Hi

Chris,

Welcome back my friend, let him without previous for the occasional cyber flounce cast the first stone and all that .

As i've said already your new parish spreads beyond the walls of the church. Despite the vomit on our trenchcoats and the faint smell of urine 'the fallen' will always have more respect for the pastor who reaches out than the one who keeps them at arms length. Don't let the b*ggers get you down, we're not the Argyle basket cases we're painted as. Argyle fans don't come in one size, shape or degree of cheeriness.

Again, welcome back.

Hello Chris,

Welcome back, thank you for once again making the effort to communicate with us 'freaks' (used in a non-abusive way ).

I hope you can answer questions on here about the negative aspects (of Argyle), as you are doing on pasoti.

Thanks to a lot of marketing, by Mr Newell, our numbers are growing and we are getting more balanced opinions. Funny Man, X-Isle and others have differing views on certain issues and it provides healthy debate.

Ali

pepsipete wrote:

Come on lads, I an sure we are all pleased to have Chris posting on here again, lets have some constructive questions and comments. Like how do you see your role as Club President?

Thanks Pete

In reality I think the role is a work in progress.

Where it is on paper is a purely ambassadorial role - with maybe some future work with supporters groups and/or the community.

We are in a period of fire fighting at the moment, putting a team together, assembling a board, getting the commercial / retail departments running properly again.

Once this all settles down I am sure everything to will be a lot clearly to us all - me included.

Greenskin wrote:

Chris,how does your role as an imparter of information to various supporters groups dovetail with Rick Cowdery's role as media and accreditation officer for the club? I'm a bit confused about your role-when you give updates etc,are you acting in an official capacity,as a supporter, or something in between,a sort of quasi official role? Is it in fact possible to split the official capacity/fan roles and wear two hats? I'd have thought it was rather difficult personally,wonder if you would care to expand on this.

GS

My role has nothing to do with / won't interfere at all with Rick Cowdery.

What I have recognised though is that by being President I will continue to pick up bits of information here and there and as a fan I think its only right to share that on a regular basis.

I see myself as an effective communicator and see no reason to stop this.

Its easy to split for me - I will use the Presidents Progress format for my regular updates and everything else will be my own personal view as a fan.

Rickler wrote:

Chris Webb wrote:

No Nigel you said that I am building a reputation for using foul language.

Indeed I did.

There have been several comments on Pasoti ribbing you about 'swearing' during games. If you haven't seen them, you must be blind. Do you deny that such comments have been made. I must admit... I think you even replied to one of them. However.. Due to the bulllying nature of your new 'best mate', my 'search' facilites on the farm that would enable me to prove this to you, are currently not available to me.

But let's cut to the chase... Do you swear publicaly at matches or not?

Nigel

It's called banter between friends. You know real life ones.

Have I ever in my life swore at a football match? Yes - lock me up.

Do I swear publicaly now? No - No apology needed.

Arch Stanton wrote:

Chris.

Would you not agree that with the benefit of hindsight the appointment of Carl Fletcher as manager was a rushed decision by Brent? No, James Brent believed that having achieved better results than Peter Reid (a very experienced manager) with the same players, Carl Fletcher deserved the chance to have time to build his own team on an even playing field. 3 weeks after coming out of admin to be saying its time for a change is madness. Lets see what this week brings in terms of signings and results.

There has been no feel good factor as you would expect from the appointment in terms of performance or pointage return, we have relied on a former manager to sell the club for us in order to bring in both Bignot and Sutherland, on top of that, Argyle now face probably the 4 most crucial games of the season in terms of finance with regards to a cup run and 6 pointers against Northampton, Bradford and Hereford respectively, armed with the most junior management team in L2 and a group of players whose confidence is visibly waning by every passing game. Surely Brent must see Fletchers position as being untenable if we do not progress in the Cup and take at least 7 points from our closest competitors in the drop zone. You would have to ask him Arch!

Can you confirm that none of the members of the CP are actively giving Brent advice to on field matters at the Club? Of course. Blimey.

Also when can we expect Director appointments to be made and will Brent be seeking financial assistance from these individuals? This is actively being persued this week and next. I think it will be a mixture of local/non local directors and also a mixture of some people bringing cash and some people there for their skills. We may also see investors who do not sit on the board.

In closing do you honestly believe "Churchillian" like statements as the one posted yesterday is the correct way to address supporters, some of which are actually very football savvy in order to enthuse them about such a blatantly poor side? As I said at the start of the post it was made as a fan so to be quite honest I should be entitled to be positive or negative or however I want to be on a messageboard - just like any other supporter. I 100% believe in what I posted and I 100% believe that Argyle will avoid relegation. Just because others do not does that mean I shouldn't post?

