EU referendum...THE RESULT...and aftermath...

Earwegoagain wrote:

Even I manage to not fall out with absolutely everybody.

There's a good evenly balanced article in the new Statesman this week giving the real Left view of getting out of the EU. Views that just haven't had much airing in the rigged establishment melee.  

The language is not to the taste of many on here,  but the underlying message is clear, and what needs to happen once we leave one capitalist super state for the old smaller capitalist state.
Here's a quote, and anyone who can be arsed, rather than falling for the divide and rule scenario, can find the article on the New Statesman website, should brexit and what follows next interest more than the cornflakes..  

Quote :

It’s been astounding to witness so many left-wingers, in meltdown over Brexit, resort to parroting liberal economics. Thus we hear that factor mobility isn’t about labour arbitrage, that public services aren’t under pressure, that we must prioritise foreign direct investment and trade. It’s little wonder Labour became so detached from its base. Such claims do not match the lived experience of ordinary people in regions of the country devastated by deindustrialisation and disinvestment.

Nor should concerns about wage stagnation and bargaining power be met with finger-wagging accusations of racism, as if the manner in which capitalism pits workers against each other hasn’t long been understood. Instead, we should be offering real solutions – including a willingness to rethink capital mobility and trade. This places us in direct conflict with the constitutionalised neoliberalism of the EU.  

It's what I've been saying all along Bees.

I know, and if you bothered to listen you would know we haven't been that far apart. I didn't vote purely because I don't believe in monarchist Westminster either to sort out the problems of the rigged "market" and it's ludicrous dominance.
Well written article though.

I know you know.

Without a doubt a contrived and managed event. Piss off middle and lower England holiday people, no loss, no idea exactly who orchestrated and why of course, I'm not kept in the loop. But they're all in it together, and they'll still be all in it together after brexit.

beesrus wrote:

Without a doubt a contrived and managed event. Piss off middle and lower  England holiday people, no loss, no idea exactly who orchestrated and why of course, I'm not kept in the loop. But they're all in it together, and they'll still be all in it together after brexit.

Where do you even begin...?

Is that loop the fruit loop?

You just don't get the small asides and jokes, do you, thicko. You must be a wow at social gatherings..... excuse my friend Rickler, he's just bringing up the rear

The previous statement was meant to be "small asides and jokes" was it?

Thank feck I'm not at the same social gatherings as you.

Where do you go? Parties for mental midgets?

Of course I'm not in any multi billion  loop, you thicko. It does't negate the rest of it that has raised eyebrows of millions. Stick to your dumb pointless questions while the world marches on, and you might just glean an answer one day which enables you to move on to the next square.
I'm actually beginning to think you really are quite dumb. If so, my advice is don't be so aggressive. Here to help.

Believe me. You're nowhere near "actually beginning to think" at all. In any circumstance, or regarding any subject.

Geddon Rickler.
You're just a troll, looking to dump your dirty water. You're a sad one, that's fore shore.

I see the Germans ringing alarm bells about a no deal Brexit and how much it will cost them primarily and also the rest of the eu.

They only think about themselves....and the loss of their car sales to the UK.

No-Brexit deal.....what are people afraid of....we're the 5th biggest economy in the world....lets do it.

READ.....The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray....all about...Immigration...Identity...Islam.....a Bloomsbury Book....£9.99.

'The Strange Death of Europe'...is the account of a continent and a culture caught in the act of suicide.

This book will help you understand why the EU and Europe in general is losing it's identity by the failure of Multi-Culturalism.

Did you know that white UK citizens are now the minority in London.

The Mayor is a Muslim.....one of the front runners for the next PM is a Muslim.

Being white and English will soon mean that you have no land that you can call your Homeland.

My political view used to be Ukip....but they have blown themselves out of the water....so who can I vote for....not the Tories,they're self destructing....not Labour, Comrade Corbyn will make us a satellite of Putins Russia....where is there to go....we need a new centre ground party and quickly.

zyph wrote:

They only think about themselves....and the loss of their car sales to the UK.

These days, everyone thinks about themselves. Make the UK great again. It's called nationalism and protectionism. The UKsters want capital, but not labour LOL, how naive. That won't be happening.
Watching it all unfold is going to be fascinating. Well, not that fascinating.

zyph wrote:

READ.....The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray....all about...Immigration...Identity...Islam.....a Bloomsbury Book....£9.99.

'The Strange Death of Europe'...is the account of a continent and a culture caught in the act of suicide.

This book will help you understand why the EU and Europe in general is losing it's identity by the failure of Multi-Culturalism.

