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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptyWed Mar 23, 2022 9:39 am

Kremlin does not rule out using nuclear weapons if existence threatened.


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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptyWed Mar 23, 2022 9:52 am

VillageGreen wrote:
Kremlin does not rule out using nuclear weapons if existence threatened.


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Kind of what they are for so no change there then.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2022 12:44 pm

Earwegoagain wrote:
VillageGreen wrote:
Kremlin does not rule out using nuclear weapons if existence threatened.


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Kind of what they are for so no change there then.




With NATO sending thousands of troops and military gear to bolster its defences Russia might just see that as a threat or provocation and react accordingly.


Russia has now said that any countries which might allow Ukraine to use its airfields to launch attacks – including nearby NATO countries – would be counted as belligerents. Along with Ukrainian fighter jets, I wonder if that also means the military hardware delivered to NATO countries and then picked up by Ukrainian forces at NATO airfields ? If so, then it could get nasty in the near future.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2022 12:57 pm

VillageGreen wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
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Kremlin does not rule out using nuclear weapons if existence threatened.


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Kind of what they are for so no change there then.




With NATO sending thousands of troops and military gear to bolster its defences Russia might just see that as a threat or provocation and react accordingly.


Russia has now said that any countries which might allow Ukraine to use its airfields to launch attacks – including nearby NATO countries – would be counted as belligerents. Along with Ukrainian fighter jets, I wonder if that also means the military hardware delivered to NATO countries and then picked up by Ukrainian forces at NATO countries airfields ?

We won't allow Nato airfields to launch attacks from as that would be a clear line crossed. As for bolstering our defences against the rabid Vlad it would be madness not to. You must bear in mind that the bloke is a total gobshite and he is not going to start WW3 because he would lose it and he knows that.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptyThu Mar 24, 2022 1:44 pm

And he certainly won’t use nukes.

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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptyFri Mar 25, 2022 8:17 am

I see that Prime Minister Johnson and the UK are public enemy number 1 for the Russians.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptyFri Mar 25, 2022 9:27 am

mouldyoldgoat wrote:
And he certainly won’t use nukes.

St Petersburg is very, very adjacent to the Barents Sea which is chock-a-block with American and British hunter-killer and missile carrying submarines. Such a war would certainly be an inconvenience for Putin as he wouldn't be able he spend the billions he's plundered off the Russian people.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptyFri Mar 25, 2022 1:12 pm

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I see that Prime Minister Johnson and the UK are public enemy number 1 for the Russians.

Good. That’s exactly how they should be viewing us.

Stand up to a bully and it makes them think again. Cower away, and you’ll forever be getting a bloody nose and your dinner money pinched.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptyFri Mar 25, 2022 3:40 pm

The west has nothing to fear from the Russian paper tiger, drive them out of Ukraine and the Crimea.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptyFri Mar 25, 2022 3:55 pm

Czarcasm wrote:
VillageGreen wrote:
I see that Prime Minister Johnson and the UK are public enemy number 1 for the Russians.

Good. That’s exactly how they should be viewing us.

Stand up to a bully and it makes them think again. Cower away, and you’ll forever be getting a bloody nose and your dinner money pinched.




Vladolf Putrid and his Kremlin mafia are livid by all accounts. Most annoyed at the way the UK has conducted itself during the illegal war the Russians started in Ukraine. Prime Minister Johnson stated he is anti-Putin, not anti-Russian.

Russia complaining again about the west giving arms to Ukraine and saying it is a big mistake, it will prolong the conflict they go on to add. USA making contingency plans in the event Russia attacks Ukrainian supply convoys that are in transit within NATO countries.


It is being reported that a Russian brigade commander has been deliberately killed by one of his own troops in Ukraine. Colonel Medvechek of the 37th Motor Rifle Brigade was killed when he was driven over by a tank. The soldier driving the tank was angered by the losses suffered by the unit.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptyFri Mar 25, 2022 7:35 pm

Putin saying he has achieved primary objectives so will now concentrate on Donbas.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptyFri Mar 25, 2022 10:42 pm

Lol, he has killed enough Russian soldiers now, let's pretend to win.

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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptySat Mar 26, 2022 7:27 am

Interesting article on the Azov battalion in Ukraine, these guys are the Nazis that Putin is using an excuse to invade Ukraine and to be fair he isn't far wrong, they came to existence following the uprising in 2014 and are based in Mariupol. Ukraine need to get rid of scum like this but the far right does seem to have quite a following in a lot of Eastern Europe,
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptySat Mar 26, 2022 8:04 am

Hugh Midde wrote:
mouldyoldgoat wrote:
And he certainly won’t use nukes.

St Petersburg is very, very adjacent to the Barents Sea which is chock-a-block with American and British hunter-killer and missile carrying submarines.  Such a war would certainly be an inconvenience for Putin as he wouldn't be able he spend the billions he's plundered off the Russian people.

which St Petersburg are you talking about?
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptySat Mar 26, 2022 8:16 am

seadog wrote:
Hugh Midde wrote:
mouldyoldgoat wrote:
And he certainly won’t use nukes.

St Petersburg is very, very adjacent to the Barents Sea which is chock-a-block with American and British hunter-killer and missile carrying submarines.  Such a war would certainly be an inconvenience for Putin as he wouldn't be able he spend the billions he's plundered off the Russian people.

which St Petersburg are you talking about?

