The great Pasoti clean-up begins.

Mock Cuncher wrote:

Andy_Symons wrote:

Chemical Ali wrote:

Bubba has stated that the matter is being dealt with and occurred 18 months ago when the mod was a poster.

Bubba also reprimands Leigh for being used as pawn AGAIN?

If I read the thread correctly, Leigh was given this information by an 'Ex-Mod'. Any guesses? Which ex-Mod might want to create a bit of a stir to cause trouble for the Mod team that removed him from his position? I can't think of one, can you?

Peggy?

I know you're joking, but in case anybody else doesn't realise that:

a) I stood down as a mod over there several years ago (February 2009 to be precise)
b) despite his recent efforts to become my new best friend, I wouldn't tell Leigh Rapson anything, even if I did know it
c) there is, however, one former(?) mod who takes great pleasure in telling people that I - on my own, which was against the site rules - banned them from that site for racism: apparently I see it everywhere; that individual has a reputation for stirring things up if he thinks he stands to gain from it
d) that's all

It's all going off over there isn't it.

I read with incredulity a post were the mods suggested that forces were trying to bring Pasoti down and dismissed as the delusions of someone flaming a war with and aiming it at ATD.

Now it seems that something or somebody or somebodies is involved

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you are once again allowing yourself to be used as a pawn in bigger game being played by others when it has nothing to do with you.

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there far more serious issues to sort which we are trying to

I don't think pasoti requires any help to bring it down, those that own/mod it seem to be doing a fine job of it themselves.

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I'm not condoning anything but as you are aware this is another great mess we are trying to sort out and quickly

Is the Fanfest* again the place were idle chitter chatter, whispered sweet nothings and exchanging of passwords take place?

*nothing against the Fanfest per se but there seems to be a theme running them and not just the bad jokes

Confession time...

http://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=72065&start=30

If, what he is saying is the truth then I wonder who he is talking about when he says about screenshots!

Not a clever thing to do on his part.

Interesting to know that Pasoti mods can post as anyone they want, past or present! Bet that functions never been used

So anyone who no longer posts on Pasoti could be making posts without even knowing? Good way to give someone a bad name the mods don't like.

The choosing a dead persons account and obviously posting something inappropriate is pretty grim though, and it shows that all is not rosy with them if someone has waited 18 months to bring it to everyone's attention.

So all those people who laugh at us on this site, saying we make up allsorts of bullshit, do you see where we're coming from yet? Or do you still think Pasoti is great and the mods are all upstanding pillars of the online community?

Rats being fed to the snakes......................you just know what name is going to be behind this stench.

I'm intrigued to know how that scam works without gaining access to an account though, it tells you more about the mind of the person that felt a need to find out!

How do the mods know that mods posing as users only posted in the mod room? - How do they know that ex mods are not still exploiting this loophole?

The thing is as a mod you try things behind the scenes away from site members to see if anything can be done to make the forum better, to make the admin team's work a little easier or just to play around with things to see what happens. It looks like this was one of those occasions and things got a bit out of hand.
At least he has owned up to it and is showing, what I think is genuine remorse.

I also think he should say who else was posting as another member or mod.

On Newell's flickr there was a screenshot of a post made by Wozzer as deepthroat where the author of the post could be changed.

Yet again the dirt points back in one direction.

On Newell's Flickr there was a screenshot of one of my posts he had changed. The comments were changed to something derogatory about Tring and Rickler.

Interestingly Newell has often mentioned that there was one current mod in particular he doesn't get on with, but last week he told me he has now fallen out with three of them. And now this happens.

Frank Bullitt wrote:

On Newell's Flickr there was a screenshot of one of my posts he had changed. The comments were changed to something derogatory about Tring and Rickler.

Interestingly Newell has often mentioned that there was one current mod in particular he doesn't get on with, but last week he told me he has now fallen out with three of them. And now this happens.

An interesting comment above, I posted a comment late last night on this thread as I had been upset to read about this latest saga on Pasoti, I had been touched by John's comments and eventually added my bit , for what it was worth, but my interest now is the reasoning behind it all , the WHY now.

Leigh and I have ' debated ' strongly on both forums about his early anti -Trust posts and my defence of the Trust, I believe fair and good debate on both sides, backed up by a few pm's, all very pleasant, no nastiness but I did get the feeling that Leigh was writing on behalf of an other or others at times. So I am suspicious as to why this is mentioned now and who might be behind it.,purely guesswork on my part but a gut feeling all the same.

