Momento de la verdad

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Brent must be more skint than we thought.

Shyster hasn't a Pot to Piss in and fair play to a few on Porkys Farm who have the Guts to say it now. Suspect if Napoleons Enforcers were to drop their Master 95% of that Forum would say it openly.....

Czarcasm wrote:

It's a bit of an odd rant, Lordy. Argyle, and the vast majority of other clubs have season tickets that in effect give you about six games free. As far as I can remember that has always been the case - about 6 games free.  Now if you're planning on going to all of them anyway, then it's a no-brainer - if you can afford the lump up front. If there was no disparity between season ticket pricing and pay on the day, they'd sell virtually no season tickets.

It's just as well you aren't an Accrington fan - the disparity between their ST prices and pay on the day would probably make you want to boil your head with rage.

It's neither odd nor a rant Czarky, just a consistently put point of view. You obviously are one of those fans who see no problem whatsoever in regular customers paying 50% less than that which the rest pay. Far, far too much discount.
And you're wrong, in the old days season tickets were nowhere near that discounted. They were purely functional with a small discount, to allow people to arrive late or stay in the bar, yet still have the place they wanted, with a good view. The mass ST thing came about through the Taylor all seating nonsense, and the advent of the premiership, with it's sell out crowds. It's also wrapped up in the direct debit culture that I find a bit dodgy for several reasons. And to have turned the whole ST thing into a huge discount that everyone else pays for is not my idea of good business sense. But mostly, it's just plain unfair and something that has grated for many years now.
As for Accrington, I don't know or care what they do. They're irrelevant.

As for president webb, I detect a sneaky ploy and gift to his sponsor, under the guise of the mayflower. He's basically giving Brent the green light to charge more for an "in demand" game, extra seating or no. " Make some more dosh for the club, James." Cash in, fans will pay it.
Such a socialist.

harvetheslayer wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Brent must be more skint than we thought.

Shyster hasn't a Pot to Piss in and fair play to a few on Porkys Farm who have the Guts to say it now. Suspect if Napoleons Enforcers were to drop their Master 95% of that Forum would say it openly.....

by the way where is porky seems a bit to quiet while the villeges go into revolt

RegGreen wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Brent must be more skint than we thought.

Shyster hasn't a Pot to Piss in and fair play to a few on Porkys Farm who have the Guts to say it now. Suspect if Napoleons Enforcers were to drop their Master 95% of that Forum would say it openly.....

by the way where is porky seems a bit to quiet while the villeges go into revolt

Planning his Exit Strategy plus debriefing his Enforcers after last nights Farm Revolt required them to visit certain Posters for some attitude adjustment......

harvetheslayer wrote:

RegGreen wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Brent must be more skint than we thought.

Shyster hasn't a Pot to Piss in and fair play to a few on Porkys Farm who have the Guts to say it now. Suspect if Napoleons Enforcers were to drop their Master 95% of that Forum would say it openly.....

by the way where is porky seems a bit to quiet while the villeges go into revolt

Planning his Exit Strategy plus debriefing his Enforcers after last nights Farm Revolt required them to visit certain Posters for some attitude adjustment......

Ministry of truth played out - George Orwell luv it over there!!

Lord Biro wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

It's a bit of an odd rant, Lordy. Argyle, and the vast majority of other clubs have season tickets that in effect give you about six games free. As far as I can remember that has always been the case - about 6 games free.  Now if you're planning on going to all of them anyway, then it's a no-brainer - if you can afford the lump up front. If there was no disparity between season ticket pricing and pay on the day, they'd sell virtually no season tickets.

It's just as well you aren't an Accrington fan - the disparity between their ST prices and pay on the day would probably make you want to boil your head with rage.

It's neither odd nor a rant Czarky, just a consistently put point of view. You obviously are one of those fans who see no problem whatsoever in regular customers paying 50% less than that which the rest pay. Far, far too much discount.
And you're wrong, in the old days season tickets were nowhere near that discounted. They were purely functional with a small discount, to allow people to arrive late or stay in the bar, yet still have the place they wanted, with a good view. The mass ST thing came about through the Taylor all seating nonsense, and the advent of the premiership, with it's sell out crowds. It's also wrapped up in the direct debit culture that I find a bit dodgy for several reasons. And to have turned the whole ST thing into a huge discount that everyone else pays for is not my idea of good business sense. But mostly, it's just plain unfair and something that has grated for many years now.
As for Accrington, I don't know or care what they do. They're irrelevant.

