EU warns it will not accept pig in a poke Brexit.

I worked in Germany briefly in the eighties and the Germans despised the Turks and used them shamelessly for cheap Labour.

Vote Leave said that Turkey is joining the EU, are you insinuating that Putin is a liar?

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seadog wrote:

Vote Leave said that Turkey is joining the EU, are you insinuating that Putin is a liar?

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Once again it's another question asked while continuing a big fat zero of those I ask of you - people notice these things.

Why bother myself with your link when I can reply with this, which I hope our readers view in it's entirety.

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No link from me just an example of Project Fear.

seadog wrote:

No link from me just an example of Project Fear.

Project fear! You could easily have said I used 'Project Fear' when I first suggested how Putin would react six months before he did. No, if you are to quote project fear at me then I must ask you to put flesh on the bones so I and others know fully what your opinion or worries are?

I cannot give a flying feck about you or your Gammon views, the sooner the tory scum are fecked off forever the better.

Leaving the EU has been a total feck up, the P&O debacle just the latest manifestation. 800 jobs in the UK for which only EU residents are allowed to apply for, lol, taking back control.

Gammon, Tory, .Ruskis gobble gobble lol. Get over it doggers you can't win any argument so resort to the echos.

lol

seadog wrote:

I cannot give a flying feck about you or your Gammon views, the sooner the tory scum are fecked off forever the better.

Leaving the EU has been a total feck up, the P&O debacle just the latest manifestation. 800 jobs in the UK for which only EU residents are allowed to apply for, lol, taking back control.

Of course you can't, but then again I'm certainly interested in your views especially that of France and Germany selling arms to Russia while breaking an EU embargo banning the sale of such items. What's your take on it Dogger, were the Franco/Germans right in pocketing lots of filthy lucre or were they beneath contempt by providing the means by which the Russians and Ukrainians could obliterate each other in a manner as seen on our television sets. Try stepping out of character for once and give ATD your views you fraud.

Leaving the EU caused P&O debacle: Desperate stakes eh Dogger? There ain't a level you wouldn't duck under is there.

P&O Ferries is not a British owned company. It belongs to DP World an Emirati multinational logistic company based in Dubai and the head honcho is Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem. Also, as far back the beginning of October last year P&O were loss making due to "the extended impact of Covid-19"
You got that dumbum? Not brexit but bleeding Covid. [but you knew that anyway]

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Despite the fact that what P&O did being illegal, and would have been illegal in the EU same as it is now but the Arab owner did it anyway. If Seadog stubbed his toe it would be blamed on Brexit or one of us Gammons.

The ad for P&O crew from the Maltese Agency.

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What should happen now is all the crews sacked and everyone else in that line of work needs to apply multiple times and I am talking 30, 40 or more times until the system collapses.

seadog wrote:

The ad for P&O crew from the Maltese Agency.

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P&O Ferries and P&O Cruises have different owners which why the Cruise Line are concerned at the abuse they have been getting from the public. I'm happy to clear that up on ATD.

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As for the Ferries, apparently Columbian national crew had be bussed to Dover by the 'Dubai' owners the same day the redundancy notices went out.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Despite the fact that what P&O did being illegal, and would have been illegal in the EU same as it is now but the Arab owner did it anyway. If Seadog stubbed his toe it would be blamed on Brexit or one of us Gammons.

Have you noticed that yet again he can't be drawn to voice an opinion on the actions of those VIP 'gang of two' or indeed the lack of punishment or even criticism from the EU grand masters. As you say, he'll blame Brexit at the drop of a hat but stubbornly stay silent on their wrongdoings.

Regarding dogger's link. anyone notice what's written on the back of the seaman's white overalls.

seadog wrote:

The ad for P&O crew from the Maltese Agency.

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Ahh I see, the penny has just dropped, so what you are saying is that if we were still in the EU then our semen could apply for the poorly paid jobs offered by the Arab firm who doesn't value their workers at all? What a loss leaving the EU has been.

That is of course one way of looking at it, but the Dutch flagged ships owned by P&O have not been affected, they continue as before under EU law.

P&O have made a feck up here but the loss of reputation will soon be forgotten as long as they are cheaper than the rest.

Cheap skilled crew are a myth, the UK crew who take the bribe will have to train a continual stream of cheap low skilled inexperienced crew.

Once these incomers have enough training and experience they will move on to better paid companies and be replaced by another inexperienced agency recruit.

This is just a stop gap until they close altogether.

Nearly every house owning Goan I have ever met made their wedge working for P&O I don't think for one minute their love of cheap low skilled Labour started with Brexit. As I said they have broken UK law don't think for one minute the sheik respects the EU.

P&O Cruises has been an separate entity for a very long time.

The tories have shown their disregard for laws, now P&O Ferries have too.

seadog wrote:

That is of course one way of looking at it, but the Dutch flagged ships owned by P&O have not been affected, they continue as before under EU law.

Do the Dutch operate cross channel ferries? I've looked but can find no evidence. British flagged ships owned by P&O Carnival don't appear to have any crew disruptions either and I spotted at least 3 liners anchored in Weymouth bay.

seadog wrote:

The tories have shown their disregard for laws, now P&O Ferries have too.

They have indeed regarding those Downing Street parties. Also, how could Owen Paterson be so dumb as not to realise the uproar of being found out for lobbying the government on behalf of companies for such large cash payouts.

By the way, you spontaneously fingered the Tories - which many would feel they richly deserved, but 'once again' fail to condemn the Franco/German companies who also disregarded those selfsame laws by selling death-dealing arms to both sides of this truly evil conflict. Paterson's ill-gotten gains must have been a trifling sum compared with what those most favoured of nations pocketed.

Word on Radio 2 says that 90% of Ukrainian refugees want to live in the UK, obviously this will be unsustainable but maybe we could just swap them with all the remoaners that think the UK is such a shit place to live because they didn't get their way in a vote?

It wouldn’t stop them moaning!

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seadog wrote:

That is of course one way of looking at it, but the Dutch flagged ships owned by P&O have not been affected, they continue as before under EU law.

Do the Dutch operate cross channel ferries? I've looked but can find no evidence. British flagged ships owned by P&O Carnival don't appear to have any crew disruptions either and I spotted at least 3 liners anchored in Weymouth bay.

P&O Ferries operate at least two Dutch flag ships the Pride of Rotterdam, Hull to Holland and the Norbank from Liverpool to Dublin.

P&O Cruises is a division of Carnival Cruises and has been for many years, no connection with the ferry operation.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Word on Radio 2 says that 90% of Ukrainian refugees want to live in the UK, obviously this will be unsustainable but maybe we could just swap them with all the remoaners that think the UK is such a shit place to live because they didn't get their way in a vote?

You voted to keep people out, no matter where they're from.

Once a swivel eyed loon always a swivel eyed loon.

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Earwegoagain wrote:

Word on Radio 2 says that 90% of Ukrainian refugees want to live in the UK, obviously this will be unsustainable but maybe we could just swap them with all the remoaners that think the UK is such a shit place to live because they didn't get their way in a vote?

You voted to keep people out, no matter where they're from.

Once a swivel eyed loon always a swivel eyed loon.

No absolutely incorrect I always advocated allowing some foreign Labour in as I thought we would need it what I always advocated was a high wage economy so that people other than you didn't have their minimum wage dictated by the cost of living in Poland. Go back and check if you can be bothered my views have been very consistent.
So how many Ukrainians are you putting (or Putin) up then?