Today's Chip Paper

Greenjock wrote:

Mrrapson wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

The problem is, your hero has already been shown up as a proven liar having previously denied (categorically) using the Deepthroat account. Whether the distinguished Pres has posted as Greenman is almost irrelevant.

What is wholely relevant, is that you can guarantee he knows exactly who has used it. He's no doubt span you the story, which is why your bleating right now.

Behaviour befitting of the club President? F*ck off!

Chris hasn't spun me any story. Haven't had a proper conversation with him since the week his old man passed away.

You lot show righteous indignation over Chris and Ian and yet it's perfectly acceptable for others to use multis on here?

Dane bunney - ok you dealt with him but bet you a tenner he's still here
Paul Thomas - definitely still on here
Mark Pedlar - admitted having multis on here
Cerbs - admitted having multis on here.

One poster even posts from pl2 3dq for Christ sake and yet nothing has been done about that. This site has more agendas than an un convention meeting.

I like what Mark Pedlar has done, he's made an effort to build bridges, perhaps some of the mods here could take a leaf from his book?

So which account does Paul Thomas have now? And Bunney?

Cerbs admitted having multiple accounts buy I don't know what they were. I called him out on one of them on a thread and it disappeared. Mark Pedlar said he has or had multiple accounts but what are the others? The mods on here know there's an account used by several Pasoti mods and have asked them nicely to delete it.

Now that makes it a touch different ti having accounts to make threats or attack the trust don't you think Leigh? I agree with you on this one. I think Newell, Postey, Webb, Jameson, Ponty, soper and wozzer should be banned from Pasoti, plus all Webb's imaginary friends with accounts.

Imaginary indeed. I've lost track, but was it Dogger that was a 'good friend' of the Pres?

That's like phoning the VD Clinic and saying "oh yes I wonder if you can help me, I've got a, ahem, 'good friend' who has a nasty rash on his knob..."

GreenSam wrote:

punchdrunk wrote:

I think there are plenty of alternatives,just not anyone connected to the filthy, stinking evil cesspit known as Pasoti, that website is entwined with deceit, lies and corruption from top to bottom .

And i believe that you Knecht are its unofficial emissary on ATD.
The sooner you are voted off as a moderator on here the better.

So you dislike Pasoti as you've stated many times because it's a website that persecutes all those with a differing point of view and tries to drown them out.

Yet you feel that someone who holds a different point of view to you should be voted off the ATD team. Righto then.

You refer to Pasoti as the farm. It seems to me that if we make the analogy to Orwell's book more solid, Pasoti is the initial capitalist society which you seek to overthrow and it really strikes me that you, the would be revolutionary 'animal' who would seek to then repress free speech if this reply to Knecht is anything to go by. All in the name of protection from evil influence obviously. Thankfully I have much more faith in the mods of this site than I do in you.

And if you're going to call me an emissary as well, I'm sticking up for knecht not Pasoti. He comes across as a great guy who merely has the temerity to have a different opinion from yourself and I think that needed saying.

Knecht has been a great mod for this site and I hope he stands again in future elections.

None of the mods have any problem with him whatsoever and he offers a lot more than just hot air in the mod room.

If a subject is raised and Knecht makes a post/point then it's always with a degree of thought and rationale behind it rather than just acting on instinct.

Yea Man wrote:

Chris Webb held another banned account on here "The Spooner".

The IP of "The Spooner" was banned after it was discussed that it could be a multi.

That day, Webb contacted the mods asking why his home IP had been banned.

No other IP had been banned by the mods between Webb last being able to log on and him contacting the mods.

To date he never did provide his IP so that the matter could be investigated, if he wasn't posting as "The Spooner" then what did he have to hide?

A proven liar on more than one occasion.

If Webb and the rest of the clique aren't behind Greenman then the real culprit should own up. They can do it privately by sending a PM or an email to the mods.

As thick as thieves, the lot of them. The one person they simply have to protect is Webb. If people can't see that by now, they never will. If he admits to anything to do with Greenman, his days as honorary pres are over.
Thinking back to the quite remarkably disturbing public flickr account of the central figure in all of this, wasn't there a letter or email from Rickler to the then Chairman of the trust, asking a perfectly civil question, which mysteriously found its way onto the flickr account holders manic horde ?
Now how did that happen ?
Joined at the hip I tell you.

Mrrapson wrote:

Well done tring, valuable contribution to the conversation. At least I'm fighting my corner.

And no doubt your reward of a Directors Box invite will be winging its way to you as we speak!

