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Greenskin
Posts : 6243 Join date : 2011-05-16 Age : 64 Location : Tavistock area
| Subject: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 3:29 pm | |
| Sunday Indy today,Nigel Walrond,the alleged Argyle expert columnist;
"....some of the unbelievable criticism Brent has received from a number of supporters over his plans to build a 10m grandstand that would give a caacity of around 18000.I personaly do not understand the need for a 20000 capacity the AFTWG has recently talked about....Argyle struggled to get anywhere near that even in the heady days in the CCC under Ian Holloway."
"....if Argyle do get back to the championship one day and look like they might finally take the step into the premiership,then that is the time to review the capacity.In the meantime,Pilgrims supporters should be grateful that they have an owner who seems serious about replacing the dilapidated grandstand with a structure that can help bring some much needed match day and non match day income into the club".
Don't need you to tell me what or who to be grateful to,so get lost Walrond.
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| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 3:38 pm | |
| I wonder how much Brent paid him for writing that |
| | | Tringreen
Posts : 10917 Join date : 2011-05-10 Age : 74 Location : Tring
| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 3:51 pm | |
| Nauseating toadie and/or knows nothing about Argyle and football. |
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| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 4:44 pm | |
| That "news"paper is still trading? |
| | | greensleeves
Posts : 517 Join date : 2013-04-21
| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 5:09 pm | |
| Mr. Skinner...had a bad lunch today. |
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| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 5:15 pm | |
| What I don't understand about this view which also happens to be Brent's/Newell's/Webb's/Postey's view, is what happens when we get to the championship with the proposed stand which will allow around 16,000 Argyle fans and around 1200 away fans before segregation?
So on a wave of optimism we sell 10,000 plus season tickets, so that leaves 6,000 maximum glory hunting plastics, otherwise known as Argyle fans who can't afford a season ticket or who through other commitments like work can't make every game.
So we have a couple of sell-out crowds where some fans are left disappointed and have a cracking start to the season, is this when we close the Devonport End to expand for the premier league? Have gates of 10-11,000 maximum for the season while the Devonport End is rebuilt twice as high as it is currently? Blocking Mr and Mrs Newell's sea views forever?
Or as Mr Brent says get into the premier league, take the £60 million tv money and build a stadium overnight and not buy any new players with the money?
Until James Brent puts some meat on the bones of his constantly changing plans then I don't see how anyone can be so pro the ministand? |
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| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 5:22 pm | |
| Never heard of this micky mouse reporter or value his paper enough to give his repirt any kind of merit. |
| | | Greenskin
Posts : 6243 Join date : 2011-05-16 Age : 64 Location : Tavistock area
| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 5:23 pm | |
| - greensleeves wrote:
- Mr. Skinner...had a bad lunch today.
Didn't have any lunch in fact,playing golf on a beautiful sunny,breezy May day,nothing to make me feel crotchety. |
| | | Flat_Track_Bully
Posts : 983 Join date : 2012-04-24
| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 5:24 pm | |
| - Greenjock wrote:
- What I don't understand about this view which also happens to be Brent's/Newell's/Webb's/Postey's view, is what happens when we get to the championship with the proposed stand which will allow around 16,000 Argyle fans and around 1200 away fans before segregation?
So on a wave of optimism we sell 10,000 plus season tickets, so that leaves 6,000 maximum glory hunting plastics, otherwise known as Argyle fans who can't afford a season ticket or who through other commitments like work can't make every game.
So we have a couple of sell-out crowds where some fans are left disappointed and have a cracking start to the season, is this when we close the Devonport End to expand for the premier league? Have gates of 10-11,000 maximum for the season while the Devonport End is rebuilt twice as high as it is currently? Blocking Mr and Mrs Newell's sea views forever?
Or as Mr Brent says get into the premier league, take the £60 million tv money and build a stadium overnight and not buy any new players with the money?