I would of thought an apology to the guys who paid good money to travel to Torquay and witness that debacle would of have been a more sensitive and appropriate course of action to have taken, I realise you posted with the added caveat as a fan, however, I would suggest that to the majority on there any communication from yourself is seen from your close links to Brent and official club capacity now. I take your view on board but if I say I am posting as a fan then I am doing exactly that. Not for Argyle, not for James Brent, not as the President but simply the average Argyle supporter.

Arch

Tried to answer in red mate.

Chris

Tringreen wrote:

Chris Webb wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

We should have had a vote on this !

I wasn't banned

I was only joking dear boy. Unlike another forum we don't do bannings for disagreeing with the mods and upsetting the herd with reality.

Similarly, we don't attempt to rewrite history, claiming predictions were 'lucky', or worse still, completely falsifying events, as with recent claims that we wanted Stapleton to spend, spend, spend.

As you well know, I put out the olive branch to Pasoti recently on Exeweb. It was their choice to refuse the healing process. As for the accusations of washing our dirty linen on other clubs' forums, I offered ATD for the purpose but that too was ignored.

You really can't have it all ways, or can you ?

Tring

Why don't you try directing your posts towards who they are actually meant for - IJN.

Using exeweb or me just makes you seem to be condoning exactly the same antics that you claim Ian gets up to.

In my experience conflicts are best solved in private not on an internet forum.

Send him a PM, give him a call........take an adult approach.

X Isle wrote:

Chris,

Welcome back my friend, let him without previous for the occasional cyber flounce cast the first stone and all that .

As i've said already your new parish spreads beyond the walls of the church. Despite the vomit on our trenchcoats and the faint smell of urine 'the fallen' will always have more respect for the pastor who reaches out than the one who keeps them at arms length. Don't let the b*ggers get you down, we're not the Argyle basket cases we're painted as. Argyle fans don't come in one size, shape or degree of cheeriness.

Again, welcome back.

Thanks Smiffy,

Always believe!

Chris, thanks for responses. Do you know if a 'football advisor' (to Carl Fletcher) has been/ is being considered?

Chemical Ali wrote:

Chris, thanks for responses. Do you know if a 'football advisor' (to Carl Fletcher) has been/ is being considered?

I dont CA....To be honest and this is a point I have been trying to make, if I speak about on the field related matters then it is strictly as a fan because I don't want to fall into the trap of a fan thinking they run the Club.

People far better qualified than me will make decisions and communicate on issues such as that.

As President I will stick to things that I can positively influence.

Chris Webb wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Chris Webb wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

We should have had a vote on this !

I wasn't banned

I was only joking dear boy. Unlike another forum we don't do bannings for disagreeing with the mods and upsetting the herd with reality.

Similarly, we don't attempt to rewrite history, claiming predictions were 'lucky', or worse still, completely falsifying events, as with recent claims that we wanted Stapleton to spend, spend, spend.

As you well know, I put out the olive branch to Pasoti recently on Exeweb. It was their choice to refuse the healing process. As for the accusations of washing our dirty linen on other clubs' forums, I offered ATD for the purpose but that too was ignored.

You really can't have it all ways, or can you ?

Tring

Why don't you try directing your posts towards who they are actually meant for - IJN.

Using exeweb or me just makes you seem to be condoning exactly the same antics that you claim Ian gets up to.

In my experience conflicts are best solved in private not on an internet forum.

Send him a PM, give him a call........take an adult approach.

You're his mate. You think the same way. You condone the undemocratic way Pasoti is run. Same difference.

He's not for learning or turning and has made that quite clear.

Now either sort yer mates out, or you are, as I say, no different Mr President.

Thanks for coming back Chris.

Already, we have more insight on here than on any other mesageboard I peruse.

I think that the reason for this is that posters on here ask questions, whereas on other forums, they don't.

Chris, I for one won't be contributing to any discussion that you are part of - after posting this of course.

I find your whole 'look at me, I'm doing it' sickening and the main reason I don't post or even read Pasoti any more. Your entire condescending tone even on this thread just winds me up.

As far as I am aware, and it's early days on here, there is no 'tow the party line' or you are out here.

Furthermore, I'm still not entirely sure what you and your 'henchmen' have actually achieved since our club went into admin and back out, except making a lot of noise and cosying up to whoever seems to be 'in charge' or likely to be 'in charge'.

Still as the forum says, it's democratic in here. So welcome.

Cerbera wrote:

Chris, I for one won't be contributing to any discussion that you are part of - after posting this of course.

I find your whole 'look at me, I'm doing it' sickening and the main reason I don't post or even read Pasoti any more. Your entire condescending tone even on this thread just winds me up.

As far as I am aware, and it's early days on here, there is no 'tow the party line' or you are out here.

