Chris Webb and Ian Newell are absent

hairy j wrote:

Rickler wrote:

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

I will say it again.

It is a pity CW doesn't come on here and post stuff like that. He would be better thought of if he did!

No he wouldn't.

It would be the stuff that he refuses to talk about that would make him "better thought of"..

And, I'm not talking about his IP address....

This is true. Chris Webb is a World renowned squirrel expert and he never mentions that - we could all learn more about squirrels if he did but he just refuses to even mention it.

Go on Rickler - what should he be discussing?

I'm off to bed...

But one to get you started....

He should be discussing why many of the good ideas submitted to him that would have benefited the setting up of the PASB were ignored.

Even now... The PASB '2012 deliverence comittee' despite every effort it has made - has no junior member to run in its election. Cobi volunteered to step in and run. Chris Webb won't entertain the idea.

Why not?

Cobi is a diehard young fan and a grammar school boy. Maybe the latter is the reason. Educated w@nker !

From what I've heard Where's Webby seems particularly adept at stopping people contributing to the club unless they see things his way.

He's no President, no man of the people, no figurehead of wisdom and integrity, he's just a member of the Home Park Politburo !

The peasants will soon be revolting.

I would like to see Chris Webb's dental records..............................just for a laugh

GOB wrote:

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You're quite right Knecht, this is all a bit pasoti, but the actions of the two (three if you include Brent) is a bit stomach churningly distasteful to say the least.

What I do know is that Newell has been a passionate fan for a great many years and I would defend him on that, but I think his obsessive demand for personal recognition has taken him to levels that most people wouldn't sink to even for money, let alone social status or even a combination of the two. He may have made his dream come true and gained a position in his beloved directors box but at what cost, not only to him but also to others? - I find that quite sad.

As for Webb being a fan...as you say Knecht, what's the definition of being a fan? - I don't attend every match that we play and I haven't for many a year for various reasons, but neither do I attempt to paint a picture of being a Superfan that I believe Webb is guilty of to justify his status. Personally I think it makes no difference if he's a fan or not but it tells me something about his character if he wishes to portray that massage when it's not strictly true as per the perception that he is providing and, it's a trait that encourages distrust and questions motives.

Really, the only question to ask is are these two characters healthy for the club?

I would never question Newell's passion for PAFC because I know he oozes it, his downfall is his "at any cost" attitude and as has already been mentioned, even if it means relinquishing over 100 years of history in Football League. His bitterness towards others is also a big issue that I believe he would prioritise before the health of the club.

I think Webb saw an opportunity for some headline grabbing and he took it and it conveniently fitted in with a slight interest that he had with following PAFC, nothing more. Brent then offered him a few sweets of publicity and a public status that proved to much for Webb to turn down and Bob's your uncle, Brent gained a handy tool that would clear the decks for him and a nice development earner.

But the most interesting game play has still to be played out and when Brent decides that the pair are an embarrassing side issue and they are no longer needed, that's when the sparks will start to fly again, only Brent will be sipping G&Ts in the Caribbean somewhere and won't give a toss about Newell, Webb or PAFC.

Superbly and convincingly put. No disagreement from me.

And a damned good analysis from ChrisWebb of the situation. I don't like his Churchillian rhetoric at the end - and never have - but there is sense there.

Does anyone know which players could have been let go at the end of last season as their contracts had run out and who actually had their contract renewed?

Would paying off a contract count towards the 55% spending ceiling?

Nicked from pasoti (thanks to Ollie BG10)-

Out of Contract
Warren Feeney (Re-signed)
Maxime Blanchard (Re-signed)
Joe Lennox (Re-signed)
Ollie Chenoweth (Re-signed)
Durrell Berry (Re-signed)
Robbie Williams (Re-signed)
Jordan Copp (Signed Pro-Deal)
Isaac Vassell (Signed Pro-Deal)
Jed Harper-Penman (Signed Pro-Deal)
Carl Fletcher (Retired)
Romain Larrieu (Retired)
Luke Daley (Released)
Damien Johnson (Released)
Dan Hart (Released)
Jordan Pearce (Released)

Squad changes

Thanks, Ali.

