Ian Newell appreciation thread

I refer you honorable gentlemen to my earlier comment

knecht wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

knecht wrote:

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OK, my apologies. I ought to go and lie down with some nice music. Too much going on.

No need for apologies. What happened to the thread starter ? Has it been pulled and if so, by whom ?

I hadn't started a thread. It was a question to Admin. They referred me back to the earlier reply and that took me to the explanation on the locked thread.

But I also agree with Captain Sensible. It will be hard but I will try to post less about this current debacle - shitty as it is.

PS I also agree with GOB - they're not contradictory.

Thank you. We can both take to our darkened rooms now. I'm even taking up bowls this week to get me away from this bloody laptop.

Tringreen wrote:

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Thank you. We can both take to our darkened rooms now. I'm even taking up bowls this week to get me away from this bloody laptop.

Oh! You play bowls (is that the right description?) in Cyprus? I very vaguely know a top woman bowler there - my ex-wife's sister-in-law. She's Chinese and was a top class player when they lived in Hong-Kong!

knecht wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

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Thank you. We can both take to our darkened rooms now. I'm even taking up bowls this week to get me away from this bloody laptop.

Oh! You play bowls (is that the right description?) in Cyprus? I very vaguely know a top woman bowler there - my ex-wife's sister-in-law. She's Chinese and was a top class player when they lived in Hong-Kong!

Just starting this week.Unfortunately, it's just short mat stuff and not grass.I'll watch out for the Chinese lady, should I ever achieve top flight exposure

Sensiblegreeny wrote:

This thread for example was never intended to have people post good points about Newell.

You are Eddie Shoestring, Jim Rockford, Petrocelli, and Miss Marple rolled in to one, and I claim my £5.

Cheque in the post, I'll get your address from Mr N.

My point was a serious one however which was why start another kick N in the testicles thread when there are already so many to post it on if you want to. Unless the real competition is to see how many you can start in different guises and claim £5.

Sensiblegreeny wrote:

I don't know a lot of the history either but I have to say it comes across as a never ending campaign on ATD. There is hardly ever a thread that does not include something about "The Farm" aka PASOTI, Newell or Webb and often a combination of more than one or all three. When trying to stick to a thread topic this is quite off putting and somewhat tiresome for those not involved in the war that seems to rage. The campaign is not onesided however and there are just as many references to this site on PASOTI which must piss off many on there who don't want to continually hear about the politics and fighting.

It isn't going to stop though is it as there are many who would not let the matter go even if they could. This thread for example was never intended to have people post good points about Newell. It was an opportunity for people to have another go at posting their grievances. This response is neither a for or against Newell before anyone wants to judge one way or the other it is simply my observations as an outsider to the history.

Sorry sensible I usually stick up for you but you're totally wrong here. I started this thread and was genuinely interested in seeing how people were going to defend Newells actions, as the pasoti thread had been locked. I wanted to know how the people who defend him think now. Do they think it's ok to do the things pointed out with the Newell files website.

You often say that people say things on here with no evidence and it's just conjecture, and then you read my mind and are able to tell why I started the thread! Sorry you're wrong this time and hypocritical.

The situation at Argyle was and is to dire for fans to squabble among themselves. Whatever anybody has or has not done on an internet site is comparitively unimportant. Pity we cant all devote our efforts to supporting Argyle

He gives great password

Not sure why it is hypocritical greenjock. There are few on this site who would lift a finger to put him out if he was on fire let alone post any sort of defence of the man or his actions which you must have already known when pressing the keys. The people on PASOTI who would defend him even if he was caught with a smoking gun in his hand are exactly that, on PASOTI and don't post here as far as I know.

Maybe it wasn't intended to be another kick Newell thread but it was almost bound to turn out that way wasn't it given the hatred of the man. The bloke is clearly a complete and utter knob unless you have blinkers which is plain for most to see. It is obvious he plays a game with this site and thinks he is some sort of warlord. I get that. But to read post after post on so many threads telling me so is a bit wearing when not party to the start of the war or involved in it. If he has broken the law which many seem to think he has then get him into Court and convicted is the answer not just talk about it.

There are a few of his poodles on here, and since the story broke yesterday, over thirty new members along with dozens of guests viewing this site that don't usually. Im genuinely interested in knowing what they think of him now that's all. I haven't posted anything derogatory about him for once.

Sensiblegreeny wrote:

Cheque in the post, I'll get your address from Mr N.

My point was a serious one however which was why start another kick N in the testicles thread when there are already so many to post it on if you want to. Unless the real competition is to see how many you can start in different guises and claim £5.

I told you it was a bloody fiver

He looks good in Pink.

