Keith Todd v Paul S

Noseyparker wrote:

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

and a daughter who liked first team players

Genuine question. Do you have daughter(s)?

Bit forward aren't you? You hardly know each other.

The problem was allowing players to leave, in january for feck sake, during no sensible club does business and then a desperate rush to sign players for peanuts offering them stupid wages to relocate. It was amateur night from start to finish and we got taken to the cleaners. No Stapleton pardon from me.

Problem was, none of these people had ran football clubs before but at least were football fans. So had half a chance i guess.

So what do we have now? Someone who hasn't got a clue about football who has never ran a football club being advised by Ian Newell and Chris Webb.

Its as simple as that.

We're just two players short of a good team.

Feck me I would love to meet the thick tw@t who told Brent that I really would.

The same people who spent a year of there lives paying an over rated Darren purse rent to live up his arse

Dane. wrote:

The same people who spent a year of there lives paying an over rated Darren purse rent to live up his arse

All those fishing trips, he only became friends with him because he fancied Mrs Purse

Dane. wrote:

Problem was, none of these people had ran football clubs before but at least were football fans. So had half a chance i guess.

So what do we have now? Someone who hasn't got a clue about football who has never ran a football club being advised by Ian Newell and Chris Webb.

Its as simple as that.

A good point raised there. We also had a fairly sound financial footing and got very lucky by appointing the right manager at the right time through it seemed luck rather than judement. Also the people you mentioned weren't so prominent at the time.

The way i see it, Webb and Newell are opportunists who took advantage of argyles problems to forfill there own agendas.

Stapletons Board were excellient at the start. Everything was great during the ''Run by the fans for the fans'' days. Bu then these waters soon got muddied.

They did get very lucky where by the appointed sturrock who built a double title winning team on a next to nothing budget.

I think brent is hoping for the same slice of luck,

I thought Mc666 appointed Sturrock?

Mike Searle wrote:

I thought Mc666 appointed Sturrock?

It was his last act as chairman before selling up to Stapes I think.

YES you could be right with that one. So i guess Stapletons lot just got lucky at the timing they managed to buy the club.

Mc666 got the deal done for the 3 sides of the ground to be done as well i believe. So what did Stapletons board do apart from ride the wave of 2 title wins provided by sturrock?

He almost didn't as he would he would have appointed Ian Adkins. If it wasn't for David Byrne who happened to know that sturrock was looking for a new challenge it would never have happened.

Yea Man wrote:

Mike Searle wrote:

I thought Mc666 appointed Sturrock?

It was his last act as chairman before selling up to Stapes I think.

Not quite true as he stayed on the board until he got back all the money he lent the club. Thank Christ nix warren wrote out a cheque to stop mcauley putting a stop to the run by fans for fans board.

Where is he now I wonder? Stood on the terraces and never looked for glory. We need his like again.

Dane. wrote:

YES you could be right with that one. So i guess Stapletons lot just got lucky at the timing they managed to buy the club.

Mc666 got the deal done for the 3 sides of the ground to be done as well i believe. So what did Stapletons board do apart from ride the wave of 2 title wins provided by sturrock?

What have the Romans ever done for us?

Tringreen wrote:

Enjoy the ride ! I'll never hear a bad word said about that man and his lovely family !

Janner mafia rules ok.

No class. No style. No understanding. None of them.

Clumsy sarcasm.

If you held down a position of responsibility and if things went wrong how would you feel if some individuals made disgraceful & disrespectful comments against your family?

I don't think any decent MAN could ever condone this happening. Anyone who even made inferences to that effect should be hauled over the coals and banned for a period of time from any forum.

Just saying....

Greenskin wrote:

Damon.Lenszner wrote:

I don't know anything about Sturrocks relationship with those players.

I do know Akos was not Ollies favourite player.

