Anyone else had a letter from Philip Ross Solicitors ?.

Dane. wrote:

Things are getting out of hand !!

that is certainly true dane, BUT why all this aggrevation over a tin pot nothing club which will never achieve anything?
that for me is the million dollar question.
was telling a cooleague of mine about what goes on regarding PAFC on the net & his reaction was 'who the f*** do these people think PAFC is Real Madrid?'

IF this new stand gets rejected is brent threatening (privately to the in-crowd of course) to pull the plug, that for me would explain why SO MANY seem hell bent on letting him get his way & doing anything they can to silence detractors.

funnily enough i though grovehill's comments before about his work being contacted about his postings couldnt possibly be true BUT a recent comment to a post on made on another site have made me think again.

The work thing is a joke, that peoples livelihood that is being messed with

JonB wrote:

Sorry Tis,

I wonder if you're quoting American law, not British.

In the UK the 'operator of the site' assumes responsibility for the material that appears. The operators of a moderated site attract more responsibility again.

That responsibility is only assumed if the operator refuses to remove a notified item on a timely basis, Wednesbury applying, I know sweet FA about American Law.

power or rather supposed power/influence is going to some peoples heads i would say.

the problem is employers are only too happy to investigate employees for wrong doing

Elias wrote:

the problem is employers are only too happy to investigate employees for wrong doing

Is that a bad thing then ?

Im still very interested as to how a brief managed to write to Village Green by his real name and address when its virtually impossible to obtain the means to that without hacking info to get that or breaking data protection laws.

Same could be said as to why Tony Hooper was hired to snoop on Greenjock for no legit reason at all.

And we call this supporting a football club its more like watching law and order.

Hopefully Village Green gets some answers from them pretty quickly.

Yea Man wrote:

Hopefully Village Green gets some answers from them pretty quickly.

has there been any dodgy accounts registering lately? Village says he hasnt used pasoti so it leaves an unknowing attack on this place being teh front runner in my eyes.

Lord Tisdale wrote:

JonB wrote:

Sorry Tis,

I wonder if you're quoting American law, not British.

In the UK the 'operator of the site' assumes responsibility for the material that appears. The operators of a moderated site attract more responsibility again.

That responsibility is only assumed if the operator refuses to remove a notified item on a timely basis, Wednesbury applying, I know sweet FA about American Law.

It's still a bit hit and miss in the UK but that law has changed and there have been won cases regarding it.

Angry of Manchester wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

Hopefully Village Green gets some answers from them pretty quickly.

has there been any dodgy accounts registering lately? Village says he hasnt used pasoti so it leaves an unknowing attack on this place being teh front runner in my eyes.

No "real" names or addresses are required on ATD. My odds are on this coming from a data base somewhere.

GOB wrote:

Angry of Manchester wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

Hopefully Village Green gets some answers from them pretty quickly.

has there been any dodgy accounts registering lately? Village says he hasnt used pasoti so it leaves an unknowing attack on this place being teh front runner in my eyes.

No "real" names or addresses are required on ATD. My odds are on this coming from a data base somewhere.

they dont need to be you can get the address of anyone once you have the IP address. They are there to locate you. then there is always the electrol register too.

Lord Tisdale is Spartacus.

(That's cooked his goose).

GOB wrote:

Lord Tisdale wrote:

JonB wrote:

Sorry Tis,

I wonder if you're quoting American law, not British.

In the UK the 'operator of the site' assumes responsibility for the material that appears. The operators of a moderated site attract more responsibility again.

That responsibility is only assumed if the operator refuses to remove a notified item on a timely basis, Wednesbury applying, I know sweet FA about American Law.

It's still a bit hit and miss in the UK but that law has changed and there have been won cases regarding it.

Sorry, what I meant to put was that although on moderated sites and a comprehensive definition of what constitutes a moderated site still doesn't exist allowing differentiation between leviathons like FB, Tw@ter and sleeping leviathins like ATD, the responsibility is assumed, while liability 'may' be applied in unspecific circumstances.

Pretty hit and miss but with little or no chance of a judgement or significant damages being given against a site such as this as long as the moderators could be shown to have acted with reasonably good faith.

A bigger issue would be where there was a pattern of unmoderated abuse over a long period of time which had to be justified as being reasonable, who would be a moderator eh ?

More important is Village getting justice for the violation of his right to privacy, somebody somewhere needs to pay and looking at the circs I think we could all make a wild stab in the dark as to where responsibility lies on that one.

Lord Tisdale wrote:

GOB wrote:

Lord Tisdale wrote:

JonB wrote:

Sorry Tis,

I wonder if you're quoting American law, not British.

In the UK the 'operator of the site' assumes responsibility for the material that appears. The operators of a moderated site attract more responsibility again.

That responsibility is only assumed if the operator refuses to remove a notified item on a timely basis, Wednesbury applying, I know sweet FA about American Law.

It's still a bit hit and miss in the UK but that law has changed and there have been won cases regarding it.

Sorry, what I meant to put was that although on moderated sites and a comprehensive definition of what constitutes a moderated site still doesn't exist allowing differentiation between leviathons like FB, Tw@ter and sleeping leviathins like ATD, the responsibility is assumed, while liability 'may' be applied in unspecific circumstances.

Pretty hit and miss but with little or no chance of a judgement or significant damages being given against a site such as this as long as the moderators could be shown to have acted with reasonably good faith.