Well I find it odd Lordy. Accy is quite relevant to the point being made, because they take what you find so offensive to the extreme.

What's odder though, is you complaining about it anyway. It's like a person who has no intention of eating chicken, complaining what it tastes like!

RegGreen wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Brent must be more skint than we thought.

Shyster hasn't a Pot to Piss in and fair play to a few on Porkys Farm who have the Guts to say it now. Suspect if Napoleons Enforcers were to drop their Master 95% of that Forum would say it openly.....

by the way where is porky seems a bit to quiet while the villeges go into revolt

GoS ...Gills pic No 53.

zyph wrote:

RegGreen wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Brent must be more skint than we thought.

Shyster hasn't a Pot to Piss in and fair play to a few on Porkys Farm who have the Guts to say it now. Suspect if Napoleons Enforcers were to drop their Master 95% of that Forum would say it openly.....

by tlhe way where is porky seems a bit to quiet while the villeges go into revolt

GoS ...Gills pic No 53.

Wow, menacing!

Czarcasm wrote:

Lord Biro wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

It's a bit of an odd rant, Lordy. Argyle, and the vast majority of other clubs have season tickets that in effect give you about six games free. As far as I can remember that has always been the case - about 6 games free.  Now if you're planning on going to all of them anyway, then it's a no-brainer - if you can afford the lump up front. If there was no disparity between season ticket pricing and pay on the day, they'd sell virtually no season tickets.

It's just as well you aren't an Accrington fan - the disparity between their ST prices and pay on the day would probably make you want to boil your head with rage.

It's neither odd nor a rant Czarky, just a consistently put point of view. You obviously are one of those fans who see no problem whatsoever in regular customers paying 50% less than that which the rest pay. Far, far too much discount.
And you're wrong, in the old days season tickets were nowhere near that discounted. They were purely functional with a small discount, to allow people to arrive late or stay in the bar, yet still have the place they wanted, with a good view. The mass ST thing came about through the Taylor all seating nonsense, and the advent of the premiership, with it's sell out crowds. It's also wrapped up in the direct debit culture that I find a bit dodgy for several reasons. And to have turned the whole ST thing into a huge discount that everyone else pays for is not my idea of good business sense. But mostly, it's just plain unfair and something that has grated for many years now.
As for Accrington, I don't know or care what they do. They're irrelevant.

Well I find it odd Lordy. Accy is quite relevant to the point being made, because they take what you find so offensive to the extreme.

What's odder though, is you complaining about it anyway. It's like a person who has no intention of eating chicken, complaining what it tastes like!

Well, no wonder Accrington amass such huge crowds then.
I ate a lot of chicken in my time. It tastes fowl, hence I no longer eat it, but I see no reason why I shouldn't give my opinion on  the husbandry and welfare issues bringing said product to the market place.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

It's not in his interests for it to happen. Once 20,000 people turn up for a 4th tier game the idea that 17,000 capacity will be adequate for CCC football will be exposed for the nonsense that it is.

Parking that for a moment there is no reason it couldn't be done and apologists for Brent, like Rickler (planning permission for temperaray seating? Have a word with yourself), should be ignored.

If there is a desire for it to be done it can be done and it will be done.

So get it done because there'll be no Wembley windfall if we don't get there.

I didn't read beyond this post. When I saw that El Presido had surfaced my 1st thought was ''lock up your missus'' or, indeed, in some cases no doubt put a light by your door to help him find your house. Back on thread though. I thought his comments will really test JB and his commitment. I can see no excuse for it not happening unless someone forgets to post the application for a safety certificate or forgets to unlock the gates when the chairs arrive. We'll see.

Lord Biro wrote:

BBC1 wrote:

All the playoff matches will be shown on sky.
That's how we'll be watching the semi finals anyway.
And we (me + 2 juniors) are season ticket holders
If we get to Wembley,  I'll have to go and take the lads, as to miss the experience at their age will live with them forever.

I think that adds to my theory somewhat that most ST holders wouldn't dream of paying the normal full POTD price asked of casuals/regular cash payers every other week..