I also know that nobody at the Club could not halt the sale of Sylvan, he wanted to go and there was a clause in his contract (a contract he wouldn't sign without the clause being inserted) saying that if we were to be offered £1.5million he had to be released.

I also think that to stand in the way of any player wanting to move to a Premiership club at the age of 17 would have been out of order.

I also know that to refuse a transfer request by a player (Norris) leads to a lose lose situation for all.

There is no loyalty in football. There is no fault in players wanting to move on. Every club is a selling club, every player has a price. Spurs can't hang on to Bale - what chance of Argyle hanging on to Ebanks Blake?

Akos may not have been Holloways favourite player but that didn't stop him from picking him for 8 out of the 12 matches prior to his departure in 2008.

Your comments about Gosling sum up for me why this club has never really taken off and achieved what it is capable of.Six months at Argyle would have done his career no harm at all,especially since he would have been playing more first team football at HP than he did at Everton.Not to mention the wider issue of his presence in the squad being very benefiicial in helping the push for promotion-who knows,it may have been instrumental in getting Argyle up,from where he would have had a premier base anyway.No mention of the aspirations of the fan base,no wonder the wider public in the area is so apathetic about the club.

I'm well aware that there's no loyalty in football.There is such a thing though as showing the necessary ambition and wherwithal to convince players that their personal goals can be reached at HP.I would surmise that Norris and Ebanks Blake would not have been persuaded in any way that their futures lay at HP by the departure of Buzz and Gosling and the certain knowledge that inferior players would be brought in to replace them.Puzzles me who a club like Swansea,starting from a position of far less strength in every way than Argyle,could keep hold of their best players on their rise up through the leagues and add to them at the appropriate time.Why would that be? Something in the water up there or a genuine desire on the part of their upper tier of their management to progress the club? The latter,i would suspect.

Bang on the money as usual Greenskin. By god it's frustrating that so many can't or won't understand the bigger picture.

Hugh Watt wrote:

He almost didn't as he would he would have appointed Ian Adkins. If it wasn't for David Byrne who happened to know that sturrock was looking for a new challenge it would never have happened.

More fibs!

Greenjock wrote:

Noseyparker wrote:

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

and a daughter who liked first team players

Genuine question. Do you have daughter(s)?

Bit forward aren't you? You hardly know each other.

Deflection tactics? I think so

Noseyparker wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

He almost didn't as he would he would have appointed Ian Adkins. If it wasn't for David Byrne who happened to know that sturrock was looking for a new challenge it would never have happened.

More fibs!

Good grief,he's an expert in that era,as well.Is there no end to this mans knowledge? Would appreciate a briefing on what actually took place Mr Nosey Parker.

Nobody said I was an expert old chap, just having a debate!

Noseyparker wrote:

Nobody said I was an expert old chap, just having a debate!

Fair enough.Would you care then to debate further in which respect Hugh Watt was telling fibs?

Who is saying that Mr Watt hasn't made that information up? It seems to me that there are an awful lot of things on here that are blatantly made up & become, after time, urban myth

That's my point really

Noseyparker wrote:

Who is saying that Mr Watt hasn't made that information up? It seems to me that there are an awful lot of things on here that are blatantly made up & become, after time, urban myth

That's my point really

Obviously Mr Watt could make the same point back at you.

Nosey, do you think that the people who were passing Stapes' phone number around to all and sundry should be rewarded with positions at the club and seats in the directors box?

Noseyparker wrote:

Who is saying that Mr Watt hasn't made that information up? It seems to me that there are an awful lot of things on here that are blatantly made up & become, after time, urban myth

That's my point really

But how do we really know you aren't doing the same?

Although the mods know who you are it doesn't mean we can vouch for the stuff you talk about.

For all we know you could be the one making stuff up to improve Stapleton's image.

For what it's worth the campaign against Stapleton and his family was feckin ridiculous and Ian Newell should have been punished for giving his number out on pasoti.

He openly admitted that he didn't regret doing it and was right to do it.