Whittaker back to Swansea ?

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

I can’t see Swansea recalling Whittaker to sell to Ipswich if there’s a chance of them losing a couple of their strikers in the transfer window.

Trouble is if he goes back to Swans he will have to fight for a place among a host of established no tens and the manager didn't rate him before hence his loan with us. Looks like it is more a case of the owners looking to raise funds in which case the Ipswich story may well have legs as like us they have plenty of cash but unlike us they are keen to spend it on players not property.
Swans manager saying that due to early recall clause we will know one way or the other in 48hrs or so. He talks in depth on YouTube in the Swans v Burnley interview around 11 minutes.

If he is recalled and then sold to Ipswich or even loaned with a view a permanent deal to Ipswich then Ipswich would have been successful in strengthening their squad and massively weakening ours in one go.  They couldn't even consider doing this if MW was on loan at Sheff Wed, Derby, Bolton, Barnsley, Posh, Pompey  etc.  Argo are very easy pickings all our promotion rivals which hallett and the yanks need to sort out now!!  Completely unacceptable.

Freathy wrote:

If he is recalled and then sold to Ipswich or even loaned with a view a permanent deal to Ipswich then Ipswich would have been successful in strengthening their squad and massively weakening ours in one go.  They couldn't even consider doing this if MW was on loan at Sheff Wed, Derby, Bolton, Barnsley, Posh, Pompey  etc.  Argo are very easy pickings all our promotion rivals which hallett and the yanks need to sort out now!!  Completely unacceptable.

its not going to massively weaken ours it will strengthen theirs and if Swansea are looking to sell him we should be bidding for him at the very least if not looking to replace him before the window shuts.

Angry wrote:

Freathy wrote:

If he is recalled and then sold to Ipswich or even loaned with a view a permanent deal to Ipswich then Ipswich would have been successful in strengthening their squad and massively weakening ours in one go.  They couldn't even consider doing this if MW was on loan at Sheff Wed, Derby, Bolton, Barnsley, Posh, Pompey  etc.  Argo are very easy pickings all our promotion rivals which hallett and the yanks need to sort out now!!  Completely unacceptable.

its not going to massively weaken ours it will strengthen theirs and if Swansea are looking to sell him we should be bidding for him at the very least if not looking to replace him before the window shuts.

Yep, Hallett and the yanks should be giving Schuey the go a head to make a realistic bid.   But on pitch spending is way down the priority list for them.

Angry wrote:

Freathy wrote:

If he is recalled and then sold to Ipswich or even loaned with a view a permanent deal to Ipswich then Ipswich would have been successful in strengthening their squad and massively weakening ours in one go.  They couldn't even consider doing this if MW was on loan at Sheff Wed, Derby, Bolton, Barnsley, Posh, Pompey  etc.  Argo are very easy pickings all our promotion rivals which hallett and the yanks need to sort out now!!  Completely unacceptable.

its not going to massively weaken ours it will strengthen theirs and if Swansea are looking to sell him we should be bidding for him at the very least if not looking to replace him before the window shuts.

I cannot see how we wouldn't be weakened by losing MW? We have had only just got some of our attacking mojo back by playing Mayor with MW, who on earth do we have who is on a par with the player valued at £1 to £2m who would start in any league 1 team?

Earwegoagain wrote:

Angry wrote:

Freathy wrote:

If he is recalled and then sold to Ipswich or even loaned with a view a permanent deal to Ipswich then Ipswich would have been successful in strengthening their squad and massively weakening ours in one go.  They couldn't even consider doing this if MW was on loan at Sheff Wed, Derby, Bolton, Barnsley, Posh, Pompey  etc.  Argo are very easy pickings all our promotion rivals which hallett and the yanks need to sort out now!!  Completely unacceptable.

its not going to massively weaken ours it will strengthen theirs and if Swansea are looking to sell him we should be bidding for him at the very least if not looking to replace him before the window shuts.

I cannot see how we wouldn't be weakened by losing MW? We have had only just got some of our attacking mojo back by playing Mayor with MW, who on earth do we have who is on a par with the player valued at £1 to £2m who would start in any league 1 team?

it will be a loss but not a massive one that derails us. We have Azaz coming back soon and im sure the club will bring in another even if it is another loan signing to replace Whittaker should he go before the deadline day.