Did you know that white UK citizens are now the minority in London.

The Mayor is a Muslim.....one of the front runners for the next PM is a Muslim.

Being white and English will soon mean that you have no land that you can call your Homeland.

My political view used to be Ukip....but they have blown themselves out of the water....so who can I vote for....not the Tories,they're self destructing....not Labour, Comrade Corbyn will make us a satellite of Putins Russia....where is there to go....we need a new centre ground party and quickly.

Exactly Zyph, the political scene in the UK is a Bleddy nightmare and the thought of Corbyn, Abbot, MacDonald and the rest of the momentum cabal achieving power scares the crap out of me, particularly after enduring the seventies labour government, high inflation, high interest rates and unions that were holding the country to ransom.
All this eventually led up to the anti union laws brought in by Thatchers outfit.

And there's the racist "they'll out breed us" routine you can find in any pub full of old male animals long in the tooth. Don't know how that fits in with your "centre ground" politics you say you're desperately searching for.  Centre ground, my arse.
And who is McDonald by the way ?    LOL
Don't know about you, but I bothered to go listen to a Labour John McDonnell at the city guildhall a couple of years ago, even though I supported another westminster political party. He said   "unearned income/ capital earnings" were for the first time larger in the UK than income derived through wages and salaries. Does that scare the crap out of you ? It should do.

beesrus wrote:

And there's the racist "they'll out breed us" routine you can find in any pub full of old male animals long in the tooth. Don't know how that fits in with your "centre ground" politics you say you're desperately searching for.  Centre ground, my arse.
And who is McDonald by the way ?    LOL
Don't know about you, but I bothered to go listen to a Labour John McDonnell at the city guildhall a couple of years ago, even though I supported another westminster political party. He said   "unearned income/ capital earnings" were for the first time larger in the UK than income derived through wages and salaries. Does that scare the crap out of you ? It should do.

Being the alleged smart arse you think you are I think you know who I was referring too, no I didn’t bother to go and listen to that bigot, I exercised my rights not to listen to that left wing prick just as you exercised your rights not to vote in the EU referendum, I’ll leave it to others to give an opinion on whose the contradictor.

Graiser wrote:

zyph wrote:

READ.....The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray....all about...Immigration...Identity...Islam.....a Bloomsbury Book....£9.99.

'The Strange Death of Europe'...is the account of a continent and a culture caught in the act of suicide.

This book will help you understand why the EU and Europe in general is losing it's identity by the failure of Multi-Culturalism.

Did you know that white UK citizens are now the minority in London.

The Mayor is a Muslim.....one of the front runners for the next PM is a Muslim.

Being white and English will soon mean that you have no land that you can call your Homeland.

My political view used to be Ukip....but they have blown themselves out of the water....so who can I vote for....not the Tories,they're self destructing....not Labour, Comrade Corbyn will make us a satellite of Putins Russia....where is there to go....we need a new centre ground party and quickly.

Exactly Zyph, the political scene in the UK is a Bleddy nightmare and the thought of Corbyn, Abbot, MacDonald and the rest of the momentum cabal achieving power scares the crap out of me, particularly after enduring the seventies labour government, high inflation, high interest rates and unions that were holding the country to ransom.
All this eventually  led up to the anti union laws brought in by Thatchers outfit.

Oh my god a Muslim mayor and our pure white English blood being mixed with darkies. Both of you could have started your posts with "I'm not racist but...........

I'm not racist but why do ISIS throw gays off rooftops, prevent girls from going to school and chop peoples heads off?

PatDunne wrote:

I'm not racist but why do ISIS throw gays off rooftops, prevent girls from going to school and chop peoples heads off?

Because they feckin lunatics obviously. What has that got to do with the mayor of London or the horrors of mixed races?

PatDunne wrote:

I'm not racist but why do ISIS throw gays off rooftops, prevent girls from going to school and chop peoples heads off?

Ah I get it. ISIS represents all Muslims including The mayor of London and some MPs therefore Mo Salah and Paul Pogba are undercover terrorists who are planning to blow up Wembley. Didn't take too long for the racists to come out to play this morning

Big Robby wrote:

PatDunne wrote:

I'm not racist but why do ISIS throw gays off rooftops, prevent girls from going to school and chop peoples heads off?

Ah I get it. ISIS represents all Muslims including The mayor of London and some MPs therefore Mo Salah and Paul Pogba are undercover terrorists who are planning to blow up Wembley. Didn't take too long for the racists to come out to play this morning

I merely asked a question, it was you who chose to say who ISIS might represent...