AFT meets with Tudor Evans about Higher Home Park

Dougie wrote:

The Snooper is back with his usual antitrustgynistic hotair.

I now know the trust were exactly right to do what they did.

He of course would have dealt with it totally differently.  Talked to the club, got answers from the club, agree the minutes from with the club, wait three months then the fans find out nothing more than the price of pasties is going up but can't tell by how much because the club have insisted that they sign a NDA.

The thing is how on earth would the club ever have had agreed to the minutes being made public !!??
They knew exactly that every word of Tudor's interview was kosher else they would have revealed the "alleged" discrepancies yesterday there and then, all of this wait until October bollocks is just playing the delaying game, the same one that they have being doing since the start.

How do people like Snooper, Newell, Webb and Posty have the audacity to speak on such things!?
Can we get them in the ice bucket chair tomorrow alongside Sahib Brent, it wouldn't be water in those buckets mind.

You'd be lucky to get any shit to stick to Greenman Punch, he's a slippery bastard.

Tudor is an experienced local politician. How long has he been knocking around the local political scene? It must be well over 10 years and this isn't even his first stint as council leader. He'll have been well aware about what he could and could not say, what was commercially sensitive and what was not and so on.

He is also a democratically elected public servant who has shifted several million pounds out of the PCC bank account and into Akkeron's (or companies associated to it). As such he is under pressure to get some bang for his buck. By accepting all those lovely publicly-raised pounds Brent has also chosen to put his business planning regarding those projects into the glare of public scrutiny.

As a body representing Argyle Fans (the clue is in the name) the AFT is quite right to be concerned for the future of the club and is quite right to be examining the club's planning as carefully as it can.

That means asking questions not only of the club but also of other bodies able to confirm or refute various items of information.

As such AFT would have been failing its core purpose not to ask about the HHP development and Tudor would have been failing in his duty to those who elect him and trust him to spend our money wisely were he not to answer as fully as he is able.

I'm no fan of Tudor, far from it, but in this instance he has behaved exactly as I would hope that somebody in his position would.

If this happens to inconvenience Mr Brent then I care not one jot. What other course of action do we have? Not to ask at all? Just trust him and hope that all will be OK?

After all that has happened in our all too recent past that notion lies somewhere between ridiculous and unthinkable. Brent's words, including freely proffered pledges of openness and transparency and the best governance in the league, made at the Guildhall prove that he knows that to be the case.

The solution is so, so simple: embrace the fans, welcome AFT into a couple of chairs around the boardroom table, give AFT the 20% of shares (on the proviso that they are never traded) he so misguidedly priced at £400k and just be dead straight with us.

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alannotivvy wrote:

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I agree.

Although i feel Tudor Evans seems a decent, honest chap..He could improve somewhat too.

The comments on this in Brent Herald is worth reading.

Webb trys to rile sam with that membership crack, perhaps webb could explain how his union dimwits were outwitted by Royal Mail? Though looking at his pathetic defence of slippery, we can see how.

Talking of the Welsh wizard - sat in Cardiff airport waiting for the Dalaman express and this is a friggin hole. Sun & Efes might take my mind off all this shite!!

Punchdrunk wrote:

How do people like Snooper, Newell, Webb and Posty have the audacity to speak on such things!?

(Leaving aside the bleating about how it could have been if the GASBoard hadn't closed itself down.)

There's been almost total silence from the usual suspects on this issue today. It's almost as if they've been placed under orders or something.

Peggy wrote:

Punchdrunk wrote:

How do people like Snooper, Newell, Webb and Posty have the audacity to speak on such things!?

(Leaving aside the bleating about how it could have been if the GASBoard hadn't closed itself down.)

There's been almost total silence from the usual suspects on this issue today. It's almost as if they've been placed under orders or something.

I think the same Peggy,

Tgwu wrote:

Peggy wrote:

Punchdrunk wrote:

How do people like Snooper, Newell, Webb and Posty have the audacity to speak on such things!?

(Leaving aside the bleating about how it could have been if the GASBoard hadn't closed itself down.)

There's been almost total silence from the usual suspects on this issue today. It's almost as if they've been placed under orders or something.

I think the same Peggy,

Argyle's statement yesterday did say that there would be no further comment from the club for 8 weeks so they would keep quiet, wouldn't they!

Re club statement, any ideas about what was wrong about the agreed minutes between the two parties in the meeting? It'd be nice to know - well for me anyway

hippo wrote:

Re club statement, any ideas about what was wrong about the agreed minutes between the two parties in the meeting?  It'd be nice to know - well for me anyway

Sam was looking in to it. Anybody for a fanzine still waiting for one.

With SFD hearing that the HHP Clusterfuck will officially be announced as dead pretty soon, it's interesting reading through this exchange with the Trust again.

Tudor will obviously have known more at the time, and the gist of the meeting is very much 'we've given Brent every conceivable assistance, and he still cannot deliver', as far as the Council are concerned.

Still no elaborations explaining what was supposedly incorrect in the original AFT statement even though the club and Evans were given ample opportunity to question the contents before publication. Transparency?

You would have thought the AFT would have contacted Tudor and inquired?

Did Tudor really misspeak or are The AFT basically being called liars?

We reported the meeting faithfully in every detail of what we were told.

If Tudor misspoke (and he personally hasn't said that he has, btw) then that's not reflective of our reporting. As for what comes next- watch this space but if the rumours are true about the council (no idea if they are or aren't) then obviously that will be the main priority for discussion rather than the particulars of a blame game for alleged misunderstandings regarding a Brent Higher Home Park project that is dead (again, if it IS dead). If that's the case then whilst there were non-clarified rumours that there were misunderstandings, we will have at least figured out what the final outcome of it all was which was ultimately the end game. We'd then probably focus future enquiries from that angle rather than settling moribund scores regarding alleged misunderstandings because as I say, we'd at least have got the transparency and knowledge that the initial meeting set out to get.

Now if we don't get any such clarification, then we naturally would have to look at it from a different tact.

I can't make any promises that aren't a board decision but let's just say we haven't forgot about anything.

"Tack", Sam.

And HHP is dead right enough. No doubt about it.