Until James Brent puts some meat on the bones of his constantly changing plans then I don't see how anyone can be so pro the ministand? The solution is simple in the face of under capacity. Brent can just increase the POTD cost. If we have an effective capacity of 16000, and are regularly filling that, then Brent can just increase to cost of a ticket to as much as he can get away with. That would reduce any lost revenue. The same goes for any further reduction in capacity while expansion is performed. Obviously those who can't afford the increased price tickets will be falling down the 'fan rankings' of the self-appointed super fans. |
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| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 5:25 pm | |
| Add that fu*ker to the sycophant list - wouldn't wipe my arse with that rag anyhow!! |
| | | greensleeves
Posts : 517 Join date : 2013-04-21
| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 5:25 pm | |
| Fox sake.its only Nigel Walrond...not a Sun reporter.Its an opinion piece and as they say on the farm,opinions are like assholes...we each have one,boys and girls.Let the guy have is,,,,,, |
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| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 5:28 pm | |
| - greensleeves wrote:
- Fox sake.its only Nigel Walrond...not a Sun reporter.Its an opinion piece and as they say on the farm,opinions are like assholes...we each have one,boys and girls.Let the guy have is,,,,,,
Everyone has an asshole but not all of us like it so much they want to be one,,,,,,,,, |
| | | greensleeves
Posts : 517 Join date : 2013-04-21
| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 5:32 pm | |
| Jock....I guess that now you're a MOD on here you will be reporting for duty on a regular basis.Sensible will be along later...... |
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| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 5:35 pm | |
| - greensleeves wrote:
- Jock....I guess that now you're a MOD on here you will be reporting for duty on a regular basis.Sensible will be along later......
I'm sorry I don't follow you? Reporting for duty on a regular basis? If I'm a mod and logged in then I would be on duty. My views on assholes isn't going to change because I'm a mod or not. |
| | | Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 5:42 pm | |
| - greensleeves wrote:
- Fox sake.its only Nigel Walrond...not a Sun reporter.Its an opinion piece and as they say on the farm,opinions are like assholes...we each have one,boys and girls.Let the guy have is,,,,,,
I have two,that why I talk a lot if sh@t He is part of the click with Web, Radio Devon and the Herald. |
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| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 5:44 pm | |
| Nobody buys that crap rag anymore do they? |
| | | Argyle Fans' Trust
Posts : 202 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 6:00 pm | |
| - Greenskin wrote:
- Sunday Indy today,Nigel Walrond,the alleged Argyle expert columnist;
"....some of the unbelievable criticism Brent has received from a number of supporters over his plans to build a 10m grandstand that would give a caacity of around 18000. I personaly do not understand the need for a 20000 capacity the AFTWG has recently talked about....Argyle struggled to get anywhere near that even in the heady days in the CCC under Ian Holloway." "....if Argyle do get back to the championship one day and look like they might finally take the step into the premiership,then that is the time to review the capacity.In the meantime,Pilgrims supporters should be grateful that they have an owner who seems serious about replacing the dilapidated grandstand with a structure that can help bring some much needed match day and non match day income into the club".
Don't need you to tell me what or who to be grateful to,so get lost Walrond.
- £10 million. This figure has been quoted numerous times, yet we have not seen any costings to substantiate those figures - The Horseshoe has a capacity of 12,600. The new Grandstand design is for 4,800. Total 17,400. Less segregation and media seats, closer to 16,800. - Some attendances during our rise from League 2 under Luggy to the Championship, in the 19-20k+ bracket: 24/04/04 - QPR - 19888 - In League 2. capacity then was 19888. We have no way of knowing how many wanted to attend but couldn't get a ticket, 08/05/04 - Colchester - 19868 - See comments for QPR game above. 14/09/04 - Leeds - 20555 30/10/04 - West Ham - 20220 26/12/04 - QPR - 19535 08/01/05 - Everton - 20112 08/05/05 - Leicester - 19199 11/03/06 - Watford - 20652 A 16,500+ attendance was achieved on another 17 occasions. If Nigel Walrond is reading this and would like any further help in researching some FACTS for his next OPINION piece, we'd be happy to help. |
| | | Greenskin
Posts : 6243 Join date : 2011-05-16 Age : 64 Location : Tavistock area
| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 6:13 pm | |
| - Sufferedsince68 wrote:
- Nobody buys that crap rag anymore do they?