The Baltic one I'd imagine although the point remains the same.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptySat Mar 26, 2022 9:10 am

Earwegoagain wrote:
Putin saying he has achieved primary objectives so will now concentrate on Donbas.


His exit strategy and face-saving plans will be interesting. There's no doubt his army of conscripts have had an ass whooping. If he survives the climbdown, will he survive his Kremlin cohorts who, as I suspect are already sharpening their knives, or loading their AK47's, or indeed, readying the noose!
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptySat Mar 26, 2022 9:48 am

seadog wrote:
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And he certainly won’t use nukes.

St Petersburg is very, very adjacent to the Barents Sea which is chock-a-block with American and British hunter-killer and missile carrying submarines.  Such a war would certainly be an inconvenience for Putin as he wouldn't be able he spend the billions he's plundered off the Russian people.

which St Petersburg are you talking about?

My apologies sir, make that the Baltic Sea. It must have been over a year ago that I took in a book by the former captain of a RN hunter-killer who told of his trials and tribulations primarily around and about Murmansk and the White Sea dockyards. The books title escapes me but I'll try and rediscover.

As an aside, the author mentioned that on listening to a passing ship's propellers it was was not only possible guess which class of submarine it was but the actual name of the vessel.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptySat Mar 26, 2022 1:15 pm

Hugh Midde wrote:
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Hugh Midde wrote:
mouldyoldgoat wrote:
And he certainly won’t use nukes.

St Petersburg is very, very adjacent to the Barents Sea which is chock-a-block with American and British hunter-killer and missile carrying submarines.  Such a war would certainly be an inconvenience for Putin as he wouldn't be able he spend the billions he's plundered off the Russian people.

which St Petersburg are you talking about?

My apologies sir, make that the Baltic Sea. It must have been over a year ago that I took in a book by the former captain of a RN hunter-killer who told of his trials and tribulations primarily around and about Murmansk and the White Sea dockyards. The books title escapes me but I'll try and rediscover.

As an aside, the author mentioned that on listening to a passing ship's propellers, it was was not only possible guess which class of submarine it was but the actual name of the vessel.

The book title I was looking for was: Hunter Killers by Iain Ballantyne.

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The submarine captain was Doug Littlejohn RN who, on leaving the service, took a job with the late Tom Clancy the author of, The Search for Red October. More here....

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The White Sea and the coast from Norway to it is very barren and featureless, only been there once during the old Soviet era.
We were never out of sight of a Russian ship from the Norwegian border and back.

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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptySun Mar 27, 2022 9:25 am

Lol Biden is a doddery old twat and no mistake. He told the Polish that Putin cannot remain in power. White House quickly clarified his remark as to meaning he cannot influence power over his neighbours. Obviously lost in translation from American into English. I mean seriously does he have dementia?
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptySun Mar 27, 2022 9:26 am

Russian upping missile attacks on Lviv now. The city has largely been untouched, very worrying for all there.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptySun Mar 27, 2022 9:38 am

Earwegoagain wrote:
Lol Biden is a doddery old twat and no mistake. He told the Polish that Putin cannot remain in power. White House quickly clarified his remark as to meaning he cannot influence power over his neighbours. Obviously lost in translation from American into English. I mean seriously does he have dementia?



I think Biden is correct in his remark. Poo tin can't remain in power for much longer, he is a danger to global security and peace. Plus he has got nuclear weapons at his disposal and could easily use them.


We have got to hope that the people of Russia rise up and take down Poo tin.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptySun Mar 27, 2022 1:43 pm

VillageGreen wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
Lol Biden is a doddery old twat and no mistake. He told the Polish that Putin cannot remain in power. White House quickly clarified his remark as to meaning he cannot influence power over his neighbours. Obviously lost in translation from American into English. I mean seriously does he have dementia?



I think Biden is correct in his remark. Poo tin can't remain in power for much longer, he is a danger to global security and peace. Plus he has got nuclear weapons at his disposal and could easily use them.


We have got to hope that the people of Russia rise up and take down Poo tin.

No he is an idiot, a regime change call from the USA is just the sort of thing that will escalate the war, it is completely unhelpful and in fact damaging.
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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptySun Mar 27, 2022 2:05 pm

I find it astonishing that for a country that once had a nuclear deterrent, Ukraine doesn’t appear to have any capacity to launch counter attacks by way of missile strikes on Russian cities within range of their border. If Putin thought that there was any chance of some of his cities getting obliterated Mariupol-style, he maybe would have thought twice about starting this shit-show to begin with.

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PostSubject: Re: Ukraine   Ukraine - Page 14 EmptySun Mar 27, 2022 4:11 pm

Poo Tin had a list of five European countries that concerned him in September 2014 and these came about after it emerged that Ukraine wanted to join the EU in that very same year.

The five countries privately warned were Poland, Romania and the Baltic states - Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

Apparently, German newspaper Suddeutsche Zeitung, reported that Poo Tin is said to have told former Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko: "If I wanted, in two days I could have Russian troops not only in Kyiv but also in Riga, Vilnius, Tallinn, Warsaw and Bucharest."

The statement - if indeed the terms were made that way - show Poo Tin speaking about invading an EU or NATO country for a first time.

European Commission Vice President Valdis Dombrovskist informed Politico in March 2022, that it could see Poo Tin increase his military aspirations and confront NATO in the Baltic Sea nations of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia should he win in Ukraine.


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