Washed up scottish manager bows to the inevitable

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

Dane. wrote:

People go on about all the money he has had to spend on players. But its all self generated through his own success. Utd were on there last legs when he took over

the man is a genius and will go down as the greatest ever manager.

ONE of not the greatest

So who's better? Sorry but I couldn't stand the sour-faced cnut or his team but credit where it's due he has won everything in football and then some. He even did it with a team full of kids.

I can't think of anyone who compares to him.

I've always thought Moyes would succeed him too and that is now odds on.

Bpb Paisely
Joe Fagan
Jock Stein
Brian Clough

It certainly could be argued that Paisey had a far better record in terms of winning the European cup than Fergy,Clough also won it twice at a provincial club.Was winning the european cup twice in 20 years really that brilliant for a club of Manchester United's resources? Debatable point but what can't be disputed is Ferguson's longevity in winning trophies from the early 1980's to the present day-nobody in English football history has a record that compares in that respect.

i dont disagree that fergie was a great manager he clearly he was and is one of the greatest of all time i just wouldn't say he is THE greatest.

There is a rumour that Carl Fletcher is in the frame having been recommended by his previous employer as an exceptional individual.

They could do worse.

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

There is a rumour that Carl Fletcher is in the frame having been recommended by his previous employer as an exceptional individual.

They could do worse.

Yes being a man yoo hater i would be delighted to recommend captain clueless to man yooooooooooooooooo.

Greenskin wrote:

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

Dane. wrote:

People go on about all the money he has had to spend on players. But its all self generated through his own success. Utd were on there last legs when he took over

the man is a genius and will go down as the greatest ever manager.

ONE of not the greatest

So who's better? Sorry but I couldn't stand the sour-faced cnut or his team but credit where it's due he has won everything in football and then some. He even did it with a team full of kids.

I can't think of anyone who compares to him.

I've always thought Moyes would succeed him too and that is now odds on.

Bpb Paisely
Joe Fagan
Jock Stein
Brian Clough

It certainly could be argued that Paisey had a far better record in terms of winning the European cup than Fergy,Clough also won it twice at a provincial club.Was winning the european cup twice in 20 years really that brilliant for a club of Manchester United's resources? Debatable point but what can't be disputed is Ferguson's longevity in winning trophies from the early 1980's to the present day-nobody in English football history has a record that compares in that respect.

Worth pointing out that the old style European Cup was a lot easier to win than the Champions league is now. 5 in a row from Madrid, 3 in a row from Munich, Ajax and AC Milan yet nobody has ever won the Champions league twice in a row. Just look at the fixtures United had when they won in 68 and liverpool had when they won their last European cup and they probably had one difficult 2 legger and the final itself. Under the old method of league champions only United would have had just one team from Italy, Spain and Germany to worry about and would probably have won half a dozen European cups in the past 20 years rather than just the two.

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

Dane. wrote:

People go on about all the money he has had to spend on players. But its all self generated through his own success. Utd were on there last legs when he took over

the man is a genius and will go down as the greatest ever manager.

ONE of not the greatest

So who's better? Sorry but I couldn't stand the sour-faced cnut or his team but credit where it's due he has won everything in football and then some. He even did it with a team full of kids.

I can't think of anyone who compares to him.

I've always thought Moyes would succeed him too and that is now odds on.

Bpb Paisely
Joe Fagan
Jock Stein
Brian Clough

Bob Paisley comes close. Jock Stein only did it in Scotland where it was just a two horse race until Ferguson smashed the Old Firm's stranglehold and Brian Clough is probably third behing Ferguson and Clough in my book.

I'm in no way a fan of Ferguson or United but if you asked anyone in the last 20 years who they would like as manager I think it would be pretty unanimous that Ferguson would be named.

He won a European trophy with unfashionable Aberdeen and dominated Scottish football for 5 years or more. Then he moved to United, the biggest club in Britain by far with the biggest expectations, and they were a shambles until he totally transformed them.

He talked Kevin Keegan out of a Premier League title and sat back and pissed himself while they imploded and he's done the same to Arsene Wenger over and over again.

Probably his biggest achievement though is making fools of Chelsea and Man City who have had a bottomless pit of money and if he lost out to them one year he more than rectified that over the next few.

David Moyes will have to pray that he's given time like Fergie was because nobody can match his achievements. United fans will need to lower their expectations from now on.

if you look at brian clough record he took two unfashionable clubs in Derby and Forest that where at different times rooted to the bottom of the football league and not only took both up he won the first division and created a lasting legacy that we still see today with their stadiums fan base and trophy rooms. With forest he did alot better than derby winning the european cup not once but twice in a row which is still a very tough task to acheive.

The only two things he didnt do was win the fa cup and manage England

Bob paisley won the european cup 3 times and multiple league titles. really created the liverpool dynasty of the that their fanbase still live on today.

Fergie fans are gutted on twitter-

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Angry of Mayfair wrote:

if you look at brian clough record he took two unfashionable clubs in Derby and Forest that where at different times rooted to the bottom of the football league and not only took both up he won the first division and created a lasting legacy that we still see today with their stadiums fan base and trophy rooms. With forest he did alot better than derby winning the european cup not once but twice in a row which is still a very tough task to acheive.

The only two things he didnt do was win the fa cup and manage England

Bob paisley won the european cup 3 times and multiple league titles. really created the liverpool dynasty of the that their fanbase still live on today.

Very true but I think Shankly shares a lot of Paisley's credit and Ferguson has done it for so long I just think he is unrivalled.