Only me,apparently. Still good in depth coverage of local football and cricket and they do come up with the odd interesting piece about Argyle-Dave Smith had a good interview in there awhile back.I remember when everybody used to judge players on Harley Lawers star rating for away matches on Sunday morning-the paper used to have some influence back then,couldn't wait for it to arrive,same with Graham Hambly and the football Herald. |
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| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 6:15 pm | |
| - Argyle Fans' Trust wrote:
- Greenskin wrote:
- Sunday Indy today,Nigel Walrond,the alleged Argyle expert columnist;
"....some of the unbelievable criticism Brent has received from a number of supporters over his plans to build a 10m grandstand that would give a caacity of around 18000. I personaly do not understand the need for a 20000 capacity the AFTWG has recently talked about....Argyle struggled to get anywhere near that even in the heady days in the CCC under Ian Holloway." "....if Argyle do get back to the championship one day and look like they might finally take the step into the premiership,then that is the time to review the capacity.In the meantime,Pilgrims supporters should be grateful that they have an owner who seems serious about replacing the dilapidated grandstand with a structure that can help bring some much needed match day and non match day income into the club".
Don't need you to tell me what or who to be grateful to,so get lost Walrond.
- £10 million. This figure has been quoted numerous times, yet we have not seen any costings to substantiate those figures
- The Horseshoe has a capacity of 12,600. The new Grandstand design is for 4,800. Total 17,400. Less segregation and media seats, closer to 16,800.
- Some attendances during our rise from League 2 under Luggy to the Championship, in the 19-20k+ bracket:
24/04/04 - QPR - 19888 - In League 2. capacity then was 19888. We have no way of knowing how many wanted to attend but couldn't get a ticket, 08/05/04 - Colchester - 19868 - See comments for QPR game above. 14/09/04 - Leeds - 20555 30/10/04 - West Ham - 20220 26/12/04 - QPR - 19535 08/01/05 - Everton - 20112 08/05/05 - Leicester - 19199 11/03/06 - Watford - 20652
A 16,500+ attendance was achieved on another 17 occasions.
If Nigel Walrond is reading this and would like any further help in researching some FACTS for his next OPINION piece, we'd be happy to help.
Can anyone who is not banned from Pyongyang please re-post it there |
| | | Freathy
Posts : 7233 Join date : 2011-05-12
| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 6:34 pm | |
| - punchdrunk wrote:
- Argyle Fans' Trust wrote:
- Greenskin wrote:
- Sunday Indy today,Nigel Walrond,the alleged Argyle expert columnist;
"....some of the unbelievable criticism Brent has received from a number of supporters over his plans to build a 10m grandstand that would give a caacity of around 18000. I personaly do not understand the need for a 20000 capacity the AFTWG has recently talked about....Argyle struggled to get anywhere near that even in the heady days in the CCC under Ian Holloway." "....if Argyle do get back to the championship one day and look like they might finally take the step into the premiership,then that is the time to review the capacity.In the meantime,Pilgrims supporters should be grateful that they have an owner who seems serious about replacing the dilapidated grandstand with a structure that can help bring some much needed match day and non match day income into the club".
Don't need you to tell me what or who to be grateful to,so get lost Walrond.
- £10 million. This figure has been quoted numerous times, yet we have not seen any costings to substantiate those figures
- The Horseshoe has a capacity of 12,600. The new Grandstand design is for 4,800. Total 17,400. Less segregation and media seats, closer to 16,800.
- Some attendances during our rise from League 2 under Luggy to the Championship, in the 19-20k+ bracket:
24/04/04 - QPR - 19888 - In League 2. capacity then was 19888. We have no way of knowing how many wanted to attend but couldn't get a ticket, 08/05/04 - Colchester - 19868 - See comments for QPR game above. 14/09/04 - Leeds - 20555 30/10/04 - West Ham - 20220 26/12/04 - QPR - 19535 08/01/05 - Everton - 20112 08/05/05 - Leicester - 19199 11/03/06 - Watford - 20652
A 16,500+ attendance was achieved on another 17 occasions.
If Nigel Walrond is reading this and would like any further help in researching some FACTS for his next OPINION piece, we'd be happy to help.
