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sufferedsince 68 wrote:: Hallet got the club relegated so its up to him to get a quality manager who will need a decent budget to get the club out of this dogshit league, keeping Brents poundland specials will not encourage any good manager to join argo, you dont need to be Pep, to work that out ffs!

How did he get us relegated when its brents budget that brought that shower in and del decision to sack the chief scout before january meaning nothing getting done n that month. That clusterfuck brent started and couldnt fund cost us dear this season. Adams also got us relegated too.

Hallett reign can only be judge when the shackles of brent are gone for good and the budget the new manager has and who that manager is.

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Angry wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:: Hallet got the club relegated so its up to him to get a quality manager who will need a decent budget to get the club out of this dogshit league, keeping Brents poundland specials will not encourage any good manager to join argo, you dont need to be Pep, to work that out ffs!

How did he get us relegated when its brents budget that brought that shower in and del decision to sack the chief scout before january meaning nothing getting done n that month. That clusterfuck brent started and couldnt fund cost us dear this season. Adams also got us relegated too.

Hallett reign can only be judge when the shackles of brent are gone for good and the budget the new manager has and who that manager is.

Brent is to blame, but Hallet must take his share of the blame he had January to either back Adams or sack him he did neither.

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sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Angry wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:: Hallet got the club relegated so its up to him to get a quality manager who will need a decent budget to get the club out of this dogshit league, keeping Brents poundland specials will not encourage any good manager to join argo, you dont need to be Pep, to work that out ffs!

How did he get us relegated when its brents budget that brought that shower in and del decision to sack the chief scout before january meaning nothing getting done n that month. That clusterfuck brent started and couldnt fund cost us dear this season. Adams also got us relegated too.

Hallett reign can only be judge when the shackles of brent are gone for good and the budget the new manager has and who that manager is.

Brent is to blame, but Hallet must take his share of the blame he had January to either back Adams or sack him he did neither.

he probably did but Adams is such a stubborn feck he probably thought threlkeld and jones on loan and signing anderson over joe mason was enough when any fool with eyes could see we need greater depth in the squad.
Hallet should have acted earlier in booting adams out then he did so yes he does have his share of the blame of course but the large slice of this lies at brents door and its saddens me that most of the fanbase cant see that.

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sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Angry wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:: Hallet got the club relegated so its up to him to get a quality manager who will need a decent budget to get the club out of this dogshit league, keeping Brents poundland specials will not encourage any good manager to join argo, you dont need to be Pep, to work that out ffs!

How did he get us relegated when its brents budget that brought that shower in and del decision to sack the chief scout before january meaning nothing getting done n that month. That clusterfuck brent started and couldnt fund cost us dear this season. Adams also got us relegated too.

Hallett reign can only be judge when the shackles of brent are gone for good and the budget the new manager has and who that manager is.

Brent is to blame, but Hallet must take his share of the blame he had January to either back Adams or sack him he did neither.

he probably did but Adams is such a stubborn feck he probably thought threlkeld and jones on loan and signing anderson over joe mason was enough when any fool with eyes could see we need greater depth in the squad.
Hallet should have acted earlier in booting adams out then he did so yes he does have his share of the blame of course but the large slice of this lies at brents door and its saddens me that most of the fanbase cant see that.

I agree Brent has relegated the club and has been a disaster for Argyle, though he himself has made money! but Hallet is partly to blame there's no doubt about that, now its up to him to put it right.

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Translates as keep it cheap, keep it ticking over, keep it crap.

I still think that Simon Hallet didn't invest in January because brent would have gained financially if we stayed up or reached the playoffs for no payout from his deep pockets. If the rumours are true about brent being bought out by SH, as a L2 club the price for jimbob's 30% is cheaper.

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sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Angry wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Angry wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:: Hallet got the club relegated so its up to him to get a quality manager who will need a decent budget to get the club out of this dogshit league, keeping Brents poundland specials will not encourage any good manager to join argo, you dont need to be Pep, to work that out ffs!

