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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:16 pm | |
| Where's the good nature of fiscally sound retirees volunteering to do work for a private company that some people could be employed properly to perform ? I don't understand that concept. This is how some people would want to run a lot of public services ... believe me... they're trying to effect it. |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:18 pm | |
| I have a feeling a few stories may come out regarding Newell's opinions that he has been directing at one or two of the staff regarding their abilities. |
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Czarcasm
Posts : 10244 Join date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:18 pm | |
| - Nick Wall wrote:
- Wow, there are some truly heartless people posting on pasoti about this.
"Brent has to take tough decisions" "how many work in the media department anyway?" "Brent is an experienced and successful businessman, he knows what he's doing"
Indeed he does.
As others have mentioned this is where Brent's move to make Webb one of the family pays off. I would love to see Chris' reaction to 10 sudden redundancies at Royal Mail. If he does not react, and I mean more than simple pleasantries and a food parcel then he is simply a Mon-Fri 9am-5pm Trade Unionist. His conscience should be available on Ebay any day soon. I'm afraid that item was sold (out) some time last year. |
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Czarcasm
Posts : 10244 Join date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:20 pm | |
| - Dingle wrote:
- IF there were deemed to be too many backroom staff employed, why didn't they redecorate the Far Post Club and the media room, send out the season tickets, put up hanging baskets etc. rather than relying on the good nature of the fans.
This is a really great point, well made. It ought to form part of an email winging its way to Brent - and it will. |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:22 pm | |
| - Nick Wall wrote:
- Wow, there are some truly heartless people posting on pasoti about this.
"Brent has to take tough decisions" "how many work in the media department anyway?" "Brent is an experienced and successful businessman, he knows what he's doing"
Indeed he does.
As others have mentioned this is where Brent's move to make Webb one of the family pays off. I would love to see Chris' reaction to 10 sudden redundancies at Royal Mail. If he does not react, and I mean more than simple pleasantries and a food parcel then he is simply a Mon-Fri 9am-5pm Trade Unionist. His conscience should be available on Ebay any day soon.
Postmen in Bristol are planning to go on strike before Christmas, due to the heavier workload they are expected to deliver! At Christmas? Really a heavier workload? C'mon comrades they cannot treat us like this I won't allow it. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:27 pm | |
| Camerons "Big Society" people lose their jobs and we all volunteer to fill the gap for nothing.....government policy....don't you just love it. |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:37 pm | |
| And there's that wonderful comment from rich boy that the kids of Plymouth will need their Forza Verde because they'll need a flag to belong to and something to do, as they're likely to be unemployed in the future. He's all heart thay guy.
So there you have it, sweep the streets of Plymouth for nothing in the morning, and praise our saviour at Home Park in the afternoon. It really is sinister. |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:38 pm | |
| Come on then Webb Lets hear it for the staff
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akagreengull Admin
Posts : 7624 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 68 Location : Mutant Abbot
| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:39 pm | |
| WHO THE HELL TRUSTS A BANKER ANYWAY! |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:45 pm | |
| Speccy really gets it, now the staff are really getting it, free finacial advise mr banker, get rid of fletcher hourihane the fireman lowry the third goalkeeper chadwick and replace with tin of beans( something to eat while working out how much money you would save) |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:46 pm | |
| We all know that there will still be enough people who will rally to the cause, roll their sleeves up and help out in any way they can. Look at me earlier saying I would make a donation?
There are enough ZeeZan's, Sue Pollards, OllieArgyle's who will volunteer to do the little jobs the staff about to be dumped could be doing.
There will be bucket rattling, shirt auctions, maybe even Nikkk making a huge donation or two to soften the blow, but it's not the point. There are millions of £'s going to be made by James Brent's companies out of owning the club, so these 10 jobs, which for the people on Pasoti saying it's good business sense etc wouldn't be quite such feckin good business if it were their firm laying them off, don't HAVE to go.
It might streamline the club and make it more efficient, especially when envelope stuffing and litter picking can be arranged free of charge with the right people saying it's a good idea.
Brent reckons Fletcher has a budget capable of challenging for promotion and we're 18th in the league? Here's a novel idea, why not pay these staff being binned half the money Fletcher, Larrieu and Nancekivel are on, and see if they can't improve productivity on the pitch? Couldn't do much bloody worse yet Fletcher's job is safe?
feck off Brent! |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:48 pm | |
| From Hooper the snooper - Pafcintheplace wrote:
- JB said recently that Argyle are in 'fine fettle' financially going forward or words to that effect.
I suspect this is restructure and efficiency motivated, not because there's cash shortages. Speaking from a business point of view, it's a good opportunity to get rid of some poorly performing staff.
