The great Pasoti clean-up begins.

This is enthralling. Pasoti meltdown or BBC meltdown? Who needs X factor with this shit for entertainment.

PS: Just where are the three pigs in all this - very quiet. Again!!

Modding is really a slippery slope. We joke about North Korea over the road but that's what actually happens from the smallest of beginnings of control and editing. As Czarky or SFD said long ago "anybody who wants to be a mod is probably unsuitable to be one".

My advice would always to do and say the very least possible, it's highly unlikely given the nature of the beast that confidential mod room discussions will remain like that in perpituity. That said I'm not in favour of deleting those discussions either.

I believe in our electorial system on here, it should be taken seriously and not be a pure popularity contest. It provides the minimum of checks and balances to this weird forum world and Pasoti would be well advised to think seriously about emulating us.

Charlie Wood wrote:

Modding is really a slippery slope. We joke about North Korea over the road but that's what actually happens from the smallest of beginnings of control and editing. As Czarky or SFD said long ago "anybody who wants to be a mod is probably unsuitable to be one".

My advice would always to do and say the very least possible, it's highly unlikely given the nature of the beast that confidential mod room discussions will remain like that in perpituity. That said I'm not in favour of deleting those discussions either.

I believe in our electorial system on here, it should be taken seriously and not be a pure popularity contest. It provides the minimum of checks and balances to this weird forum world and Pasoti would be well advised to think seriously about emulating us.

To be fair Charlie it was tried on pasoti, Newell was elected but it was the first and last election that pasoti ever had, after that Newell decided that he "didn't believe in democracy" any longer.

Any post by any poster must now be suspect over there.

So, having skimmed over the two threads, let's see if I have this right?

1. A couple of Mods on Pasoti experiment and discover that as a mod they can post under the identity of anyone else registered?

2. These two mods (one of which is Ottowa Green/Millbridge Mike - mods are still allowed multi's I take it?) post as each other to confirm their discovery and OG/MM uses the account of the recently deceased Bex - who I also knew personally - again to confirm their discovery, but in the privacy of the mod room? All this happening 18 months ago?

3. A former pasoti mod (is it Newell or is that an assumption?) keeps the screen shots of the experimental messages - just in case a rainy day arrives and he gets the hump with one of the current mods in question?

4. That rainy day has now arrived so Newell uses one of the puppets to put the information out there?

Is all this correct?

I knew Bex, and even if the posts in question never made it out of the mod room, it is still in extremely poor taste, and I find myself absolutely disgusted.

That's about it although nobody has mentioned Newell's name yet.

Surely the ex mod should have deleted the screen shots after the Flickr scandal and certainly after leaving the Pasoti mod team? What other information is the ex mod holding?

So, there is not one single post on pasoti that can ever be taken seriously.

That's actually one of those there oxymorons isn't it?

I'll put a screenshot up later from Flickr which shows that there is a pasoti mod function to change the poster of a written post (seemed to have been used during deep throat). The screenshot is from April this year. I'm guessing this is what is being alluded to, but from Flickr it does not look like this function was removed 18 months ago ( unless only a certain mod(s) could do it?).

Can the same thing be done on this forum?

I would like some reassurance please mods.

Thank you.

Yes it can.

Mods can edit comments so in theory mods can post using someone else's name. I'm not sure if a mod can actually create a post using someone else's user name though, I never tried that?

I don't believe any Mod on here, past or present would even have thought to look and see if such a thing could be done. That, for me is one of the fundamental differences between the two sites - why on earth would any Mod on pasoti say to themselves "I wonder if I can use my powers as a Mod to make postings on here using other users' screen names?"

I'm certain that, whatever differences the previous Mod team on here might have had, none of us behaved in such an underhand fashion. And I'll take a bet that, until this issue was raised on pasoti, none of the current team even thought to check and see if it could be done on here.

As far as I know there is no way of making a post under someone elses name without actually signing into their account.

The only physical way I know would be to actually change the password of the user which would then ring alarm bells when that user could then not sign on under their normal password.

We can edit someones post as GOB says, but this shows up on the post as an edit (I think).

The question is what else does this sad sad man hold against everyone? If it is an ex-mod then they are breaking the law if they hold screenshots of personal information connected to the forum they are no longer a mod on.