How did he get us relegated when its brents budget that brought that shower in and del decision to sack the chief scout before january meaning nothing getting done n that month. That clusterfuck brent started and couldnt fund cost us dear this season. Adams also got us relegated too.

Hallett reign can only be judge when the shackles of brent are gone for good and the budget the new manager has and who that manager is.

Brent is to blame, but Hallet must take his share of the blame he had January to either back Adams or sack him he did neither.

he probably did but Adams is such a stubborn feck he probably thought threlkeld and jones on loan and signing anderson over joe mason was enough when any fool with eyes could see we need greater depth in the squad.
Hallet should have acted earlier in booting adams out then he did so yes he does have his share of the blame of course but the large slice of this lies at brents door and its saddens me that most of the fanbase cant see that.

I agree Brent has relegated the club and has been a disaster for Argyle, though he himself has made money! but Hallet is partly to blame there's no doubt about that, now its up to him to put it right.

there both to blame let’s have it right halletts been on the board under brent for two years and obviously been backing his decisions at board level and now and to the point of even agreeing to even have Brents daughter on the board as well

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Can anyone actually confirm or deny if Bent is now going to be mr zero percent?

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No punchey can’t confirm or deny other than there’s rumours there COULD be a rumbling in those hills

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Punchdrunk wrote:: Can anyone actually confirm or deny if Bent is now going to be mr zero percent?

The OP doesn't have a great record for his scoops.

Am hopeful that the offers are so derisory that the players offered throw them away pronto the likes of Fox Sawyer and Edwards. Hopefully the incoming manager can pay off some under contract and hopefully all of the defence as well and if not list them
I think deliar has got it right on the farm with offers in early to comply with EFL rules but nothing more

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No it's still wierd Harve because we have until the third week in May to offer the retain list. It does make you wonder if Adams is still pulling strings at the moment.

Earwegoagain wrote:: No it's still wierd Harve because we have until the third week in May to offer the retain list. It does make you wonder if Adams is still pulling strings at the moment.

Yeah saw him mention 3rd week in May albeit thats a only a week away

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Czarcasm wrote:: It'd be fascinating to have confirmed who exactly is making these contract offer decisions. Logically, you'd have assume the Board is asking Nance to give his opinions. But who else is having an input?
Is Natasha lobbying for this player or that?

Our Board is entirely made up of non-football savvy people. Wrathall is undoubtedly a true fan, no question. But that hardly qualifies him to give a considered opinion any more than Joe Bloggs on the terrace. Most of out defensive dross are still contracted (yeah, cheers Del) but a big part of the problem - Sawyer and Edwards, should never be offered new terms. It's difficult to criticise Edwards because he's had a rough time of it, but his performances simply don't merit a new offer. As for Sawyer, I've every confidence my old mum could beat him in a 60 yd sprint.

Any new manager should absolutely be telling the majority of the contracted dross they're going on the list and they're not in his plans. If not and he's happy to work with these clowns, then there's a painful season ahead.

Hallett should be going hell for leather to get a new man in in the next week or so, then in the meantime the earlybird season ticket offer (sic) needs to be extended so potential renewers can see the new boss and decide from there. One thing's for sure, renewals will be thousands down if the situation just drifts past the deadline date with zero positive statement of intent from the club.

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Ryan Edwards is the next one to announce he is off.

Good is what i say, slow as an over weight walrus and a liability at times which contributed greatly to our defence being so shite. I wont miss him but im sure many will for sentimental reasons.

Out of contract, offered new contract: Graham Carey, ~~Ryan Edwards~~ X, Alex Fletcher, David Fox, Joel Grant, Luke Jephcott, Ruben Lameiras, Ryan Law, Kyle Letheren, Cameron Sangster, Gary Sawyer, Yann Songo'o.

Apprentices offered professional contract: Klaidi Lolos, Michael Peck, Tom Purrington, Adam Randell.

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Ok Im glad hes going but I love the comment" you all stood by me when i needed you" but its a shame he has not returned the same loyalty back to the club and fans

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He's a nice guy and I wish him all the best but most of the relegated squad needs to be gone.

Angry wrote:: Ryan Edwards is the next one to announce he is off.