Can anyone who is not banned from Pyongyang please re-post it there Waste of time. They're not for listening. Build it small so brent makes his pension pot bigger that's the main priority. Argyle being condemned to an eternity of lower league shite without hope is a price worth paying for that. Anyway there'll always be room for 6,000 praaaaaper faaaaaaaans. |
| | | Grovehill
Posts : 2291 Join date : 2012-01-24
| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 6:38 pm | |
| C,mon guys, be reasonable!
It's like building an extension to your house isn't it?
If you (or more likely, the missus) want a bigger kitchen, you do it a bit at a time, don't you?
First of all you extend by three feet so you can get the cooker in, then if you want a fridge in there a couple of years down the line, you bung on another couple of feet.
And so on and so on with the dishwasher, the tumble drier, the cupboards etc.
I mean, who would build the whole thing in one go?
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| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 6:50 pm | |
| - Argyle Fans' Trust wrote:
- Greenskin wrote:
- Sunday Indy today,Nigel Walrond,the alleged Argyle expert columnist;
"....some of the unbelievable criticism Brent has received from a number of supporters over his plans to build a 10m grandstand that would give a caacity of around 18000. I personaly do not understand the need for a 20000 capacity the AFTWG has recently talked about....Argyle struggled to get anywhere near that even in the heady days in the CCC under Ian Holloway." "....if Argyle do get back to the championship one day and look like they might finally take the step into the premiership,then that is the time to review the capacity.In the meantime,Pilgrims supporters should be grateful that they have an owner who seems serious about replacing the dilapidated grandstand with a structure that can help bring some much needed match day and non match day income into the club".
Don't need you to tell me what or who to be grateful to,so get lost Walrond.
- £10 million. This figure has been quoted numerous times, yet we have not seen any costings to substantiate those figures
- The Horseshoe has a capacity of 12,600. The new Grandstand design is for 4,800. Total 17,400. Less segregation and media seats, closer to 16,800.
- Some attendances during our rise from League 2 under Luggy to the Championship, in the 19-20k+ bracket:
24/04/04 - QPR - 19888 - In League 2. capacity then was 19888. We have no way of knowing how many wanted to attend but couldn't get a ticket, 08/05/04 - Colchester - 19868 - See comments for QPR game above. 14/09/04 - Leeds - 20555 30/10/04 - West Ham - 20220 26/12/04 - QPR - 19535 08/01/05 - Everton - 20112 08/05/05 - Leicester - 19199 11/03/06 - Watford - 20652
A 16,500+ attendance was achieved on another 17 occasions.
If Nigel Walrond is reading this and would like any further help in researching some FACTS for his next OPINION piece, we'd be happy to help.
Well done as per normal - hope this tosser is up on a charge for crimes against journalism!! |
| | | Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 7:55 pm | |
| Don’t he do radio commentary on rugby for radio Devon especially on the second City,
I think the new Herald web site will be pay to look,
I do not listen to radio Devon
I do not buy the Herald
I have not brought the Sunday Indy.
I only read the local paper when in a supermarket café, a quick look at the Indy today at Salisbury spotted the story on the cheerleader put it back
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| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 8:01 pm | |
| I hate to be corny ....... BUT ..... it is the capitalist press, and Brent is a capitalist. What else do people expect ? There's a war on influence going on where the internet is concerned. I haven't regularly bought any newspaper in years and years, maybe 5 papers in 15 years, since the advent of the Web. I don't need crosswords any more and prefer my admittedly needed weather forecast, media listings, and lie of the land from a community resource that publishes without too much bias toward the squire that owns the road out of the town. I was in Torrington yesterday, Read their delightfully parochial Gazette in a delightful café that served a full veggie breakfast for £1.95 and a cup of tea for 55pence ! And I have to say the food was well acceptable.
Anyway, according to the Gazzette, apparently one of the Tory boys' planned "free schools" paid for by the taxpayer in the Torrington area got the thumbs down from the planning committee due to inadequate traffic provisions amongst other things. There is hope. These people are in a hurry. Who knows what might happen here when the full deal is published ?
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| | | Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Walrond Sun May 26, 2013 8:09 pm | |
| He was at Twickenham today to see Cornwall lose.
Cornwall 25-36 Lancashire |
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