The Mankover all action Thread.

Work stopped on the facade and portakabin shop/ticket office months ago. It's just been left in a total mess. Yep, and it's obvious even to all apart from the dimmest of brentophiles that no works contracts have been signed to mankover the mayflower.

Relegated and a stadium that literally looks like its had a direct hit from a 1000 lbs bomb. Well done brent.

harvetheslayer wrote:

P.O.I wrote:

Punchdrunk wrote:

Can anyone confirm or deny if this drainage issue has been resolved?

I think Harve's been on the case. Apparently the drainage issue has still not been resolved but they have permission to carry on with enabling work. Apoggs if wrong, but that's the jist of things I got from Harve.

Yes no change.
When you think they actually started in April knocking down outhouses, shithouses, far post, removing seats (they're actually still in situ on Mayflower level) its quite unbelievable what they havent achieved. 6 months of enablement could have been done in 2 weeks tops by a professional contractor. For a £6-7 million job there is virtually no one up there.
Look at the photos Bungo put up half botched rooms with stuff hanging down its a complete mess. Its pretty obvious now the main contract for the refurb isnt signed. Planning doesnt exist. That is known
PCC had a meeting originally scheduled for the 12th with the senior water engineer Andy (forget his surname for the moment) to assess progress. It was no coincidence Bungo released that blog on the same day claiming all is well
Look at the portacabin city club shop. 8 weeks to fit out a portacabin !!  Pure Gold absolute gold

Whats more everyone on ATD knew and stated in advance this was exactly what was going to happen

Actually 12 weeks and counting and no word from Bungo on the topic.

Hugh Watt wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

P.O.I wrote:

Punchdrunk wrote:

Can anyone confirm or deny if this drainage issue has been resolved?

I think Harve's been on the case. Apparently the drainage issue has still not been resolved but they have permission to carry on with enabling work. Apoggs if wrong, but that's the jist of things I got from Harve.

Yes no change.
When you think they actually started in April knocking down outhouses, shithouses, far post, removing seats (they're actually still in situ on Mayflower level) its quite unbelievable what they havent achieved. 6 months of enablement could have been done in 2 weeks tops by a professional contractor. For a £6-7 million job there is virtually no one up there.
Look at the photos Bungo put up half botched rooms with stuff hanging down its a complete mess. Its pretty obvious now the main contract for the refurb isnt signed. Planning doesnt exist. That is known
PCC had a meeting originally scheduled for the 12th with the senior water engineer Andy (forget his surname for the moment) to assess progress. It was no coincidence Bungo released that blog on the same day claiming all is well
Look at the portacabin city club shop. 8 weeks to fit out a portacabin !!  Pure Gold absolute gold

Whats more everyone on ATD knew and stated in advance this was exactly what was going to happen

Actually 12 weeks and counting and no word from Bungo on the topic.

Yes you're right. Am guessing this is one of the reasons Cam 1 was aborted
What a total clusterfuck this is. Bobbys garden has even taken vigorous root over the summer again

its okay they aren't portacabins....

from the farm
"They’re not portakabins, they’re part of a modular build"

It’s not just the area in general that looks like a bomb tip, the health and safety of the mankover is also in clip.

Edge protection issues plus a bloke swinging the bucket of his 360 dropping dirt into the dumper with the dumper driver still sat in the seat.

The HSE have been known to slap out prohibition notices for less.

Jethro wrote:

its okay they aren't portacabins....

from the farm
"They’re not portakabins, they’re part of a modular build"

So they are a "modular build" of Portakabins.

Cretins.

akagreengull wrote:

Jethro wrote:

its okay they aren't portacabins....

from the farm
"They’re not portakabins, they’re part of a modular build"

So they are a "modular build" of Portakabins.

Cretins.

If its not built out of Bricks and Mortar, its a Shed or a Brentocabin ffs!

Brentocabin

Apparently work could start in the autumn, however this was Autumn 5 years ago.

The fantasist and the control freak, they make a lovely pair

Dick Trickle wrote:

Apparently work could start in the autumn, however this was Autumn 5 years ago.

Love the bit where nool gets his quids worth in.

What a crock of absolute shit
James Brent the ultimate Walter Mitty, liar and fantasist

Lets not forget Bent you were supposed to be providing a FOC £10 million new grandstand instead we have an ex copper project managing an utter fiasco "loan" that 10 months after planning was provisional granted we are still waiting for the speccy idiot to sign it off

Corrupt and utterly inept

Surely it’s only a matter of time before the fraud squad come knocking on Jim’s modular door how this tosser ain’t been nicked for his business shenanigans baffles me

RegGreen wrote:

Surely it’s only a matter of time before the fraud squad come knocking on Jim’s modular door how this tosser ain’t been nicked for his business shenanigans baffles me

Hides behind limited companies Reg but agree time he had his collar felt. Am not ruling out David Felwick having uncovered Brent dipping his trotters into PAFC funds to prop up his catastrophic business "empire" and bailing before Plod arrives

Felwicks about turn and work on the development completely stalling (more than normal) is ringing alarm bells

Oh yeah I forgot his allowed to do it cos his a businessman (pisspottys train of thought)ffs
If it was me you or anybody else you would have had the Rozzers taking your door off it’s hinges at 5.30 am one morning ffs

Am starting to seriously wonder seeing work has come virtually to a halt if Hallett behind the scenes is going to red card the lot knock it down and do it properly.
Any work done to date is minimal (only Bungos half hearted wrecking ball) no changing rooms built, portacabins not fitted out, facade just left
Makes you wonder

Don’t know how the F#%K he got away with the pavilion deal ffs...the fraud squad should be sniffing all over that one just for starters

harvetheslayer wrote:

Am starting to seriously wonder seeing work has come virtually to a halt if Hallett behind the scenes is going to red card the lot knock it down and do it properly.
Any work done to date is minimal (only Bungos half hearted wrecking ball) no changing rooms built, portacabins not fitted out, facade just left
Makes you wonder

To add to that the Taverers non planning, hence leaving the whole site available to build a proper grandstand - interesting times on and off the pitch!! Said it a while ago - hope Hallett has more money than sense!!