A theory is what it is, I was always POTD until the kids all buggered off and now I'm a ST holder cos it's a good deal.

Lord Biro wrote:

BBC1 wrote:

All the playoff matches will be shown on sky.
That's how we'll be watching the semi finals anyway.
And we (me + 2 juniors) are season ticket holders
If we get to Wembley,  I'll have to go and take the lads, as to miss the experience at their age will live with them forever.

I think that adds to my theory somewhat that most ST holders wouldn't dream of paying the normal full POTD price asked of casuals/regular cash payers every other week..

Not really LB
Until I met my lovely Mrs, I used to be a POTD person, even though I used to go to 90% of the matches throughout the season, home and away.
When I proposed to her, she got an engagement ring and she bought me my first ever season ticket.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Frank Bullitt wrote:

All the Presidents Men wrote:

RegGreen wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

 Not on your nelly.

You think a man who won't pay 1500 quid to restore the most historic part of the ground or pay someone to clean the back of the grandstand where some of the accumulated detritus dates back to the 70s would even consider such a pie chart in the sky idea?

yep wouldnt even pull up £200 for a video camera for hodgies youth team if can remember so what chance have you got of him putting any seats in i tell what chance F#@K all

Fooks me, i know it's been acknowledged here already, but has El Presidento plagiarised your idea some 7 hours or so later???

They don't read ATD so I am sure he thought of it all by himself.

Has he?

Blimey.

Add plagiarist to the list.

It was on his twitter account at 2.07am this morning.
apparently.
I don't read Twitter.

BBC1 wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Frank Bullitt wrote:

All the Presidents Men wrote:

RegGreen wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

 Not on your nelly.

You think a man who won't pay 1500 quid to restore the most historic part of the ground or pay someone to clean the back of the grandstand where some of the accumulated detritus dates back to the 70s would even consider such a pie chart in the sky idea?

yep wouldnt even pull up £200 for a video camera for hodgies youth team if can remember so what chance have you got of him putting any seats in i tell what chance F#@K all

Fooks me, i know it's been acknowledged here already, but has El Presidento plagiarised your idea some 7 hours or so later???

They don't read ATD so I am sure he thought of it all by himself.

Has he?

Blimey.

Add plagiarist to the list.

It was on his twitter account at 2.07am this morning.
apparently.
I don't read Twitter.

Franny obviously does

BBC1 wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Frank Bullitt wrote:

All the Presidents Men wrote:

RegGreen wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

 Not on your nelly.

You think a man who won't pay 1500 quid to restore the most historic part of the ground or pay someone to clean the back of the grandstand where some of the accumulated detritus dates back to the 70s would even consider such a pie chart in the sky idea?

yep wouldnt even pull up £200 for a video camera for hodgies youth team if can remember so what chance have you got of him putting any seats in i tell what chance F#@K all

Fooks me, i know it's been acknowledged here already, but has El Presidento plagiarised your idea some 7 hours or so later???

They don't read ATD so I am sure he thought of it all by himself.

Has he?

Blimey.

Add plagiarist to the list.

It was on his twitter account at 2.07am this morning.
apparently.
I don't read Twitter.

It is currently 21:05. If you look at the time for a tweet just made it will say 13:05. For some reason Twitter Time is 8 hours behind UK time.

If Webb's tweet was sent at 2:07 Twitter time it was really sent at 18:07 UK time (shortly after the Cambridge game) which was many hours before I made my post so if there is any plagiarism going on it was perpetrated by me.

Except I don't follow him and hadn't seen his tweet so it must just be coincidence that we came up with the same idea.

I've just had a look at his tweets and he also tweeted "Almost 40,000 supporters will watch Argyle v Pompey over 2 legs in LEAGUE TWO. Only in England [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]" at, apparently 9:59 am yesterday making it 1:59 am which was about 15 hours before we knew we'd be playing Pompey at all...

Does anybody know how Twitter time stamps work because this doesn't make any sense?

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

There used to temp seats in there before and all rules and regs were complied with then and would be again now.

Those pointing out any reason why this can't work, because it could if the desire was there to make it happen, with the sole intention of rubbishing the idea are doing Brent's work for him hence "Brent apologists like Rickler" (and we can now add Rollo).

Ah I get it.

Dare to criticise the Left and you must be Tory scum.