Anyone know how to view someones photobucket account?

Any edits also show up in the secure mod log.

The embarrassment factor for the Pasoti Stasi, is heightened by the fact that any of them, including the Ex-Mod who's broken rank, could and should have either stamped on this, or spilled the beans when it happened - 18 months ago.

The fact it has happened now, after so long, and after a high profile removal from their Mod team, just proves all the more what a bunch of shysters they all are.

That's right Frank as they would on pasoti which makes it strange that it wasn't spotted? - Do the mods on pasoti have varying control?

I found the method used to read pm's but only because I believed it was happening and had happened to me on pasoti and on the old Argyle Talk site. A warning was placed on ATD immediately after I found out how it was done and it was at the time when ATD was first created.

According to Greenblooded1 on pasoti, it was done under severe provocation, he is even congratulating the mods for their actions!

I would still ask the questions, how do the pasoti mods know that this still isn't happening if they no longer remember how it was done?

Having just done a bit of searching on forumotion you also have to physically add a piece of code to your forum for it to be enabled.

Only someone with founder status can do it.

Andy_Symons wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Pedlar and Millbridgemike are watching the thread but haven't come forward to deny it was them

Pasoti changing? Nah it's still the corrupt, two faced, double standards site it has been for the last couple of years. The mods can do and say as they like, but if any ordinary Joe oversteps the mark it's a totally different story.

If you post on here as well you don't even have to overstep the mark, they take exception to you and you're an easy target for the "special treatment"

This site is far more open, honest and enjoyable than Pasoti ever was. It's only because I didn't know about it that meant I didn't post here sooner. I understand the annoyance that people must feel at being unjustly banned from pasoti ( I never was; I quit. I've never tried to re-register, but I wouldn't mind betting that if I did, there would be some unspecified hurdle that I wouldn't be able to overcome, that would prevent me from registering) however, once you're banned, ATD is home to far more interesting debates, a far broader range of opinion, and of course there are a number of far more entertaining posters.

I also don't get why banned posters would be so keen to get back on pasoti. What's wrong with expressing your opinons here, and here alone?

In my case it was really sticking two fingers up to the person that banned me, I dabble in pasoti now but this is a better site now due to the relaxed atmosphere.

Czarcasm wrote:

The embarrassment factor for the Pasoti Stasi, is heightened by the fact that any of them, including the Ex-Mod who's broken rank, could and should have either stamped on this, or spilled the beans when it happened - 18 months ago.

The fact it has happened now, after so long, and after a high profile removal from their Mod team, just proves all the more what a bunch of shysters they all are.

Spot on Czar. I actually think the ex Mod is worse than the Mod for making any comments about a deceased poster. the ex mod, knew about it, did nothing apart from taking screenshots and then used the fact that he had screenshots he could use.

Bribery and corruption could only mean one person is responsible, probably the biggest piece of scum to represent Argyle in an official capacity...his name escapes me, however his face is known to all....15th of December yet?

Yea Man wrote:

Having just done a bit of searching on forumotion you also have to physically add a piece of code to your forum for it to be enabled.

Only someone with founder status can do it.

So this was no accidental "stumble across", it was intended?

Yea Man wrote:

Having just done a bit of searching on forumotion you also have to physically add a piece of code to your forum for it to be enabled.

Only someone with founder status can do it.

Does that equate to the keyholders on here?

SirCumfrance wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

Having just done a bit of searching on forumotion you also have to physically add a piece of code to your forum for it to be enabled.

Only someone with founder status can do it.

Does that equate to the keyholders on here?

Yes, hence why there are two Key-holders.

Excellent.

Thank you all, for the responses.

Glad to say I'm reassured that this site is being run honestly, openly and above board with plenty of checks and balances in place.......something Pasoti can only dream of.

Funny how everything bad over there appears to end up on Newells grubby sausage fingers?

SirCumfrance wrote:

Can the same thing be done on this forum?

I would like some reassurance please mods.

Thank you.

Likewise. If that day should ever come, you can stick this forum up yer fat arses, the same as I told that lot over the road.

While there can never be a guarantee, i'm not sure it is possible to make a forum to run fairer than ATD but if there is I'm sure that the users of ATD will adopt it.