Good is what i say, slow as an over weight walrus and a liability at times which contributed greatly to our defence being so shite. I wont miss him but im sure many will for sentimental reasons.

Out of contract, offered new contract: Graham Carey, ~~Ryan Edwards~~ X, Alex Fletcher, David Fox, Joel Grant, Luke Jephcott, Ruben Lameiras, Ryan Law, Kyle Letheren, Cameron Sangster, Gary Sawyer, Yann Songo'o.

Apprentices offered professional contract: Klaidi Lolos, Michael Peck, Tom Purrington, Adam Randell.

LAST season's club captain Gary Sawyer has signed a new contract at Home Park.

The 2019-20 season will mark 13 years since Gary made his Pilgrims debut, as a substitute in a 1-0 Championship win over Colchester United in 2006. Since then, the left-back has made a further 248 appearances in Green, ranking him 36th on the all-time list.

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Yay that will get the season tickets rolling in.

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Angry wrote:: Ryan Edwards is the next one to announce he is off.

Good is what i say, slow as an over weight walrus and a liability at times which contributed greatly to our defence being so shite. I wont miss him but im sure many will for sentimental reasons.

Out of contract, offered new contract: Graham Carey, ~~Ryan Edwards~~ X, Alex Fletcher, David Fox, Joel Grant, Luke Jephcott, Ruben Lameiras, Ryan Law, Kyle Letheren, Cameron Sangster, Gary Sawyer, Yann Songo'o.

Apprentices offered professional contract: Klaidi Lolos, Michael Peck, Tom Purrington, Adam Randell.

LAST season's club captain Gary Sawyer has signed a new contract at Home Park.

The 2019-20 season will mark 13 years since Gary made his Pilgrims debut, as a substitute in a 1-0 Championship win over Colchester United in 2006. Since then, the left-back has made a further 248 appearances in Green, ranking him 36th on the all-time list.

Wtf, obviously the board are aiming for mid table L2 mediocrity, next season.

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Jethro wrote:

Angry wrote:: Ryan Edwards is the next one to announce he is off.

Good is what i say, slow as an over weight walrus and a liability at times which contributed greatly to our defence being so shite. I wont miss him but im sure many will for sentimental reasons.

Out of contract, offered new contract: Graham Carey, ~~Ryan Edwards~~ X, Alex Fletcher, David Fox, Joel Grant, Luke Jephcott, Ruben Lameiras, Ryan Law, Kyle Letheren, Cameron Sangster, Gary Sawyer, Yann Songo'o.

Apprentices offered professional contract: Klaidi Lolos, Michael Peck, Tom Purrington, Adam Randell.

LAST season's club captain Gary Sawyer has signed a new contract at Home Park.

The 2019-20 season will mark 13 years since Gary made his Pilgrims debut, as a substitute in a 1-0 Championship win over Colchester United in 2006. Since then, the left-back has made a further 248 appearances in Green, ranking him 36th on the all-time list.

Wtf, obviously the board are aiming for mid table L2 mediocrity, next season.

and that’s if we’re lucky

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Jethro wrote:

Angry wrote:: Ryan Edwards is the next one to announce he is off.

Good is what i say, slow as an over weight walrus and a liability at times which contributed greatly to our defence being so shite. I wont miss him but im sure many will for sentimental reasons.

Out of contract, offered new contract: Graham Carey, ~~Ryan Edwards~~ X, Alex Fletcher, David Fox, Joel Grant, Luke Jephcott, Ruben Lameiras, Ryan Law, Kyle Letheren, Cameron Sangster, Gary Sawyer, Yann Songo'o.

Apprentices offered professional contract: Klaidi Lolos, Michael Peck, Tom Purrington, Adam Randell.

LAST season's club captain Gary Sawyer has signed a new contract at Home Park.

The 2019-20 season will mark 13 years since Gary made his Pilgrims debut, as a substitute in a 1-0 Championship win over Colchester United in 2006. Since then, the left-back has made a further 248 appearances in Green, ranking him 36th on the all-time list.

Wtf, obviously the board are aiming for mid table L2 mediocrity, next season.