Ditto criticise your bizarre non starter and you must be a Brent apologist.

Is there anything you're not an expert on?

Where did he say that?

Lord Biro wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

It's a bit of an odd rant, Lordy. Argyle, and the vast majority of other clubs have season tickets that in effect give you about six games free. As far as I can remember that has always been the case - about 6 games free.  Now if you're planning on going to all of them anyway, then it's a no-brainer - if you can afford the lump up front. If there was no disparity between season ticket pricing and pay on the day, they'd sell virtually no season tickets.

It's just as well you aren't an Accrington fan - the disparity between their ST prices and pay on the day would probably make you want to boil your head with rage.

It's neither odd nor a rant Czarky, just a consistently put point of view. You obviously are one of those fans who see no problem whatsoever in regular customers paying 50% less than that which the rest pay. Far, far too much discount.
And you're wrong, in the old days season tickets were nowhere near that discounted. They were purely functional with a small discount, to allow people to arrive late or stay in the bar, yet still have the place they wanted, with a good view. The mass ST thing came about through the Taylor all seating nonsense, and the advent of the premiership, with it's sell out crowds. It's also wrapped up in the direct debit culture that I find a bit dodgy for several reasons. And to have turned the whole ST thing into a huge discount that everyone else pays for is not my idea of good business sense. But mostly, it's just plain unfair and something that has grated for many years now.
As for Accrington, I don't know or care what they do. They're irrelevant.

That's harsh. I'm sure there are some on here that yearn for the days of casual racism and fear of getting your head kicked but the Taylor report effectively saved the game along with Gazza's tears, Pavarotti and the fanzine movement refusing to accept that all supporters are thugs and could provide intelligent insight.

Taylor worked out that most football grounds were decrepit shitholes, that if you treat people like animals thats how they'll behave and that South Yorkshire police were a bunch of arseholes. Accrington are a fine club, admittedly I never want to play them but I wouldn't call the irrelevant

I did skim through a thread about the seats (pisspotty?) and someone had worked out the financial viability and basically showed it was not going to make any money. My thoughts were ''FFS - the financial viability should not even be part of the equation'' The aim is to make the match a bit more intimidating with a bigger crowd and to ensure we have some of our loudest and more forthright fans right behind the dugouts. So, come on JB, get it fixed.

As a one-off it probably wouldn't make money.

As a part of a package that sees us beat Pompey it is priceless.

And there'll be no Wembley windfall if we don't beat Pompey.

We should throw everything we have at beating Pompey. It's kitchen sink time not spreadsheet time.

We could have 100,000 extra seats and fill them with Millwall, Galatasary and Glasgow Rangers fans and it still wouldn't be enough to intimidate Pompey, in fact it'd be more likely to intimidate us, play it behind closed doors I say.

Les Miserable wrote:

We could have 100,000 extra seats and fill them with Millwall, Galatasary and Glasgow Rangers fans and it still wouldn't be enough to intimidate Pompey, in fact it'd be more likely to intimidate us, play it behind closed doors I say.

Could play the home leg away at .. Elburton or Parkway

tigertony wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

We could have 100,000 extra seats and fill them with Millwall, Galatasary and Glasgow Rangers fans and it still wouldn't be enough to intimidate Pompey, in fact it'd be more likely to intimidate us, play it behind closed doors I say.

Could play the home leg away at .. Elburton or Parkway

are they even going to be called parkway now that they have merged with some other sunday league club last week.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

As a one-off it probably wouldn't make money.

What do you mean "probably"?

You know darn well it would lose money hand over fist.  The seat itself probably cost more than you'd get from the ticket. Never mind any of the other associated costs.

A stupid idea from the very beginning.  No wonder the President thought of it...  

...and nice to know you endorse Webb.  ..and no 'apologies' about it either...

tigertony wrote:

I did skim through a thread about the seats (pisspotty?) and someone had worked out the financial viability and basically showed it was not going to make any money. My thoughts were ''FFS - the financial viability should not even be part of the equation'' The aim is to make the match a bit more intimidating with a bigger crowd and to ensure we have some of our loudest and more forthright fans right behind the dugouts. So, come on JB, get it fixed.

They'll huff and they'll puff and they'll blow the dugouts down !
Brent's Argiggle built of straw and sticks lol