A bigger issue would be where there was a pattern of unmoderated abuse over a long period of time which had to be justified as being reasonable, who would be a moderator eh ?

More important is Village getting justice for the violation of his right to privacy, somebody somewhere needs to pay and looking at the circs I think we could all make a wild stab in the dark as to where responsibility lies on that one.

The last para is absolutely bang on the money. I believe a Line has been crossed and someone needs a lesson taught

Sorry but on another note....there is a whole world of porn out there which caters hardcore for every whim, fantasy and even blokes who like big birds. In which case why can I note take my eyes off Angry of Manchester's avatar....?

It's the eyes and smirk...that is one luverly lady...

Angry of Manchester wrote:

GOB wrote:

Angry of Manchester wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

Hopefully Village Green gets some answers from them pretty quickly.

has there been any dodgy accounts registering lately? Village says he hasnt used pasoti so it leaves an unknowing attack on this place being teh front runner in my eyes.

No "real" names or addresses are required on ATD. My odds are on this coming from a data base somewhere.

they dont need to be you can get the address of anyone once you have the IP address. They are there to locate you. then there is always the electrol register too.

True as long as you're prepared to go to the trouble to get it and server companies don't like to give it unless it's a matter for the government and law so maybe VG should first contact his service provider and ask if they have incorrectly disclosed his private and personal information and if they haven't I believe they will help him to investigate it.

It will be interesting to find out but it does need to be found out.

Maybe Nikk himself will volunteer the information?

Pokesdown wrote:

Sorry but on another note....there is a whole world of porn out there which caters hardcore for every whim, fantasy and even blokes who like big birds. In which case why can I note take my eyes off Angry of Manchester's avatar....?

It's the eyes and smirk...that is one luverly lady...

I know what you mean lol. So bouncy for a slight lass!

I don't know why but I reckon she's Russian or eastern European.

Obviously it's her hair colour that grabs the attention!

Who is she?

Back to reality...

...What the fecking hell is going on at your football club?

In my West London flat, I have a beautifully bound eight-volume set of Edward Gibbon's "Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire". It's a tale full of hubris, intrigue, machiavellian power struggles, personality cults, empire building (quite literally) and back-stabbing (again quite literally) all played out by a cast of dictators, egomaniacs, fawning self-serving quislings and deeply unpleasant conspirators, all of whom appear to be blessed with apparently inexhaustible reserves of rat-like cunning.

While it's a cracking good read, The Saga Of Plymouth Argyle makes it look like the script for an episode of Balamory.

(Interesting that the words "Dictator" and "Censor" come from Ancient Rome in the first place BTW).

At least if I ever need evidence to convince anyone of the potential dangers of private ownership of football clubs, I can point to the history of Plymouth Argyle.

I'm not having a dig BTW. Even I feel a bit wound up about it all at times - and you're supposed to be the enemy.

Strange world.

What a sad state of affairs for our fanbase.

As far as I'm concerned, Nikkk is a fekn coward. As a member here he had every right to challenge anything derogatory towards his company either publicly or via PM (in most instances the chosen route). Instead he chose to team up with @teamwanker and make an issue which involved probably one of ATD's most reasonable and fair minded posters.

Get your fekn head in the real world of football forums Nikk, otherwise you'll find yourself most unwanted!

Whilst it's not something to laugh at for village green I do find it funny as feck that they got completely the wrong person and address.

They probably charged a small fortune to send that letter too and it went to completely the wrong person

I wonder if the pasoti mafia will pass all of our details over in the hope that eventually they'll get it right.

And all this could have easily been resolved by a simple email to the mods pointing out the post I'm question which was unfortunately missed by the mods.

Yea Man wrote:

Whilst it's not something to laugh at for village green I do find it funny as feck that they got completely the wrong person and address.

I appreciate where you're coming from but this cannot be seen as a 'funny as feck' situation. This is bullying of the highest order from whom I regard as the most immoral of people. An ordinary fan would not behave in this manner. Who the feck is he even?

Coxside_Green wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

Whilst it's not something to laugh at for village green I do find it funny as feck that they got completely the wrong person and address.

I appreciate where you're coming from but this cannot be seen as a 'funny as feck' situation. This is bullying of the highest order from whom I regard as the most immoral of people. An ordinary fan would not behave in this manner. Who the feck is he even?

It's hardly in isolation though is it? I'm assuming that the sending of John Petrie's hacked information to Peter Jones was illegal. Has he made any comment on.the matter? This is a director of the football club FFS.

Anyway, I'm sure Brent takes a very dim view of the actions of his footsoldiers.

Shame he can't say so.

jabba the gut ecfc wrote:

Coxside_Green wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

Whilst it's not something to laugh at for village green I do find it funny as feck that they got completely the wrong person and address.

I appreciate where you're coming from but this cannot be seen as a 'funny as feck' situation. This is bullying of the highest order from whom I regard as the most immoral of people. An ordinary fan would not behave in this manner. Who the feck is he even?

It's hardly in isolation though is it? I'm assuming that the sending of John Petrie's hacked information to Peter Jones was illegal. Has he made any comment on.the matter? This is a director of the football club FFS.

Anyway, I'm sure Brent takes a very dim view of the actions of his footsoldiers.

Shame he can't say so.

Correct, it's not in isolation. Football should be about enjoyment, banter and a day out. Brent obviously takes a dim view of football supporters for this BS to happen. Go on Brent, sue me!