Ponty wrote:

Now the mods on here have a multi account over there....

Here's a challenge for them.

If they can prove there is a multi account with me being involved I will donate one hundred pounds to
A charity of their choice.
I give them permission to disclose any ip information they hold on me to any third party needed.

Thanks for that offer Ponty but sadly we won't be taking you up on it.

Why?

Because like you're REAL pal Newell (You know the one who told us he thought you were Greenman posting when you're pissed) you know how to manipulate an IP address and make it impossible to give an exact location.

As we keep being told, IP's are only half good at tracing somebody so why are you so keen to provide your IP now?

All of the mods over there know full well what happens when posting from a mobile phone network and that is how you share accounts over here and how Greenman got away with most of their posts.

We didn't say which mods over there had the account did we? Guilty conscience?

We KNOW that an account on here is shared by some Pasoti mods.

Czarcasm wrote:

Mrrapson wrote:

Well done tring, valuable contribution to the conversation. At least I'm fighting my corner.

And no doubt your reward of a Directors Box invite will be winging its way to you as we speak!

Haha you're a funny fella! Even if the offer was there I wouldn't take it. Much happier with my paid for season ticket in the demport ta.

And Windsor Boy is who? ......

The multi-account issue isn't really about who has set up and used a multi-account. It's more about what they were used for.

Mods should have them to test the forum software they use - that's quite normal on forums. Using them for 'other purposes' however isn't normal and that's why almost all forums have rules that using multi-accounts will see those accounts deleted.

It might seem clever and funny to wind someone up or threaten them using a multi-account but what it actualoy does is undermine the integrity of the forum they're used on. Pasoti mods and the prominent posters on there have taken the moral high ground against ATD and it now appears they were allowing this stuff to go on - it's double standards and it's the hypocrisy that annoys people on here and on pasoti. It achieves nothing but cause ill feeling.

Some of the people on here though don't do themselves any favours.

Yea Man wrote:

GreenSam wrote:

punchdrunk wrote:

I think there are plenty of alternatives,just not anyone connected to the filthy, stinking evil cesspit known as Pasoti, that website is entwined with deceit, lies and corruption from top to bottom .

And i believe that you Knecht are its unofficial emissary on ATD.
The sooner you are voted off as a moderator on here the better.

So you dislike Pasoti as you've stated many times because it's a website that persecutes all those with a differing point of view and tries to drown them out.

Yet you feel that someone who holds a different point of view to you should be voted off the ATD team. Righto then.

You refer to Pasoti as the farm. It seems to me that if we make the analogy to Orwell's book more solid, Pasoti is the initial capitalist society which you seek to overthrow and it really strikes me that you, the would be revolutionary 'animal' who would seek to then repress free speech if this reply to Knecht is anything to go by. All in the name of protection from evil influence obviously. Thankfully I have much more faith in the mods of this site than I do in you.

And if you're going to call me an emissary as well, I'm sticking up for knecht not Pasoti. He comes across as a great guy who merely has the temerity to have a different opinion from yourself and I think that needed saying.

Knecht has been a great mod for this site and I hope he stands again in future elections.

None of the mods have any problem with him whatsoever and he offers a lot more than just hot air in the mod room.

If a subject is raised and Knecht makes a post/point then it's always with a degree of thought and rationale behind it rather than just acting on instinct.

Absolutely. I'm not sure where this came from but I can't imagine anyone being a better, fairer mod than knecht, although they're all damn good if you ask me.

I'm sure there is a lot mode dirt to be attached to Webb yet and those that will attach it will do so when they are ready. In the meantime ATD will continue to wait for two things, Webb's IP address at the time and, contact from his "legal team" as he advised many, many months ago.

Yea Man wrote:

Ponty wrote:

Now the mods on here have a multi account over there....

Here's a challenge for them.

If they can prove there is a multi account with me being involved I will donate one hundred pounds to
A charity of their choice.
I give them permission to disclose any ip information they hold on me to any third party needed.

Thanks for that offer Ponty but sadly we won't be taking you up on it.

Why?

Because like you're REAL pal Newell (You know the one who told us he thought you were Greenman posting when you're pissed) you know how to manipulate an IP address and make it impossible to give an exact location.

As we keep being told, IP's are only half good at tracing somebody so why are you so keen to provide your IP now?

All of the mods over there know full well what happens when posting from a mobile phone network and that is how you share accounts over here and how Greenman got away with most of their posts.

We didn't say which mods over there had the account did we? Guilty conscience?

We KNOW that an account on here is shared by some Pasoti mods.