Sensiblegreeny wrote:

Not sure why it is hypocritical greenjock. There are few on this site who would lift a finger to put him out if he was on fire let alone post any sort of defence of the man or his actions which you must have already known when pressing the keys. The people on PASOTI who would defend him even if he was caught with a smoking gun in his hand are exactly that, on PASOTI and don't post here as far as I know.

Maybe it wasn't intended to be another kick Newell thread but it was almost bound to turn out that way wasn't it given the hatred of the man. The bloke is clearly a complete and utter knob unless you have blinkers which is plain for most to see. It is obvious he plays a game with this site and thinks he is some sort of warlord. I get that. But to read post after post on so many threads telling me so is a bit wearing when not party to the start of the war or involved in it. If he has broken the law which many seem to think he has then get him into Court and convicted is the answer not just talk about it.

I will go on record to say that I certainly don't wish Ian Newell any harm physically or mentally. There are now clearly far too many people, Argyle people and supporters of other clubs, with big issues over his internet persona and activities, for it to be a coincidence and try as he and his supporters will, put it all down to the likes of myself and Rickler. That's typical bully boy, rabble rousing hype, to deflect from the real source of all the angst.
'Without Stringy, Fruit Loop and GOB, ATD would be a nice little forum'.

@ Womble and Sensible.
The trouble is that pasoti and Newell are extremely difficult to separate these days, as some on here have been saying for a long time. Everything that the freaks and weirdo's have been saying was happening has been proved to be happening. The fact that IJN had access to mod privileges after he resigned as being a mod just proves that he is still controlling the site and it's poodles. There probably would be no ATD without Newell and if he can be turned away from the farm gate then all this crap will die down. What is ironic is that pasoti was needed to keep a watch on the club and it's custodians and now we are needed to keep an eye on the watchman. You can say what you like about Stapes Todd and Gardener but I have never seen any evidence that they hacked any e-mails and yet we are being asked to lay off Newell for his last escapades, sorry but no, it ain't happening. And I am one of the ones affected, I have had no apology nor do I expect one.

Iggy wrote:

@ Womble and Sensible.
The trouble is that pasoti and Newell are extremely difficult to separate these days, as some on here have been saying for a long time. Everything that the freaks and weirdo's have been saying was happening has been proved to be happening. The fact that IJN had access to mod privileges after he resigned as being a mod just proves that he is still controlling the site and it's poodles. There probably would be no ATD without Newell and if he can be turned away from the farm gate then all this crap will die down. What is ironic is that pasoti was needed to keep a watch on the club and it's custodians and now we are needed to keep an eye on the watchman. You can say what you like about Stapes Todd and Gardener but I have never seen any evidence that they hacked any e-mails and yet we are being asked to lay off Newell for his last escapades, sorry but no, it ain't happening. And I am one of the ones affected, I have had no apology nor do I expect one.

Nool, Pasoti and PAFC seem, at times to merge into one. Several posters on this site can confirm that if you post anything that seems to be anti-Pasoti/Nool/PAFC, or just questions the way they do things, you get a hoard of tame/blinkered "fans" hurling abuse at you and if you persist in asking awkward questions you get banned (quite often for something you didn't do!)

The much copied e-mail from Nool to Cowdrey confirms that he (Nool) thinks he should have a veto over who talks with the owner of the club.

I have already said that I think Newell is a knob and that I understand why people dislike him etc. I promise you I get all that I really do. That though is not the point I'm trying to make.

My objection, if that is what it is, is that every thread about whatever subject always seems to contain a reference to either him, webb or PASOTI in some form or other. It's like the obsession is paramount rather than the topic. Surely there is no need to turn everything into an us versus them sort of thing. Out of the top 10 subjects on this site when you click on is about one of the three? Most of them and the others probably mention one of the three even if it isn't in the title.

If people have evidence of wrong doing and even law breaking then do something proper about it rather than just writing about it constantly. The only thing that will happen if nothing is done is that it will continue rather than be stopped. If somebody got prosecuted and found against I guarantee others involved would keep their heads down and not be so brave in future. Here is a suggestion. Why not have one complete section to vent spleen against the three and leave the other sites on here to get on with other business like arguing amonst ourselves about the club and it's doings or not doings. References to the three being banned. At least that way those not involved in the history with an axe to grind won't have to avoid reading yet another tirade about them however justified that tirade might be.

I have evidence and I have done something 'proper' about it.

I called (from the states) the police in plymouth. I have followed up with two emails. I have heard nothing back!!
I won't be giving up though.

Just wanted you to know sensi that I am putting my money where my mouth is!

Rickler wrote:

I have evidence and I have done something 'proper' about it.

I called (from the states) the police in plymouth. I have followed up with two emails. I have heard nothing back!!
I won't be giving up though.

Just wanted you to know sensi that I am putting my money where my mouth is!

Ricks, check your ATD Internet Inbox you freak!