I hope he stays but hes not our player so its not something the club has anysay in it if they agree to having recall clauses in loan contracts this season and not have them in the players we loaned out in return.

Absolute joke Hallett and the board if they allow this to happen without even attempting to make a bid for him …Or I will say it AGAIN get a Couple of decent players in with experience & quality that could go straight into the mix and help with the last promotion push to get us over the line and not any more kids for the future if that’s the case them kind of signings can wait for the summer if that’s the way they wanna it go with them type of signings ..here’s a idea sigh how about us nicking players off our rivals instead

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Earwegoagain wrote:

Angry wrote:

Freathy wrote:

If he is recalled and then sold to Ipswich or even loaned with a view a permanent deal to Ipswich then Ipswich would have been successful in strengthening their squad and massively weakening ours in one go.  They couldn't even consider doing this if MW was on loan at Sheff Wed, Derby, Bolton, Barnsley, Posh, Pompey  etc.  Argo are very easy pickings all our promotion rivals which hallett and the yanks need to sort out now!!  Completely unacceptable.

its not going to massively weaken ours it will strengthen theirs and if Swansea are looking to sell him we should be bidding for him at the very least if not looking to replace him before the window shuts.

I cannot see how we wouldn't be weakened by losing MW? We have had only just got some of our attacking mojo back by playing Mayor with MW, who on earth do we have who is on a par with the player valued at £1 to £2m who would start in any league 1 team?

it will be a loss but not a massive one that derails us. We have Azaz coming back soon and im sure the club will bring in another even if it is another loan signing to replace Whittaker should he go before the deadline day.

I hope he stays but hes not our player so its not something the club has anysay in it if they agree to having recall clauses in loan contracts this season and not have them in the players we loaned out in return.[/quote

Lol. If players like MW wee that easy to find we would all have them. Sunday he assisted with two goals and scored one so he was involved in all three goals. Even if we had a million pounds to replace him with there is no gaurantee we would sign someone of the same quality and there is no gaurantee that Azaz will be fit at the end of January or even have a setback. MW would be a major loss period.

mods can you remove the question mark from the thread title please as its confirmed he has been recalled.

judging by the statement released the club wont be bidding for him anytime soon either more like they are looking elsewhere.

Whittaker Recalled

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Argyle forward Morgan Whittaker has been recalled by parent club Swansea City.

Whittaker, 21, had been enjoying a career best season at Home Park, and remained committed to seeing out his loan with the Sky Bet League One leaders to the end of the campaign as initially agreed. However, Argyle officials received formal confirmation late Tuesday afternoon that the Swans would recall him to play a part in their Championship campaign.

Keen to ensure every avenue was explored in retaining an integral member of the Greens’ high-flying squad, Argyle made several proposals to Swansea City, including amending the financial terms of the loan deal, as well as enquiring about a permanent transfer.

Argyle Director of Football, Neil Dewsnip, said: “We are obviously disappointed that Morgan’s loan has been cut short. He was enjoying his football tremendously, and we felt we were providing the best possible environment for him to develop and contribute.

“We did everything we could to retain Morgan for the duration of the loan as initially agreed, but it was not to be. Morgan loved his football here, which is a testament to Steven Schumacher and the club as a whole for our approach to player care, and we hope he can continue to build on the promise he has shown here.

“The recruitment department at the club plans for any eventuality, and we are already well underway with our January operations, as is clear by the additions of Ben Waine and Saxon Earley.

“Argyle is an exciting club to play for right now, and a brilliant place for talented young players to come and improve, as Morgan has evidenced. We are confident that, thanks to the backing of the Board, our additions in January will ensure that we are not knocked off course by the disappointing loss of Morgan.”

Morgan departs Home Park with the best wishes of everyone at Argyle, and we thank him for his tremendous contribution over the first half of the season.

Very disappointing but we have to move on.

All too predictable and hopefully a lesson learned. I await with baited breath the freebie CCC level replacement which by all accounts will be a piece of piss to find.

We need to aim for mediocre players in future, then ensure they’re not a roaring success, just in case their parent club recalls them.

While all the teams around us strengthen.  Still, it wouldn't be January without weakening our squad.  Promotion?  You're having a laugh.

just saw his Instagram post looks like he didnt want to go back either....