And here's a challenge for you Ponty, ask Postey to finish off what he started and tell all, or get the rest of the gang to man up.

Greenjock wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

GreenSam wrote:

punchdrunk wrote:

I think there are plenty of alternatives,just not anyone connected to the filthy, stinking evil cesspit known as Pasoti, that website is entwined with deceit, lies and corruption from top to bottom .

And i believe that you Knecht are its unofficial emissary on ATD.
The sooner you are voted off as a moderator on here the better.

So you dislike Pasoti as you've stated many times because it's a website that persecutes all those with a differing point of view and tries to drown them out.

Yet you feel that someone who holds a different point of view to you should be voted off the ATD team. Righto then.

You refer to Pasoti as the farm. It seems to me that if we make the analogy to Orwell's book more solid, Pasoti is the initial capitalist society which you seek to overthrow and it really strikes me that you, the would be revolutionary 'animal' who would seek to then repress free speech if this reply to Knecht is anything to go by. All in the name of protection from evil influence obviously. Thankfully I have much more faith in the mods of this site than I do in you.

And if you're going to call me an emissary as well, I'm sticking up for knecht not Pasoti. He comes across as a great guy who merely has the temerity to have a different opinion from yourself and I think that needed saying.

Knecht has been a great mod for this site and I hope he stands again in future elections.

None of the mods have any problem with him whatsoever and he offers a lot more than just hot air in the mod room.

If a subject is raised and Knecht makes a post/point then it's always with a degree of thought and rationale behind it rather than just acting on instinct.

Absolutely. I'm not sure where this came from but I can't imagine anyone being a better, fairer mod than knecht, although they're all damn good if you ask me.

Punchy seems to have a "thing" for Knecht but it's easy enough to solve.

I suggest that the two run directly against each other in a mod election and the loser gets a place back on pasoti

I would put a months wages on who I think the winner would be.

Tim Chown wrote:

pilgrim_pete wrote:

Just because Tim does a bit of googling and comes up with a vague response about BT servers, does not clear anyone.

Just to be clear, my post simply suggests that there appears to be a perfectly plausible explanation as to why two people posting to ATD on the same day might both appear, through no fault of their own, to be using the same or similar IP address.

Many thanks Tim.

There could be a perfectly plausible explanation why Webb's IP address appears to be the same (or similar) to that of Greenman.

But Webb is a proven liar who has used multiple and anonymous accounts to attack people online. He is also joined at the hip to the biggest internet troll in Argyle's online history.

Greenjock wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

GreenSam wrote:

punchdrunk wrote:

I think there are plenty of alternatives,just not anyone connected to the filthy, stinking evil cesspit known as Pasoti, that website is entwined with deceit, lies and corruption from top to bottom .

And i believe that you Knecht are its unofficial emissary on ATD.
The sooner you are voted off as a moderator on here the better.

So you dislike Pasoti as you've stated many times because it's a website that persecutes all those with a differing point of view and tries to drown them out.

Yet you feel that someone who holds a different point of view to you should be voted off the ATD team. Righto then.

You refer to Pasoti as the farm. It seems to me that if we make the analogy to Orwell's book more solid, Pasoti is the initial capitalist society which you seek to overthrow and it really strikes me that you, the would be revolutionary 'animal' who would seek to then repress free speech if this reply to Knecht is anything to go by. All in the name of protection from evil influence obviously. Thankfully I have much more faith in the mods of this site than I do in you.

And if you're going to call me an emissary as well, I'm sticking up for knecht not Pasoti. He comes across as a great guy who merely has the temerity to have a different opinion from yourself and I think that needed saying.

Knecht has been a great mod for this site and I hope he stands again in future elections.

None of the mods have any problem with him whatsoever and he offers a lot more than just hot air in the mod room.

If a subject is raised and Knecht makes a post/point then it's always with a degree of thought and rationale behind it rather than just acting on instinct.

Absolutely. I'm not sure where this came from but I can't imagine anyone being a better, fairer mod than knecht, although they're all damn good if you ask me.

Not sure either Jock, Punchy's original comment seemed to come out of the blue.

I wonder if Knecht is being castigated for the heinous crime of attending the sponsors lunch and generally being totally reasonable although he has been damned by Newell saying that he trusted Knecht.

From a personal point of view I have often read threads where Knecht has posted in a perfectly sensible and reasoned way and managed to open up an alternative viewpoint. That calmness and perspective would seem to me to make a good Mod.