He's the type of squad player you need for experience, Sawyers problem is, he is slow now and all that trying to be a wing back stuff was never gonna help him out,

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His experience will be needed but i dont see him being first choice left back ext season. I'm fine with that.

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his experience will be needed when our first choice left back isn't available? how does that work?

Gary Sawyer admitted it was an easy decision to re-sign for Plymouth Argyle even without the club having a manager at the moment.

The left-back will be 34 next month but believes he can continue playing at a good level for another couple of seasons at least.

Sawyer then hopes to get into the football in the community side of the game when he hangs up his boots, and preferably with Argyle.

The experienced defender has signed a new 12-month contract to stay at Home Park.

Sawyer told Plymouth Live: “It was an easy decision for me. I grew up watching the team, my friends all live down in this area and they are all fans of the club.

“So it was a no-brainer for me as soon as they said they would offer me a deal.”

Sawyer took the decision even though Argyle have yet to appoint a successor to former manager Derek Adams.

Bury boss Ryan Lowe appears to have been lined up for the vacancy but there has still been no official confirmation.

Signing for a club without a manager is unusual, to say the least, but Sawyer had no doubts about doing so.

He said: “It’s probably the first time in my career I have ever done that.

“I would have thought it’s pretty rare to get that. I have signed for the football club and I believe they will get the right man in for the job.

“I always back myself to be able to play and work hard enough to get in people’s plans. My decision was based on signing for the football club.”

Sawyer started his career at Argyle after being brought up in north Devon and then returned for a second spell in 2015.

n total, he has made a total of 261 appearances for the Pilgrims, putting him 36 in the all-time list.

Sawyer continued: “At my age, I can just try and work my hardest and extend my contract every year.

“That’s what I have done to this point, and that’s what I will continue to try and do.

“When the club decide enough is enough with me then I will hold my hands up, shake their hand and I will part in good ways.

“The club has been great for me through the years and I’m trying to play for it for as long as I can.”

He added: “I feel like I’m a fit 34-year-old. I always work hard, but it depends on my body and injuries I suppose.

“Big injuries when you are younger you can get sort of through. Big injuries at my age can be a little bit more detrimental to the rest of your career.

“I’m confident I can play for a couple more years, whether that be here or elsewhere.”

As to his future beyond that, Sawyer said: “In an ideal world I would like to stay at Plymouth, in terms of the football in the community side of things.

“I have always enjoyed that side of the football clubs I have been at, and Plymouth is great for that.

“I want to stay in football, and I want to stay with the club.

“If that’s an option when I get to that stage then that would be brilliant, but I will have to cross that bridge when it comes to it.”

Sawyer felt the pain of Argyle’s relegation from League One last term more than most, given his long association with the club.

He said: “It was a frustrating season. You can pick the bones out of certain games that we probably should have won.

“But, also, there is other games we got points out of them where we should have lost.

“It does tend to even itself out over the course of 46 games and, unfortunately for us, it wasn’t good enough last season.”

Argyle’s dramatic loss of form over the closing weeks of the campaign led to the dismissal of Adams after the penultimate game, the 5-1 drubbing at Accrington Stanley.

It was Adams who brought Sawyer back to Home Park in 2015 when the left-back was his first signing as Pilgrims’ boss.

Sawyer said: “I have got nothing but admiration and respect for him. He was brilliant with me on a personal level.

“I played in pretty much every game I was fit for and he was great for me.

“He made me fitter than I have ever been in my career and he was a manager that I wanted to play for, and that’s why I kept signing.

“I was lucky enough that he believed in me and kept giving me deals. I have got nothing but respect for him and what he did for this football club.”

Assistant manager Paul Wotton also lost his job after the humiliating defeat at Accrington, which was a big blow for Sawyer.

He said: “I was as gutted as anyone for Wottsie as well. He has been fantastic with me and obviously I played with him (for Argyle).

“Wottsie is a great friend of mine and it’s not easy when you see people that you respect lose their job.

“Derek is a good manager, Wottsie is a great coach and I’m sure they will go on to other things from here.”

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