teeth over and over again about it.

I know Hairy gets some stick on both sites, but most of his posts that annoy people are piss-taking posts, underneath it all he's one of the more sensible posters if that makes sense? Rational might be a better word.