Sensiblegreeny wrote:

I have already said that I think Newell is a knob and that I understand why people dislike him etc. I promise you I get all that I really do. That though is not the point I'm trying to make.

My objection, if that is what it is, is that every thread about whatever subject always seems to contain a reference to either him, webb or PASOTI in some form or other. It's like the obsession is paramount rather than the topic. Surely there is no need to turn everything into an us versus them sort of thing. Out of the top 10 subjects on this site when you click on is about one of the three? Most of them and the others probably mention one of the three even if it isn't in the title.

If people have evidence of wrong doing and even law breaking then do something proper about it rather than just writing about it constantly. The only thing that will happen if nothing is done is that it will continue rather than be stopped. If somebody got prosecuted and found against I guarantee others involved would keep their heads down and not be so brave in future. Here is a suggestion. Why not have one complete section to vent spleen against the three and leave the other sites on here to get on with other business like arguing amonst ourselves about the club and it's doings or not doings. References to the three being banned. At least that way those not involved in the history with an axe to grind won't have to avoid reading yet another tirade about them however justified that tirade might be.

SG, what is getting boring and monotonous, is your constant whining about what others post - in virtually every post you make.

Irony eh?

Maybe try and learn to do what many others do, and 'skip' a post (or poster) whose thoughts or opinions you generally don't really want to read?

Try it. It may reduce your blood pressure.

GOB wrote:

Rickler wrote:

I have evidence and I have done something 'proper' about it.

I called (from the states) the police in plymouth. I have followed up with two emails. I have heard nothing back!!
I won't be giving up though.

Just wanted you to know sensi that I am putting my money where my mouth is!

Ricks, you will be getting a pm.

Ooooo Gob you sounded just like Mr Newell then

Yea Man wrote:

GOB wrote:

Rickler wrote:

I have evidence and I have done something 'proper' about it.

I called (from the states) the police in plymouth. I have followed up with two emails. I have heard nothing back!!
I won't be giving up though.

Just wanted you to know sensi that I am putting my money where my mouth is!

Ricks, you will be getting a pm.

Ooooo Gob you sounded just like Mr Newell then

I did didn't I!

I'll edit it!

Czarcasm wrote:

Sensiblegreeny wrote:

I have already said that I think Newell is a knob and that I understand why people dislike him etc. I promise you I get all that I really do. That though is not the point I'm trying to make.

My objection, if that is what it is, is that every thread about whatever subject always seems to contain a reference to either him, webb or PASOTI in some form or other. It's like the obsession is paramount rather than the topic. Surely there is no need to turn everything into an us versus them sort of thing. Out of the top 10 subjects on this site when you click on is about one of the three? Most of them and the others probably mention one of the three even if it isn't in the title.

If people have evidence of wrong doing and even law breaking then do something proper about it rather than just writing about it constantly. The only thing that will happen if nothing is done is that it will continue rather than be stopped. If somebody got prosecuted and found against I guarantee others involved would keep their heads down and not be so brave in future. Here is a suggestion. Why not have one complete section to vent spleen against the three and leave the other sites on here to get on with other business like arguing amonst ourselves about the club and it's doings or not doings. References to the three being banned. At least that way those not involved in the history with an axe to grind won't have to avoid reading yet another tirade about them however justified that tirade might be.

SG, what is getting boring and monotonous, is your constant whining about what others post - in virtually every post you make.

Irony eh?

Maybe try and learn to do what many others do, and 'skip' a post (or poster) whose thoughts or opinions you generally don't really want to read?

Try it. It may reduce your blood pressure.

I agree Czar.. The handle does not match his postings regarding Nool & Co, stop pontificating and move on yourself. If I dont like the style of a particular poster I dont bother reading it I suggest you do the same.

I do not constantly whine about what others post Czarcasm. I have made reference to this something like three times with maybe a couple of follow ups on responses. That is hardly constant. It's about time somebody did the right thing and made it official. Perhaps I should try to avoid the battle threads albeit it is hard sometimes when the titles don't often contain a reference to warn before you enter. I have no problem with individual posters at all or their style I asure you. For the third time the user name is that and not a reference to me as a person. I have no pretentions to intelligence.

Good on you Rickler and I hope you have great success in your quest for justice.

Sensiblegreeny wrote:

I do not constantly whine about what others post Czarcasm. I have made reference to this something like three times with maybe a couple of follow ups on responses. That is hardly constant. It's about time somebody did the right thing and made it official. Perhaps I should try to avoid the battle threads albeit it is hard sometimes when the titles don't often contain a reference to warn before you enter. I have no problem with individual posters at all or their style I asure you. For the third time the user name is that and not a reference to me as a person. I have no pretentions to intelligence.

Good on you Rickler and I hope you have great success in your quest for justice.

FWIW, I think our SG makes a valid point and does it in a pretty fair and polite way.