Furthermore, I'm still not entirely sure what you and your 'henchmen' have actually achieved since our club went into admin and back out, except making a lot of noise and cosying up to whoever seems to be 'in charge' or likely to be 'in charge'.

Still as the forum says, it's democratic in here. So welcome.

Thanks for that.........

Chris Webb wrote:

As President I will stick to things that I can positively influence.

Aka PASOTI!



(that was a joke, feel free to ignore).

I think John Vaughan is correct. Not in the post above mine (though that is still correct - as all 42 of his fantastical posts thus far on ATD have tended to be), but when he said earlier somewhere that inevitably it is results on the pitch which will be the factor on which people will judge Brent, Ridsdale and even yourself. No-one will like you much in the Conference, if ya get whatta mean. Let's hope that Purse et al can help us make up the difference! There are a few terrible sides in the league above us who won't receive any investment between now and the season's end, and only two go down. I think we will improve with new signings (can't get worse, etc), and combined with investment in the coaching staff I hope to gawd it is enough to stay up.

Welcome Chris, and good luck on your role at the club, well deserved in my eyes, you did alot more than others to help save the club. Your a brave man to post on anti-Argyle democratic, and i feel you are in for a hard time. Stick to posting something negative they will be on your side, post something positive, then good luck mate. There are far to many on here that wanted the club to fold, hence why they now slate brent. Chris, some people are just moaners, as many on here are. Good luck anyway.

125+1 wrote:

Welcome Chris, and good luck on your role at the club, well deserved in my eyes, you did alot more than others to help save the club. Your a brave man to post on anti-Argyle democratic, and i feel you are in for a hard time. Stick to posting something negative they will be on your side, post something positive, then good luck mate. There are far to many on here that wanted the club to fold, hence why they now slate brent. Chris, some people are just moaners, as many on here are. Good luck anyway.

Chemical Ali wrote:

Hello Chris,

Welcome back, thank you for once again making the effort to communicate with us 'freaks' (used in a non-abusive way ).

I hope you can answer questions on here about the negative aspects (of Argyle), as you are doing on pasoti.

Thanks to a lot of marketing, by Mr Newell, our numbers are growing and we are getting more balanced opinions. Funny Man, X-Isle and others have differing views on certain issues and it provides healthy debate.

Ali

I think it's been great to see this site with a little variation now with Smiffy and Funnyman etc. we're never all going to agree all of the time but there's a lot of respect on here for the users, from the users. It's no surprise, cultures are created at the top and filter down, it's what happens when you have an excellent group of Mods.

WB Chris, going to stick around for a bit this time?

Chris Webb wrote:

Rickler wrote:

Chris Webb wrote:

No Nigel you said that I am building a reputation for using foul language.

Indeed I did.

There have been several comments on Pasoti ribbing you about 'swearing' during games. If you haven't seen them, you must be blind. Do you deny that such comments have been made. I must admit... I think you even replied to one of them. However.. Due to the bulllying nature of your new 'best mate', my 'search' facilites on the farm that would enable me to prove this to you, are currently not available to me.

But let's cut to the chase... Do you swear publicaly at matches or not?

Nigel

It's called banter between friends. You know real life ones.

Have I ever in my life swore at a football match? Yes - lock me up.

Do I swear publicaly now? No - No apology needed.

So you admit these comments were made - it's just that they are 'banter'?

but banter that is based on nothing factual at all? Or something in the past? Is it that you used to swear at matches, but now that you don't, the silence is deafening ..?
Is that it? Is that why the banter is so funny from your 'real life' friends?

If you want at apology.. I suggest you get one from the 'internet' version of your real life friends who are leaving a false impression of you!

And to be honest... If you are only back to pass on tidbits from 'James' you needn't bother. I am sure our fine mods can cut and paste your blog from Pasoti for the few who won't read it there.

I will be honest. I think the Riddler and Brent are using you big time. I do not blame you for falling for it. There are very few people who would have turned the opportunity down.

I think you should have been marched into the center of Home Park. Brent shoud have introduced you to the crowd, said his piece, made you the honoury president until the new chair of the trust could assume the position on behalf of the fans, and asked that anyone who ever met you, buy you a beer in thanks.
Everyone would have been happy.

As it is now.. How is it going to end up?

If Brent is serious about engaging the fans, he has to do it - not you do it for him!

Why hasn't Brent signed up to Pasoti (and this site)? He needen't enter the 'debate', but he could give his thoughts, ideas, and plans directly.

Serious Question: Is Brent even aware of ATD? Are you aware of any discussion regarding this site?

If he truely wants to engage the fans... Then hold 'town hall meetings' once a month where he meets fans one on one, and host Argyle world specials on the internet for exiles like me, where we can text, email, phone etc - surely we could get that one together?