I am sure Leigh will come on here to deny this but I hope he is honest enough to explain why now for example, to say the least. As someone else mentioned maybe its a Fan -Fest talk. An odd and very sad thread all the same! No links to my post as I know most of you are aware of this thread now, I felt it struck a raw nerve with me after a recent event with an ex -mod, hence my post!

The phrase that sticks in my mind Phil, is "that it's better to be inside the tent pissing out, then outside the tent pissing in"

Maybe someone with a large bladder is upset that they are no longer in the tent?

However distasteful this episode is, it is yet another in a long list of clangers dropped by someone, in their attempts to discredit others.

Rapson really is a silly sausage for allowing himself to be used in other peoples games.

The net result of all this, will be confirmation, yet again, that 'someone' who harbours a grudge, will use any and all means available, to get even. Even 18 months down the line, they don't forget.

It's obsessional in the extreme.

Good on Mike/ Ottawa for admitting to his mistake which seems a major error in judgement (and has obviously upset a number of Bex's friends). I think his statement is genuine.

What this unsavoury incident does highlight is that an ex-pasoti Mod appears to have been near blackmailing another with a screenshot (I can't think of why anyone would keep screenshots on other people, especially on a Flickr account)-

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Obviously one of the mods was very upset with what i said and kept a screenshot of it. I can honestly say i dont remember what i said.

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I did a stupid thing in the mod room, someone has held that over me since then.

Although on the face of it people have 'left' pasoti it seems they are doing everything they can to still have an influence on the site and their 'enemies'. If I were Mike/ Ottawa I would send an email to the club about the screenshot being used against him, and whether the person doing this is suitable for representing Plymouth Argyle (if this ex-mod is in a position where they represent the club).

As others have suggested on pasoti- why has this been announced now?

Of course the focus should move onto who the ex mod is and why they are motivated to hand Leigh the information.

Did they tell Leigh with the sole purpose of him posting on Pasoti or was it told in confidence?

Do they hold other screenshots of what happened in the mod room?

Are the current mods going to ban the ex mod for lifting information from the mod room?

Is the ability to post as someone else turned off?

Was it a method used in the Deepthroat affair?

So many questions so much time to cover for those involved.

Is leverage being applied to Leigh, he would seem to have little to gain from it.

I believe Bex was a friend of Leigh's so he was understandably upset. Which would also tie in with why the details were given to him, for maximum effect.

Whoever told him what had happened must have known that he would raise the issue on Pasoti, and the fall-out that would happen when he did.

Very clever this ex-mod.

Greenjock wrote:

I believe Bex was a friend of Leigh's so he was understandably upset. Which would also tie in with why the details were given to him, for maximum effect.

Whoever told him what had happened must have known that he would raise the issue on Pasoti, and the fall-out that would happen when he did.

Very clever this ex-mod.

Low cunning, more like

Maybe a crossed ex lover, if I can't have Pasoti then nobody can, sounds of repeated stabbing.

The guy that we're all thinking about is a very ill man if this turns out to be right.

What information can the Unnamed Ex Mod have on the current Mod team that makes them so unwilling to name him?

Everyone on both sites can be in little doubt who's behind the latest attempts to stir trouble (and fwiw even though Ottawa has 'come clean' about his part in it and apologised, I still think he should be removed as a Mod, at the very least) yet it's really the elephant in the room - He Who Cannot Be Named.

And Leigh Rapson - if you're reading this, a bit of hopefully helpful advice - next time someone gives you information like this - ask yourself 'Why'?

Don't post anything without at least taking some advice from people who can be relied upon to be objective. You were used by others to try and discredit the Trust. Don't let yourself become the permanent vehicle for other people's dirty tricks. I know you well enough to know that you're better than that.

I hope Ottawa isn't removed as a Mod. Purely and simply because that is exactly what 'he who shall not be named' would want.

There needs to be a "come clean" amnesty on pasoti if pasoti is to have the slightest chance of regaining any credibility.

As ChemAli has pointed out, it seems that Ottawa is indicating that he was being blackmailed, how many others are there in this situation?

On the one hand this was a bit of private 'fun' in the mod room. That's all. The boundary of doing it in public view wasn't crossed.

But it now makes you wonder what else was done that isn't being made public.

It also makes you wonder who is behind the outing of this situation and why?

It also makes you distrust any forum where mods wield 'power' over people's private information.