EU referendum...THE RESULT...and aftermath...

I'd be interested to hear Labours anti drone plan...

They aren't in Government Pat.

That's a shame, we could do with some of the expertise Labour demonstrated with the Eleven billion NHS IT fiasco being applied to the drone question.

No instead we're getting the expertise that saw a ferry contract being handed to firm that don't own any ships and lifted their T's and C's from an online takeaway firm and that have £16 billion on universal credit which still isn't fully rolled out.

Stay on topic eh?

Fight?

Oh per lease Hugh don't you start changing my views to suit yours. In case it missed you and all other remainers there is a concerted effort by MPs to not deliver the Brexit the majority of the public voted for. 
The good old MPs you are so in favour of denigrating as being unable to run a piss up in brewery do seem able to use every trick in the book to avoid a CLIFF EDGE NO DEAL TSUNAMI BREXIT WITH FLOODS PLAGUES OF FROGS AND PESTILENCE which will in effect end up either with no Brexit at all or a Brexit where we have no say in the EU but still pay to be a member and still with having no say over how we are governed. And you wonder why leavers (not just me) are enraged? 
It is not just the Tory government that are a disgrace there are probably only about five MPs in parliament with any morals or sense of public duty whatsoever and please don't think that 600 toffs voting for the interests of their old school chums, stock brokers and their banker mates down the club have any regard for you or yours you just seem to have fallen nicely in line with all the globalist non tax paying businesses and institutions that have already brought this once great country half way to its knees. Enjoy all the parliamentary support you get at the moment because once it's all over it will be back to channeling all your money that they can back up to the top of the pile.
So many experts yet so much nativity.

And what precisely is the Brexit the majority of the people voted for?

I know that only your view things count for anything and that the fount of all knowledge is based conversations you've had in your local, but we've had one leave voter on here (harve) say they voted leave but want to leave with a trade deal. Does his view count for anything?

Earwegoagain wrote:

So many experts yet so much nativity.

You'd struggle to find one wise man let alone 3 on this thread.

Here's what Leadsom said about Bercrow,


"What happened today was that the Speaker, instead of being the guardian of the rules, decided to unilaterally change the rules... It doesn't just damage me, it damages all of Parliament."



Yeh, yeh but it's Brexit innit? Any rule that helps defeat Brexit is good. The fact it drives a coach and horses through the present legislation doesn't matter it's all about defeating the racists.

Hugh Watt wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

So many experts yet so much nativity.

You'd struggle to find one wise man let alone 3 on this thread.        

Does Frankincensed count?

RHugh Watt wrote:

And what precisely is the Brexit the majority of the people voted for?

I know that only your view things count for anything and that the fount of all knowledge is based conversations you've had in your local, but we've had one leave voter on here (harve) say they voted leave but want to leave with a trade deal. Does his view count for anything?

I know the attention span of the British public is only about six weeks and the question was asked two years ago but the referendum question asked, shall we remain or leave the European Union?
It didn't say feck all about hard, soft, Norway, Brexit lite.... It was in or out. 
What should happen is that May gets her deal laughed out of the house and then we leave with no deal (ie actually leave the European union as the government promised to do before, during and after the referendum) in March. 
As for Harve it's tough but one person in a population of about eighty million doesn't mean feck all. People change their minds about things after elections it doesn't make the last election invalid.

I'm with Corbyn, we should be in AND out

You get that with May as well.

P and Go

P%O abandon UK Flag and flee to Cyprus for it's Dover ferries, taking back control.

Earwegoagain wrote:

RHugh Watt wrote:

And what precisely is the Brexit the majority of the people voted for?

I know that only your view things count for anything and that the fount of all knowledge is based conversations you've had in your local, but we've had one leave voter on here (harve) say they voted leave but want to leave with a trade deal. Does his view count for anything?

I know the attention span of the British public is only about six weeks and the question was asked two years ago but the referendum question asked, shall we remain or leave the European Union?
It didn't say feck all about hard, soft, Norway, Brexit lite.... It was in or out. 
What should happen is that May gets her deal laughed out of the house and then we leave with no deal (ie actually leave the European union as the government promised to do before, during and after the referendum) in March. 
As for Harve it's tough but one person in a population of about eighty million doesn't mean feck all. People change their minds about things after elections it doesn't make the last election invalid.

Actually during the referendum campaign it was mentioned on a number of occasions that we wouldn't leave the single market

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Norway and Switzerland were indeed held up in many places, including on here, as shining examples of nations thriving outside the EU.

In other news Mays deal is truly fecked to the point the Government will lose by over 200 votes which I understand will be the biggest commons defeat in history.

Meanwhile Jeremy Hunt, who's hat is very much in the ring should May not survive that defeat, has just confirmed that no deal is effectively dead on R4 Today just now. So deadlock.

Wake me up when this nightmare is over.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Wake me up when this nightmare is over.

+1

Why not copy the European Parliament which moves from Strasbourg to Brussels and back again on a monthly basis, we could be in for a month, then out then in then out...

The shit will hit the fan this week, big changes afoot.

This will drag on for longer than the mankover.

PatDunne wrote:

Why not copy the European Parliament which moves from Strasbourg to Brussels and back again on a monthly basis, we could be in for a month, then out then in then out...

Presumably we then do the hokey cokey, and we turn around?

A cock up of huge proportions by our esteemed political elite!!

Good to see Boris Johnson and Farage making total cnuts of themselves again when pressed with "Well what would you do?"

None of the Leave side has a feckin clue other than saying the people have been betrayed.

Tell me, what feckin deal do you think Boris or Nigel would have been able to get from the EU that would satisfy the people who voted leave? The answer is they would bluster and tub thump about Britain regaining control, whatever the feck that means in reality, but would have left Brussels with their tail between their legs just like May has.

If the people of Britain had been told how complicated and expensive leaving the EU would be I doubt very much they would have voted leave.

The Irish issue is not solvable and the cost of leaving the EU was always going to be huge but both Boris and Nigel try to insinuate they could do better when they are just bullshit merchants.

Seriously all the leavers could take up arms and storm Brussels all they want, the deal is still going to be the same so either put up with it OR come up with an alternative that has substance and doesn't just involve shouting and screaming and stamping your feet and repeating bollocks about taking back control and saying how much better off we will be after Brexit which is a downright lie.

I don't see Brexit happening within 5 years and the arguments will rage whoever is PM because Leavers were pedalled a huge lie.

Force Teresa May out tomorrow and who takes over? And how the feck will they be able to get a better deal? Serious Boris and Nigel should be shipped off to Brussels tomorrow and told not to come back until they have "Taken back control" I wouldn't hold your breath waiting on them riding over the horizon waving their union Jack's anytime soon though.

I thought Corbyn claims he can negotiate a better deal?