There is something 'fiddling while Rome burns' about all this. But it is symbolic of the omnishambles that is our football club. Some might call it petty jealousy but whilst some REAL superfans benefit from Brents largesse (and a liking for minor celebrities)and are neutered because of that and in some ways are above criticism (whilst acting as a breakwater for any criticism aimed at Brents board). We are crap and very nearly beyond crap yet there are those with some influence in the club playing silly antagonistic sods. How that are not facing a charge of bringing the club into disrepute from our favourite PI is beyond me (and I reserve the biggest rise of my unruly eyebrow for the club directors anonymous postings).

When we are fighting (or rather limping) to make sure we are at least the 3rd worst team in the whole of the football league it's all rather absurd that these people play out there putrid little games from a position of power.

Greenjock wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

Ponty wrote:

Now the mods on here have a multi account over there....

Here's a challenge for them.

If they can prove there is a multi account with me being involved I will donate one hundred pounds to
A charity of their choice.
I give them permission to disclose any ip information they hold on me to any third party needed.

Thanks for that offer Ponty but sadly we won't be taking you up on it.

Why?

Because like you're REAL pal Newell (You know the one who told us he thought you were Greenman posting when you're pissed) you know how to manipulate an IP address and make it impossible to give an exact location.

As we keep being told, IP's are only half good at tracing somebody so why are you so keen to provide your IP now?

All of the mods over there know full well what happens when posting from a mobile phone network and that is how you share accounts over here and how Greenman got away with most of their posts.

We didn't say which mods over there had the account did we? Guilty conscience?

We KNOW that an account on here is shared by some Pasoti mods.

And here's a challenge for you Ponty, ask Postey to finish off what he started and tell all, or get the rest of the gang to man up.

To be fair to Ponty I have never had reason to doubt that he has not used more than one account, spam forums? Yes. Post disgusting abuse? Yes, but there's no evidence to suggest he has used more than one account.

However other pasoti mods have, as we are now aware.

If Ponty is on about the FA account then he is not one of the mods we suspect of sharing an account.

Every time I see this I laugh

Of course The President isn't beyond making false accusations. I'm still waiting for his apology for publicly stating that I harass celebrities using foul language on Twitter. Guess that was only banter Mr President.

I'm starting to lose the technical plot a bit but as there is so much intent being shown by Pasoti mods there is obviously something in all this. As said previously, so many lies seem to have stated that it is impossible for normal posters not to think the worst of the situations. The 2 names that keep cropping up are at the top of the Janner tree and it looks like they are both being sheilded by their friends, all I can say is keep up the pressure until the real truth is out!

Jaytex2012 wrote:

I'm starting to lose the technical plot a bit but as there is so much intent being shown by Pasoti mods there is obviously something in all this. As said previously, so many lies seem to have stated that it is impossible for normal posters not to think the worst of the situations. The 2 names that keep cropping up are at the top of the Janner tree and it looks like they are both being sheilded by their friends, all I can say is keep up the pressure until the real truth is out!

And it doesn't hide the fact that the other "Greenmen" still haven't come forward.

Jaytex2012 wrote:

I'm starting to lose the technical plot a bit but as there is so much intent being shown by Pasoti mods there is obviously something in all this. As said previously, so many lies seem to have stated that it is impossible for normal posters not to think the worst of the situations. The 2 names that keep cropping up are at the top of the Janner tree and it looks like they are both being sheilded by their friends, all I can say is keep up the pressure until the real truth is out!

You're not alone with those vibes JTex. I don't think it's any coincidence that there is a concerted effort by a few to gain what information there is about Webb. Mark P, Ade, Rapson, the comments on pasoti etc. the playing of two fiddles is clear to see but it's fun watching

Webb is up to his neck in shyte, they know, we know and Webb knows it and we'll just sit back and be amused by the antics until the balloon goes *POP*!

Frank Bullitt wrote:

Jaytex2012 wrote:

I'm starting to lose the technical plot a bit but as there is so much intent being shown by Pasoti mods there is obviously something in all this. As said previously, so many lies seem to have stated that it is impossible for normal posters not to think the worst of the situations. The 2 names that keep cropping up are at the top of the Janner tree and it looks like they are both being sheilded by their friends, all I can say is keep up the pressure until the real truth is out!

And it doesn't hide the fact that the other "Greenmen" still haven't come forward.

It's a mess but all of their own making.

Has The President popped into the Cherry Tree yet or is that pleasure to still to come?

I reckon it's hard to take the moral high ground when you've been involved in the ATD spoof site but I see some people are still trying.