13 league titles, 5 FA Cups, 4 league cups, 2 European cups and a cup winners cup. Plus the world club title when they had to pull out of the FA Cup.

He's had loads of money to spend but he's earned the right to have big money whereas Chelsea and City spent big to become successful and still can't match him.

The kids team had Beckham, Giggs, both Neville's, Scholes and Butt amongst others, all British which was the best achievement for me.

Thank God we don't have any games left to play or the President would be suggesting a few verses of "There's only one Alex Ferguson" in support of the poor upset fans of Man Utd

jones will organise a testamonial, im sure and dane will be first in the queue

Moyes has been confirmed in the post on a 6 year deal. Good luck to the man he has a n absolute mammoth job on his hands and i hope the man utd faithfully give him time and dont expect miracles to happen overnight.

Greenjock wrote:

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

if you look at brian clough record he took two unfashionable clubs in Derby and Forest that where at different times rooted to the bottom of the football league and not only took both up he won the first division and created a lasting legacy that we still see today with their stadiums fan base and trophy rooms. With forest he did alot better than derby winning the european cup not once but twice in a row which is still a very tough task to acheive.

The only two things he didnt do was win the fa cup and manage England

Bob paisley won the european cup 3 times and multiple league titles. really created the liverpool dynasty of the that their fanbase still live on today.

Very true but I think Shankly shares a lot of Paisley's credit and Ferguson has done it for so long I just think he is unrivalled.

13 league titles, 5 FA Cups, 4 league cups, 2 European cups and a cup winners cup. Plus the world club title when they had to pull out of the FA Cup.

He's had loads of money to spend but he's earned the right to have big money whereas Chelsea and City spent big to become successful and still can't match him.

The kids team had Beckham, Giggs, both Neville's, Scholes and Butt amongst others, all British which was the best achievement for me.

you got your dates confused gj they wont that in 2008

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

if you look at brian clough record he took two unfashionable clubs in Derby and Forest that where at different times rooted to the bottom of the football league and not only took both up he won the first division and created a lasting legacy that we still see today with their stadiums fan base and trophy rooms. With forest he did alot better than derby winning the european cup not once but twice in a row which is still a very tough task to acheive.

The only two things he didnt do was win the fa cup and manage England

Bob paisley won the european cup 3 times and multiple league titles. really created the liverpool dynasty of the that their fanbase still live on today.

Very true but I think Shankly shares a lot of Paisley's credit and Ferguson has done it for so long I just think he is unrivalled.

13 league titles, 5 FA Cups, 4 league cups, 2 European cups and a cup winners cup. Plus the world club title when they had to pull out of the FA Cup.

He's had loads of money to spend but he's earned the right to have big money whereas Chelsea and City spent big to become successful and still can't match him.

The kids team had Beckham, Giggs, both Neville's, Scholes and Butt amongst others, all British which was the best achievement for me.

you got your dates confused gj they wont that in 2008

Sorry I meant they had won the World Club thingy and they had to pull out of the FA Cup one year so they have won the FA Cup 5 times and one year never had the chance to win it.

Greenjock wrote:

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

if you look at brian clough record he took two unfashionable clubs in Derby and Forest that where at different times rooted to the bottom of the football league and not only took both up he won the first division and created a lasting legacy that we still see today with their stadiums fan base and trophy rooms. With forest he did alot better than derby winning the european cup not once but twice in a row which is still a very tough task to acheive.

The only two things he didnt do was win the fa cup and manage England

Bob paisley won the european cup 3 times and multiple league titles. really created the liverpool dynasty of the that their fanbase still live on today.

Very true but I think Shankly shares a lot of Paisley's credit and Ferguson has done it for so long I just think he is unrivalled.

13 league titles, 5 FA Cups, 4 league cups, 2 European cups and a cup winners cup. Plus the world club title when they had to pull out of the FA Cup.

He's had loads of money to spend but he's earned the right to have big money whereas Chelsea and City spent big to become successful and still can't match him.

The kids team had Beckham, Giggs, both Neville's, Scholes and Butt amongst others, all British which was the best achievement for me.

you got your dates confused gj they wont that in 2008

Sorry I meant they had won the World Club thingy and they had to pull out of the FA Cup one year so they have won the FA Cup 5 times and one year never had the chance to win it.

and with that withdrawal Fergie killed the fa cup of its magic and its still suffering today along with the fa playing the semis at wembley too.

I like to be perverse anyway but as I was based in the city at the time his Aberdeen team beating Real Madrid in the final of the 1983 European Cup Winners Cup in Gothenburg was his career highlight for me. Back in the day when you could enjoy a pint in pubs with players.

its going to be weird seeing someone else manage Man UTD after nextweek thats for true.

10/1 on them finish 8th next season some bookies are offering whilst i dont think they would i would say 2nd or 3rd is more likely given the special one is returning

Well I tried my best to hold it together. But it was an impossible task

Dane. wrote:

Well I tried my best to hold it together. But it was an impossible task

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Plastic Janners are vomit inducing. My name is Dane, I support McDonalds, Ford cars, Microsoft, Man Utd and Dyson vacuum cleaners.

There's a lovely myth that Man Utd don't spend lots of money - it's bollocks.

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Dane. wrote:

Well I tried my best to hold it together. But it was an impossible task

he's not dead you know

Doubt a plastic fan would have spent 600 quid on a ticket for the game today

think off all the nappies you could have bought for yourself and the new baby with that money

Historic day. Wanted to be there. Long way home now

£600 they saw you coming didt they lol

Black market 10 mins till Ko, some were price over a grand.