In the circumstances we were in I'm not sure I would have a significant objection to those whose contracts we renewed. I'd have reservations about Feeney but his experience may have been useful. Blanchard - excellent business. Lennox - I hardly saw him (well, he is very little) but not sure about him but maybe one for the future. Chenoweth - one for the future. Berry - did well last season. Williams - did ok without exciting but with ATD's sponsorship he will come on with leaps and bounds.

So, it would have been a case of paying off some contracts in order to get new players in. Would that have cut what we were then allowed to spend?

It does seem that a creative midfield is lacking. And a tough scorer is also needed. Our already big squad would need to get bigger still! We need to loan a few out in order to bring others in.

I think we've only loaned one player out, so far, and that's Jed Harper Penman to Bideford for 3 months.

Does this indicate that the fringe youths are not seen as good enough by BSS/ BSN teams, or are teams of that level waiting for the transfer window to finish and then conduct their loan business?

So much of what Chris Webb is true but it's always masked in the mists of his previous positivity. Take pre season anyone could see how awful we were and that it was storing up problems for the season proper. Not the Pres everything was hunky dory team building fitness getting shape testing. Take the player signings (and I'll gloss over stay off the pitch if you want a decent striker) - The Prez said Fletch got the very players he was after. Well if that was the case it's not surprising the fans are underwhelmed. Take his backing for Fletcher forming a side to play like West Ham then signing Feeney Chadwick and Williams.

Now positivity can be a great thing but when it flies in the face of common sense (and even the excerpts of the D&R game on GOS see him bigging up an awful display) and the evidence of your own eyes it's very wearing and leads one not place (or at least devalues) value on anything his says.

That post from Chris Webb is nothing less than I'd expect...

...from someone who works for the club.

Mock Cuncher wrote:

That post from Chris Webb is nothing less than I'd expect...

...from someone who works for the club.

I wonder if he'd like to explain in Churchillian fashion if he likes, why Peggy was dropped from the programme ? I'm sure he knows.

He knows alright....

As he was boasting privately that he had a hand it it!!!

Rickler wrote:

He knows alright....

As he was boasting privately that he had a hand it it!!!

You didn't happen to get a screenshot did you?

I do as it happens....

Webb is a low life.

Rickler wrote:

I do as it happens....

Webb is a low life.

It would be a shame if you were to "accidently" put that up on here wouldn't it

did he say why it was done?

shonbo wrote:

did he say why it was done?

No...

But presumably because what Peggy writes, according to Chris is, " a load of shit".

I will work on getting the authority to post the 'snapshot'.

Rickler wrote:

shonbo wrote:

did he say why it was done?

No...

But presumably because what Peggy writes, according to Chris is, " a load of shit".

I will work on getting the authority to post the 'snapshot'.

I give you authority

Sometimes it seems people have forgotten I'm a real person.

Please don't keep discussing my business without having the decency to run it past me first.

My apologies Peggy. No more from me on this.

Peggy wrote:

Sometimes it seems people have forgotten I'm a real person.

Please don't keep discussing my business without having the decency to run it past me first.

Pity you didn't heed your own advice concerning me before you wrote your 'letter'.

That letter was never sent, Rickler. Check with the office if you want.

Well thanks for clearing that up. I must have asked Andy Symons at least half a dozen times, but he doesn't do the 'curtesy of replies'.

But there was 'contact' made though, wasn't there? And things were said....

Still water under the bridge now..

As for this latest snapshot... It doesn't reflect badly on you.

Rickler wrote:

Well thanks for clearing that up. I must have asked Andy Symons at least half a dozen times, but he doesn't do the 'curtesy of replies'.

But there was 'contact' made though, wasn't there? And things were said....

Still water under the bridge now..

As for this latest snapshot... It doesn't reflect badly on you.

Well if you want to know if I've done something, why not ask me?

And no, 'contact' was not made. And no, things weren't said. The only time I've ever spoken to or had any contact with James Brent was at the Q&A.

Back on topic, I don't care if the information you've got reflects badly on me or not. As I said, this is my business and the least anybody could do before posting about it is to talk to me.

Sorry Peggy, I got a bit carried away with asking Rickler to post the screenshot but in my defence the whole thing stinks and if there's proof that the so called president of the club has behaved in such a cowardly way then the fanbase should be made aware.

But, I didn't consider your feelings in this and I apologise to you for not doing so.