EU referendum...THE RESULT...and aftermath...

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

1.5 million young people denied a voice about THEIR future in the 2016 referendum have since turned 18.
55,000 people turn 18 every month.

What about the will of those people?

How is denying them a vote democratic?

Leave had best get that 2nd referendum scheduled soon because with every passing day Leave is losing it by a little more.

I wasn't old enough to vote in the referendum to join the European dream. Do you think they will re run that so I can vote?

I wasn't old enough either and no because it has since been superceded.

Do keep up.

Well according to the Independant, Gina Miller fought article fifty to avert world war. As much of a loon as you are I'd suggest Franny. And fighting article 50 is fighting Brexit actually happening which would be against the result of the referendum which was held and won by leave. Article 50 is the mechanism used to leave the EU fighting that is fighting against the law IMO. She is trying to overturn a result that she doesn't like. If the tables were turned and the result imagine the fuss if the leavers were still trying to have a re run, reverse the result, just leaving anyway ect ect. It wouldn't happen. These attempts to overturn the ref by the lords,parliament, law courts shouldn't be happening.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

1.5 million young people denied a voice about THEIR future in the 2016 referendum have since turned 18.
55,000 people turn 18 every month.

What about the will of those people?

How is denying them a vote democratic?

Leave had best get that 2nd referendum scheduled soon because with every passing day Leave is losing it by a little more.

Where do you draw the line Franny? Re run every election in the last hundred years? They weren't old enough to vote as we weren't in the seventies one. It's a complete non event as an argument except its about Brexit so in your eyes the rule book can go out of the window until you get the result you and the rest of the vocal minority want.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

1.5 million young people denied a voice about THEIR future in the 2016 referendum have since turned 18.
55,000 people turn 18 every month.

What about the will of those people?

How is denying them a vote democratic?

Leave had best get that 2nd referendum scheduled soon because with every passing day Leave is losing it by a little more.

I wasn't old enough to vote in the referendum to join the European dream. Do you think they will re run that so I can vote?

I wasn't old enough either and no because it has since been superceded.

Do keep up.

Then so has the leave or stay referendum with the activation of Article 50 and the passing of the Bills the other day.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

...you don't get much less Elite or Establishment than me.

This little nugget illustrates nicely just how out of touch you are.  I'd hazard a guess that you are more elite(whether you like it or not)  than 50% of the population.  Anyone who has spent years as a civil servant and enjoys a gold plated pension etc, has to be bracketed thus in the real world.

Hazard any guesses you like.

It doesn't make your guesses any more accurate than anybody else's.

And remember that guesses is exactly what they are.

The guess referred to the percentage, could be 40%, could be 60. The civil servant/gold plated pension thing stands. You are no swampy, that's foreshore.

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Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

...you don't get much less Elite or Establishment than me.

This little nugget illustrates nicely just how out of touch you are.  I'd hazard a guess that you are more elite(whether you like it or not)  than 50% of the population.  Anyone who has spent years as a civil servant and enjoys a gold plated pension etc, has to be bracketed thus in the real world.

Hazard any guesses you like.

It doesn't make your guesses any more accurate than anybody else's.

And remember that guesses is exactly what they are.

The guess referred to the percentage, could be 40%, could be 60. The civil servant/gold plated pension thing stands. You are no swampy, that's foreshore. [/quote

He could always deny it.

Or just ignore it as guess work from somebody who knows nothing.

Out of interest why is it only my hourly rate of pay and pension arrangements that are of interest?

It's all pointless anyway because I will neither confirm nor deny either way and neither is of anybody's business but mine.

I wouldn't dream of even raising the question about somebody else on a messageboard because it's none of my business.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

1.5 million young people denied a voice about THEIR future in the 2016 referendum have since turned 18.
55,000 people turn 18 every month.

What about the will of those people?

How is denying them a vote democratic?

Leave had best get that 2nd referendum scheduled soon because with every passing day Leave is losing it by a little more.

Where do you draw the line Franny? Re run every election in the last hundred years? They weren't old enough to vote as we weren't in the seventies one. It's a complete non event as an argument except its about Brexit so in your eyes the rule book can go out of the window until you get the result you and the rest of the vocal minority want.