Freathy wrote:

While all the teams around us strengthen.  Still, it wouldn't be January without weakening our squad.  Promotion?  You're having a laugh.

Why not take a trip to Sid James Park and give them your “support”

Big blow,9 goals and a bunch of assists to find from somewhere. From the blurb on the baggo it would seem that he's going back to be a part of their first team squad rather than being sold-hope he doesn't go back there and just play a bit part for the rest of the season which would be a total waste of everyone's fecking time. Good luck to him, good player and enjoyed watching him play.

Greenskin wrote:

Big blow,9 goals and a bunch of assists to find from somewhere. From the blurb on the baggo it would seem that he's going back to be a part of their first team squad rather than being sold-hope he doesn't go back there and just play a bit part for the rest of the season which would be a total waste of everyone's fecking time. Good luck to him, good player and enjoyed watching him play.

the swansea manager even said yesterday if he's recalled he will be competiting with many others in strong position so it will be telling if he does get into the first team plans or is indeed sent out again or sold.

Greenskin wrote:

Big blow,9 goals and a bunch of assists to find from somewhere. From the blurb on the baggo it would seem that he's going back to be a part of their first team squad rather than being sold-hope he doesn't go back there and just play a bit part for the rest of the season which would be a total waste of everyone's fecking time. Good luck to him, good player and enjoyed watching him play.

nah his gone back so they can flog him read in between the lines they….they done all best to sercue the the loan blah blah that is nailed on they didn’t even put in bid I’d have anythink you like on that Anyway more important things than buying players for promotion…running goals as separate entity on that nice bit of new land they got

Freathy wrote:

While all the teams around us strengthen.  Still, it wouldn't be January without weakening our squad.  Promotion?  You're having a laugh.

I’m new to this site but not to Argyle. You seem to rejoice in negativity. What are you talking about ‘weakening our squad’? Other than losing Whittaker which we can’t do anything about, what are you referring to?

RegGreen wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

Big blow,9 goals and a bunch of assists to find from somewhere. From the blurb on the baggo it would seem that he's going back to be a part of their first team squad rather than being sold-hope he doesn't go back there and just play a bit part for the rest of the season which would be a total waste of everyone's fecking time. Good luck to him, good player and enjoyed watching him play.

nah his gone back so they can flog him read in between the lines they….they done all best to sercue the the loan blah blah that is nailed on they didn’t even put in bid I’d have anythink you like on that Anyway more important things than buying players for promotion…running goals as separate entity on that nice bit of new land they got

I would be interested to see what the fee was when they sell him on and why we werent even close to meeting Swansea's asking price.

oh well let us hope Jimmy Dickinson and his team have one or two guys eyed up to bring in, in his stead so his departure isnt too much of a derailer. Sad as it is too say i dont see him being the only one to leave us this month lets not forget a large number of the squad are out of contract in the summer.

As for the 4 other loanees i dont see them being recalled imho
Lonwijk wont make the bench at Wolves atm despite his potential so no point bringing him back for Wolves when hes benefiting from first team football here, Cosgrove cant play for another team this season so hes safe unless Birmingham want to play him which i dont see happening,
Azaz same reasons as Lonwijk and hes injured till after the window closes so hes safe and Mumba we have been told already hes staying put.

If Swansea are selling him no doubt we'll see him line up against us on 14 Jan

Shame he has been recalled, we move on.

Hope he gets his chance at Swansea and shines for them. If Swansea do end up selling him, I would hope he goes to a lower Premier League club or another Championship club and not Ipswich or another high ranking League One club.

Zackly, who gives a toss? We will never be a sustainable CCC club until we sort the capacity out so why waste money on promotion now? Think I'll just move to Ipswich, Sheffield or Barnsley.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Zackly, who gives a toss? We will never be a sustainable CCC club until we sort the capacity out so why waste money on promotion now? Think I'll just move to Ipswich, Sheffield or Barnsley.

£1.5 million is a  big price to pay for Whittaker and that is too much for the club at this moment in time I believe.

He has gone and that is that.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Zackly, who gives a toss? We will never be a sustainable CCC club until we sort the capacity out so why waste money on promotion now? Think I'll just move to Ipswich, Sheffield or Barnsley.

Thought you already had