Thanks Dick for posting that video, it was very timely given the state of "progress" at the theatre of schemes, completely highlights how the club has been used and exploited by a shyster and aided and abetted by a an odious self interested oaf.
Over to Simon Hallett to save the day, the situation really is akin to a cowboy builder coming in wrecking your house and going off with your money with promises to come back and fix it.

If I were Hallett, I would't loan my money to such a poor plan. Maybe he'll wake up.

It all just doesn't make sense. A fragmented horror story, disguised by a make believe completed stadium intended to deceive. I'm wondering if Brent's all there. Weird.

Agree, maybe Hallett will just sit back and do nothing, maybe he will come in with a dynamic plan to turn this epic mess around - we just don't know.
The next month will be make or break for Argyle not just for this season but for the longer term.

I thought Mr Hallet said he was going to run the club like Brent did. Or was I dreaming when I read that? Maybe I was tripping on Calstock hand picked mushrooms. Pfft!

P.O.I wrote:

I thought Mr Hallet said he was going to run the club like Brent did. Or was I dreaming when I read that? Maybe I was tripping on Calstock hand picked mushrooms. Pfft!

Mushrooms around this neck of the woods are pretty good apparently. A mate of mine unintentionally tried some once when we were about 13 and spent the evening hallucinatiing that he was being chased around his house by some fairly horrific monster type creatures. Never again he said and he's stuck to LSD ever since.

Companion piece to the video from when the AFT met Tudor Evans...

Earlier this month, Andy Symons and Sam Down, Chair and Vice Chair of the AFT, met with Tudor Evans from Plymouth City Council and Luke Pollard (the prospective parliamentary candidate for the Plymouth Sutton and Devonport ward) in connection with the plans for Higher Home Park and the future of the development and the land which has been designated for its usage.

A summary of the points discussed follows:
•When talking of the seriousness of failing to complete Higher Home Park in relation to the future financial stability of the club, Tudor Evans rejected the idea that HHP would be the ‘salvation’ of Argyle. Mr Evans re-iterated that Akkeron and PAFC are separate and that the completion of the stand could not and will not solve the problem of the balloon payment.
•It was then re-iterated clearly that even if the development were to start tomorrow (and even if it started on time), it would never be able to raise enough money to fund the balloon payment in time. Therefore, the stand cannot be the ‘salvation’ of the club.
•Mr Evans agreed that projected income streams of £1 million + per year in extra revenue from the proposed development was ‘pushing it a lot’.
•Mr Evans went on to talk about the assistance that the Council has given in order to get the project underway. In addition to the rates relief confirmed earlier in the year, this has included rent relief to Plymouth Argyle on the ground over the two and a half years that James Brent has owned the club. This rent relief has now reached the maximum amount that the Council are allowed to give by law.
•When asked why the HHP development had stalled, Mr Evans gave a number of reasons: •Firstly, he stated that lettings on the potential site are going at a much slower rate than was planned.
•The timetable has slipped far beyond its original timescale.
•The plan for HHP was predicated a percentage of the funding being taken up by Plymouth City Council and Plymouth Community Health. Mr Evans stated that neither organisation was made aware of this predication by Akkeron at the time of planning permission being issued and had no way of knowing.
•Mr Evans confirmed that the plan for a hotel on Higher Home Park has fallen through and will not be happening.

•It was also re-iterated that the only obligation in terms of an ice rink was for James Brent to provide ‘continuous ice’. It does not need to be on Higher Home Park and could theoretically be located anywhere.
•Mr Evans made certain to point out that the Bretonside development was not to blame for the stalling of the HHP development. He stated that the Bretonside development has not had planning permission yet whereas HHP has had planning permission for around a year. Even before the Bretonside proposal came into public knowledge, Higher Home Park was not going as quickly with its lettings as it had hoped.
•To summarise, the AFT was informed that Higher Home Park is behind on all plans for both the fulfilment of its lettings and the planned timescale of building work. It was also predicated on letting arrangements that had not been made known to 16% of the participants (PCC and PCH). Contrary to initial plans, a hotel and studio school will not be part of any final design for HHP. As well as this, the development cannot raise the funds in time to make the balloon payment and Bretonside is not the reason for its delay.

I think Hallett has played a blinder in making Brent responsible for delivering the refurb. I think it's obvious Brent is trying to exhort more money from the club to get him gone and I think it's getting more obvious that Hallett isn't going to do it. Obviously Hallett more than anyone will know what an utter fiasco the whole project is from start to finish. Brent will end up with the egg on his face when he runs out of time and the project is officially labelled as stalled.
I think the clock is ticking on Brent as we speak.