We won't be forced, the Tories will accept them gladly.
Accepted by OUR parliament!!!!!!
From the same document......
"The UK government is a major supporter of all three deals, however, given the secrecy surrounding the negotiations many MPs and MEPs are not aware of the dangers. That’s why it is essential that trade unions and other civil society organisations ensure that critical voices are heard in Westminster, the European and Scottish Parliaments, the Welsh and Northern Ireland assemblies. 1. Contact your MP, MEP, MSP or Assembly Member and raise these concerns about these agreements. Ask them to oppose the deals. 2. Get your branch to link up with other organisations locally which are campaigning against TTIP such as War on Want or Global Justice Now and then organise a public meeting, lobby your MP’s surgery and write to your local paper. 3. Spread the word about the dangers of TTIP, CETA and TiSA using social media such as Twitter ([You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]) and Facebook."
How can a deal be supported when you don't know what it is?
All this talk about the "unelected EU" forcing laws on us is just untrue. A convenient excuse/cover up for our politicians!!!!!
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Sir Francis Drake
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Cameron: the man who called the referendum - gone.
Johnson: the who campaigned for Leave - gone.
Farage: the man whose life ambition it was for us to have a referendum - gone.
It's as if they've all had a chance to consider where we are, thought "sod that for a game of soldiers" and have all cleared off leaving the mess to somebody else to cope with.
Gove is the last man standing and he's going to lose.
This could be the most pyrrhic of pyrrhic victories ever.
That's very nice of Nige. Really laying into the rest of Europe big time with the most gratuitous and unfriendly of speeches, before he upped stumps and just resigned. UK Plc will rue that speech of his for a very long time. Human beings don't like that sort of thing. Why couldn't he have done a Douglas Adams and just say thanks for all the fish. Short, simple, straight to the point, clever. Would have gone down in history as the best European political revenge one liner ever. No need to do what he did.
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The SNP are actively fighting TTIP, I am in contact with my MEP and MP, both SNP. there is no opposition south of the border just supine acceptance of the Tory edict as too many labour MPs are just pale blue Blairites.
That's very nice of Nige. Really laying into the rest of Europe big time with the most gratuitous and unfriendly of speeches, before he upped stumps and just resigned. UK Plc will rue that speech of his for a very long time. Human beings don't like that sort of thing. Why couldn't he have done a Douglas Adams and just say thanks for all the fish. Short, simple, straight to the point, clever. Would have gone down in history as the best European political revenge one liner ever. No need to do what he did.
But he is staying on as an MEP for the next two years!!! I wonder if he will opt for his pension to be paid in pounds or euros?
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That's very nice of Nige. Really laying into the rest of Europe big time with the most gratuitous and unfriendly of speeches, before he upped stumps and just resigned. UK Plc will rue that speech of his for a very long time. Human beings don't like that sort of thing. Why couldn't he have done a Douglas Adams and just say thanks for all the fish. Short, simple, straight to the point, clever. Would have gone down in history as the best European political revenge one liner ever. No need to do what he did.
But he is staying on as an MEP for the next two years!!! I wonder if he will opt for his pension to be paid in pounds or euros?
Maybe something for wannabe worldwide farmer Jimmy Brent to ponder on when his next pension pot meeting comes up in the kitchen. Do Romania still use the lei or are they euroland ? Could be an in. I'm thinking of putting mine into pasties, but I'm not sure if I have enough freezers.
Sir Francis Drake
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Do you have any figures on how many of those 4.9 million Brits abroad are living in social housing, drawing benefits from the host country or living off organised crime?
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Subject: Re: EU referendum...THE RESULT...and aftermath... Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:33 am
Another pointless chart from Frannie. How many from each country are living outside their country but still in the EU. I know I'm not.
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Subject: Re: EU referendum...THE RESULT...and aftermath... Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:56 am
So, the coronation of the next PM begins. How times have changed with almost certainly the cabal of men in grey suits being booted out in favour of the devils in skirts. ( an enduring cinema memory in more innocent times. What a carry on ).
And if Leadsom wins, yet another tax bonanza for business to be paid for by it's workers, and those that used to work for them. Most amusing how Ossie Osborne is desperately trying to appeal to either of the devils. Caught between the devil and the blue sea is George.
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Subject: Re: EU referendum...THE RESULT...and aftermath... Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:39 am
Charlie Wood wrote:
Another pointless chart from Frannie. How many from each country are living outside their country but still in the EU. I know I'm not.
Google is your friend too.
Look it up.
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Subject: Re: EU referendum...THE RESULT...and aftermath... Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:20 am
Bank of England cuts counter-cyclical buffer on bank lending from 0.5% to 0%.
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Subject: Re: EU referendum...THE RESULT...and aftermath... Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:55 am
Sir Francis Drake wrote:
Charlie Wood wrote:
Another pointless chart from Frannie. How many from each country are living outside their country but still in the EU. I know I'm not.
Google is your friend too.
Look it up.
I've got far better things to do with my time, I was just pointing out another of your misleading stats. You'd have done well working for the Remain campaign. (In the wider world, not just on here).
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Subject: Re: EU referendum...THE RESULT...and aftermath... Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:59 am
Les Miserable wrote:
Do you have any figures on how many of those 4.9 million Brits abroad are living in social housing, drawing benefits from the host country or living off organised crime?
I would imagine there's a fair few Brits on the Costas living off the proceeds of crime.
Do you have any figures on how many of those 4.9 million Brits abroad are living in social housing, drawing benefits from the host country or living off organised crime?
I would imagine there's a fair few Brits on the Costas living off the proceeds of crime.
Undoubtedly, the Essex tongue is prevalent in those parts.
Do you have any figures on how many of those 4.9 million Brits abroad are living in social housing, drawing benefits from the host country or living off organised crime?