As an aside, how many people work in the media/comms department? 2 _________________ PASB Nominee (Tony Hooper) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:50 pm | |
| - Quote :
- Ian Newell
Post subject: Re: "Having taken the decision to honour season tickets"Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:22 pm
Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:24 pm teign green wrote: Ian wrote: Be honest chaps, after what they did to the staff yesterday, perhaps we should be 'grateful'.
being honest they should be grateful to get my business next season also!!!
They (the Administrators) don't give a flying fig TG.
It's not their job to worry about that. |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:51 pm | |
| Hooper keeps rasing the bar in Twatery! |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:57 pm | |
| - GOB wrote:
- I have a feeling a few stories may come out regarding Newell's opinions that he has been directing at one or two of the staff regarding their abilities.
Spill the beans |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:00 pm | |
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- PL2 3DQ wrote:
One thing is for sure, if and when the Rescue Bid is needed it will be all hands to the pump, a surge of positivity will happen and a feeling of pride in our club will return. |
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Dougie
Posts : 3191 Join date : 2011-12-02
| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:01 pm | |
| Here's a way to save money. Close down the Presidents lounge.
Brents little snippet about the crowds not reaching break-even was a fore runner to this wasn't it. It's the fans what done it obviously. With crowds as high as they are someone made an almighty cock up. What with the FES sponsorship and the tv money this week the coffers must have been filled somewhat. Perhaps it it being used to finance the redundancy payments, which I hope by the way are higher than the statutory minimum and recognises total lenghth of service not just from when the new co was formed. Also all those people being let go should get there deferred wages now. To hell with any FA rules that say players and staff must be treated in the same way. That at least would be a 'first in football' that, albeit reluctantly, I could put my name to.
It will be intreseting to see where the cuts are. Some people would be sad to see the say the catering/cheffy type people go and with it there opportunity to pop up to Home Park during the week to sample their wares (it's interesting to keep an eye on people's twitter feeds).
No amount of spin will make this seem like anything but a kick in the teeth. If the club can't afford them now it couldn't afford them a year ago. And less wages will certainly won't do Brents pension pot any harm. Fat cats and their pension eh. Someone should really speak out against that. Oh they already have. But turn a blind eye when it's close to home.
Seething doesn't quite cover it. Maybe all the hassling saved a job or two or maybe not. Equally working for free for the club for 20 or 30 hours a week will adequately cover a full time position. |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:03 pm | |
| Why do some of you claim to know what Ian Newell and Chris are thinking or doing ? They could be very unhappy about this . |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:04 pm | |
| - Andy_Symons wrote:
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The whole reason that Brent appointed Webb as President was so that he would be completely emasculated in situations like this. He can't be seen to bite the hand that feeds him, can he?
A full-time Trade Union employee who sells out for personal gain and leaves ordinary workers high and dry. It happens all the time. Sod you Symonds! I was just about to post exactly the same thing! I hope that the Union leader has a crisis of conscience over this! As I've posted elsewhere, one question: Are you expecting to take more out of our club than you put in? If the answer is "Yes" then this action is unacceptable. |
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david_fisher
Posts : 143 Join date : 2011-06-02 Location : Plymouth
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Sir Francis Drake
Posts : 7461 Join date : 2011-12-03 Age : 33 Location : Nr Panama
| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:06 pm | |
| - Chemical Ali wrote:
- If this goes through, I wonder if the pro-Brents (I'm 50:50) will still see him as honourable- presumably some of the 10 staff went 9-10 months without pay so the club could survive?
Why is money being wasted on pointless shite like the minimally used Family area, the Forza Verde committee and (its add ons), fireman helmets and the murals? Add PASB to the list. |
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Dougie
Posts : 3191 Join date : 2011-12-02
| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:07 pm | |
| - Grumpy wrote:
- From Hooper the snooper
- Pafcintheplace wrote:
- JB said recently that Argyle are in 'fine fettle' financially going forward or words to that effect.
I suspect this is restructure and efficiency motivated, not because there's cash shortages. Speaking from a business point of view, it's a good opportunity to get rid of some poorly performing staff.
As an aside, how many people work in the media/comms department? 2
_________________ PASB Nominee (Tony Hooper) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Oh there's the spin. There's the narrative that will be espoused to quell the masses. Poorly performing staff? It's illegal to use redundancy to get rid of poorly performing staff. A job is redundant not a person. Hooper grasp of situations and humanity is truly lacking. Opportunist twonk. |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:08 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Redundancies at Argyle? Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:09 pm | |
| - greengenes wrote:
- Why do some of you claim to know what Ian Newell and Chris are thinking or doing ? They could be very unhappy about this .
Then let's hear them say as much. |
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