1. General elections are not advisory.
2. They are re-run approximately every 4 years whatever the result.

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

1.5 million young people denied a voice about THEIR future in the 2016 referendum have since turned 18.
55,000 people turn 18 every month.

What about the will of those people?

How is denying them a vote democratic?

Leave had best get that 2nd referendum scheduled soon because with every passing day Leave is losing it by a little more.

I wasn't old enough to vote in the referendum to join the European dream. Do you think they will re run that so I can vote?

I wasn't old enough either and no because it has since been superceded.

Do keep up.

Then so has the leave or stay referendum with the activation of Article 50 and the passing of the Bills the other day.

Article 50 could be stopped with the consent of all parties concerned and/or another bill could be passed.

So I'm not allowed to respond to wildly inaccurate claims such as "you don't get much less elite than me"? give over Foodbank Frank.

"Wildly inaccurate"?

There you go again: another guess.

So are you one of the most underprivileged people in the country, behave. Your low level champagne socialism is there for all to see.

Les Miserable wrote:

So are you one of the most underprivileged people in the country, behave. Your low level champagne socialism is there for all to see.

More guesswork and Straw Man building.

This place is getting to be utterly ridiculous.

"Wildly inaccurate"... Might be some truth in that?

I'm guessing the former toothpaste salesman turned teacher has probably spent considerable time on the dole.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

So are you one of the most underprivileged people in the country, behave. Your low level champagne socialism is there for all to see.

More guesswork and Straw Man building.

This place is getting to be utterly ridiculous.

The first part was a question ???

Les Miserable wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

So are you one of the most underprivileged people in the country, behave. Your low level champagne socialism is there for all to see.

More guesswork and Straw Man building.

This place is getting to be utterly ridiculous.

  The first part was a question ???

Difficult to tell what it was with no question mark and the incoherent grammar.

Even if it was a question it is still none of your, or anybody else's, business.

Teacher knows best

Do keep up.

I'm a toothpaste salesman and a dolie now, apparently.

More guessing and another Straw Man.

It's getting to be like a scarecrow convention around here.

B Johnson Jul 17: “There's no plan for no deal because we're going to get a great deal."

L Fox Jul 17: "A deal with the EU should be one of the easiest in human history."

M Gove Apr 16: "We hold all the cards."

D Davis Jun 17: “You can be sure there'll be a deal."

Here's one of those illegal FB ads.

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Misleading as well as illegal because Turkey isn't joining the EU but even if it was as a member we could have vetoed thm joining.

Political advertising, by law, should always be labelled as such and it should always be clear who has paid for the advert

Question for Frank.....How high is a grasshoppers thigh?

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

1.5 million young people denied a voice about THEIR future in the 2016 referendum have since turned 18.
55,000 people turn 18 every month.

What about the will of those people?

How is denying them a vote democratic?

Leave had best get that 2nd referendum scheduled soon because with every passing day Leave is losing it by a little more.

I wasn't old enough to vote in the referendum to join the European dream. Do you think they will re run that so I can vote?

I wasn't old enough either and no because it has since been superceded.

Do keep up.

Then so has the leave or stay referendum with the activation of Article 50 and the passing of the Bills the other day.

Article 50 could be stopped with the consent of all parties concerned and/or another bill could be passed.

But that would be against the will of the people.

Not democratic.

Hugh Watt wrote:

Graiser wrote:

I never believed the 350million a week bollox for the nhs and it never influenced me, as for future trading contracts, we’ll there are 53 other members of the commonwealth and amongst them are some serious economies, India, Canada, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand for instance I’m pretty confident we won’t be starving.

As for the alleged companies and persons moving overseas, bugger that’s been going on for years while in the Bleddy EEC, so what’s new.

The idea that the Commonwealth can replace the trade we do with the EU has been ridiculed by most serious economists.

What do you propose we do, export Artisan cider to The Gambia.

There was a lot of ridicule and bollox from the remain camp and economists trying to scare the voters, it didn’t work then and doesn’t now.

You may laugh but I wasn’t suggesting the commonwealth countries would wholly equal the EU trade, however take a look in history.

Here's another illegal both in funding and content FB ad from the Leave campaign.

Invent a number and then use it to make a point that has no validation whatsoever. This is the old Straw Man again.

It panders to fears about immigration for some reason I cannot fathom if it isn't based in racism.

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