Since I am giving suggestions... Brent owes you and the fans a favour, right? Ask him to use the Argyle mailing and email lists to send out his personal wish that all fans join the trust and take part in the discussion on the Trusts own FORUM! (which you need to set up)

Look what happened the last time the club did that: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

1855 members!

Most of those joined in the first few weeks. ...and more importantly... There are hundreds and hundreds of names that you never ever saw on Pasoti - I don't believe Pasoti's finest all suddenly came out from behind thier monikers.

It failed because of the crappy format that allowed people to blog as well as post.

And finally...

Chris Webb wrote:

It isn't this site or pasoti where the issue is.

It is a handful of posters.

125+1 wrote:

There are far to many on here that wanted the club to fold, hence why they now slate brent. Chris, some people are just moaners, as many on here are. Good luck anyway.

Just who are you tarring?

Names!

Name these People!


Respectfully,

"Nigel"

125+1 wrote:

Welcome Chris, and good luck on your role at the club, well deserved in my eyes, you did alot more than others to help save the club. Your a brave man to post on anti-Argyle democratic, and i feel you are in for a hard time. Stick to posting something negative they will be on your side, post something positive, then good luck mate. There are far to many on here that wanted the club to fold, hence why they now slate brent. Chris, some people are just moaners, as many on here are. Good luck anyway.

When are you going to realise being dumped out of the FL is not being saved? When we hear something ACTUALLY positive i.e. news about something that will ACTUALLY arrest our fast accelerating slide into oblivion then we'll all be over the moon. Like Fletch has been sacked and replaced with a manager. Or we have signed three or four good L2 quality players. Or brent has secured proper investment in the playing side and January will see all the crap replaced with at least L2 standard players. Anything else, I'm not interested.

Chris Webb wrote:

X Isle wrote:

Chris,

Welcome back my friend, let him without previous for the occasional cyber flounce cast the first stone and all that .

As i've said already your new parish spreads beyond the walls of the church. Despite the vomit on our trenchcoats and the faint smell of urine 'the fallen' will always have more respect for the pastor who reaches out than the one who keeps them at arms length. Don't let the b*ggers get you down, we're not the Argyle basket cases we're painted as. Argyle fans don't come in one size, shape or degree of cheeriness.

Again, welcome back.

Thanks Smiffy,

Always believe!

Despite what some will tell you, I never stopped believing, just refused to accept AFC Ridsdale/Heaney was Plymouth Argyle .

125+1 wrote:

Welcome Chris, and good luck on your role at the club, well deserved in my eyes, you did alot more than others to help save the club. Your a brave man to post on anti-Argyle democratic, and i feel you are in for a hard time. Stick to posting something negative they will be on your side, post something positive, then good luck mate. There are far to many on here that wanted the club to fold, hence why they now slate brent. Chris, some people are just moaners, as many on here are. Good luck anyway.

I suspect Chris will have a "harder" time on here but, compared to pasoti that's not saying a lot.

I think he certainly did tons to help save the club. Does that mean he shouldn't be questioned? He probably did lots more than most people but Argyle friends, if they are true friends, don't sit by and not ask important questions. I would assume that Chris thinks similarly - otherwise why would he put himself through it a second time?

I agree that sometimes some of the posters on here give the impression of "enjoying" moaning at perceived failure of the club. I suspect you are just one of the moaners - why else come on here? I hope you enjoy it.

Not so much a question as a request:

Chris: When people use pseudonyms on the internet, they do so for various reasons, some good, some not. One of the good reasons is that they might need to conceal their real identity, perhaps because of the nature of their job. Or because they're not meant to be using the internet or their iphone when they're at work.

Whether or not people use another name for a good reason, all have the right not to have their real identity exposed by another poster. And just because another poster decides, for reasons known only to himself, to 'out' some people whilst allowing others to retain their privacy, there's no need for the Club President to follow in that poster's footsteps.

Both on here and on pasoti you've used people's real names rather than their posting name. Please stop it.

Peggy wrote:

Not so much a question as a request:

Chris: When people use pseudonyms on the internet, they do so for various reasons, some good, some not. One of the good reasons is that they might need to conceal their real identity, perhaps because of the nature of their job. Or because they're not meant to be using the internet or their iphone when they're at work.

Whether or not people use another name for a good reason, all have the right not to have their real identity exposed by another poster. And just because another poster decides, for reasons known only to himself, to 'out' some people whilst allowing others to retain their privacy, there's no need for the Club President to follow in that poster's footsteps.

Both on here and on pasoti you've used people's real names rather than their posting name. Please stop it.

Alleluia. Some people need a lesson in internet social understandings. For someone who has proved so sensitive in how he is addressed online, I would hope Peggy's thoughts are taken on board by Chris Webb and his mate in particular.
OUTING people is a pandora's box that could easily get out of hand.

Guys, steady on or you'll be hearing cries of "ABUSE, ABUSE"!