Momento de la verdad

There'll be loads of tubthumping to drum up a crowd for the Pompey game. And quite right too.

There's no doubt that Pompey will sell their allocation and be noisy with it.

There's also little doubt that the game will sell out. That means there'll be something like 15000 in the ground and many more who'd like to go but won't be able to get a ticket.

The Pompey play-off game is quite simply the biggest game we've had at Home Park for years - probably going back to the QPR game - and it'll take more than a tifo, some mobile phone torches and a bit of Bob Marley for us to prevail; we must wring every last drop of advantage out of the home game that we can.

If ever there was a time when a game demanded extra capacity then this is it so get some seating put in the Mayflower, get an extra 4000 of our fans in the ground and get an instant return on the cost for doing so and give an extra 4000 people a chance to stick a match day experience into their memory banks that'll keep 'em coming back for more for years to come.

This will make it more likely that we win, this will make it more likely that we get to Wembley, this will make it more likely that we get promoted. It is an absolutely pivotal moment in the club's timeline and a defining moment, a moment of truth, for Brent's chairmanship.

I'm guessing nearly everybody on this site thinks Brent is pretty much a cash-grabbing, asset-stripping son of a bitch who is only in it for what he screw out of of it with no regard whatsoever for the good of the club. His supporters say he is a fan, he loves the club, his lip quivers when we lose, he lives for the matchday experience and where once there was the heart and soul of a rugby fan there is now a man who bleeds green and is one of us.

Well this is his chance to prove us wrong; to prove his fan boys right; to prove that he has the interests of the club first, foremost, only in his planning.

If ever there was a time to shed the ties that bind to the small-minded, parochial, parsimonious short-termist business model then this clearly and demonstrably is it. No ifs, no buts. This is a time to let the heart rule the head, to put the spreadsheets to one side and just bloody get it done.

The club can't even get planning permission for a bar sorted and you think they're capable of getting 4000 seats installed (with all that entails) within a few weeks?

Crazy idea.

Oddly enough, (given that it's a middle of the night Franny post) the premise is a good one.

But of course in reality, anything forward thinking or in the slightest bit visionary, doesn't happen at Brent's Argyle. If it were going to happen, it should have been at the start of the season when even if the extra capacity wasn't necessarily needed, having Argyle fans on the Mayflower, pitchside, would have given Argyle an extra edge. Getting in the ear of the opposition bench and lino etc.

But sadly while Brent still harbours his mini-stand vision, any outlay on anything that could even remotely be classed as speculative, is a non-starter.

If that means Brent having to spend money then it won't happen.

We're in the money. Create a queue. Just in time..... or not. Rationing is good, creates respect for the ticketmaster. You know it makes sense.
Just don't let's all boil a kettle at the same time.

Why not just whack the tickets up to £30. Same end result for the banker without the hassle.
Isn't that how this supply & demand thing works ?

Lord Melbury wrote:

Why not just whack the tickets up to £30. Same end result for the banker without the hassle.
Isn't that how this supply & demand thing works ?

You might seriously find you have a massive boycott of the game and I'm not joking. Feelings are running high and any further extortion from Quivering lip will tip the balance

I won't be going anyway Harve so couldn't give a stuff either way. Just trying to think how a greedy banker would
Think of all the policing costs

Lord Melbury wrote:

Why not just whack the tickets up to £30. Same end result for the banker without the hassle.
Isn't that how this supply & demand thing works ?

In Brent's world that's known as "price elasticity".

Wont happen but brent my try to push for his mini stand with renewed vigour......

It's not in his interests for it to happen. Once 20,000 people turn up for a 4th tier game the idea that 17,000 capacity will be adequate for CCC football will be exposed for the nonsense that it is.

Parking that for a moment there is no reason it couldn't be done and apologists for Brent, like Rickler (planning permission for temperaray seating? Have a word with yourself), should be ignored.

If there is a desire for it to be done it can be done and it will be done.

So get it done because there'll be no Wembley windfall if we don't get there.

Not on your nelly.

You think a man who won't pay 1500 quid to restore the most historic part of the ground or pay someone to clean the back of the grandstand where some of the accumulated detritus dates back to the 70s would even consider such a pie chart in the sky idea?

How ironic that in the week of the Hillsborough outcome you come up with utter tosh like this.

What are you saying? You don't need planning permission (which Rickler never claimed anyway).

That an extra 4,000 people can just waltz into the ground regardless of issues such as Fire Safety, Policing, Stewarding, segregation, contingency planning and Access (both inside and outside the ground)?

I'm amazed at your ignorance.

the club could never get the stand ready in time even if this idea where feasible. Brent wont pay for it of course so its dead in the water from the start.

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

How ironic that in the week of the Hillsborough outcome you come up with utter tosh like this.

What are you saying? You don't need planning permission (which Rickler never claimed anyway).

That an extra 4,000 people can just waltz into the ground regardless of issues such as Fire Safety, Policing, Stewarding, segregation, contingency planning and Access (both inside and outside the ground)?

I'm amazed at your ignorance.

The club have had temporary seating on the Mayflower stand previously and there were no issues then with any of what you mention at that time though so it could be done again IF the club wanted to.

Interesting point. HHP debacle planning permission limited capacity of HP at 16384 (iirc) without special events planning after Highways commission had their say so that limit probably applies now.

I can't see how that traffic access would apply until HHP was actually built and the job completed. It's just a plan until executed.
An interesting point though nevertheless. I was under the impression that the detail of the twaffik arrangements were still to be agreed with the speculator developer.
It won't happen of course, far too short notice. It should happen next season though as they won't have the excuse of football creditors to pay off after October. Probably one of the main reasons for the appalling home record of recent years. It also lets the directors off the hook too.

If the L2 table stays the same as it is now after the final fixtures next week, are Argyle home or away first.

If they are at Fratton Park for the first Semi-Final and get tanked, say 4-0, i can't see 15,000 plus turning up to HP for the second leg.

If they are at home for the first leg, then 15,000 plus is on the cards and a big night it will be indeed.

No way will Brents Playoff sell out, people wont part with their hard earned cash to waste it on a ragbag squad of losers, or help prop up a discredited owner like Brent, he will be lucky to get ten thousand.

Good intent by the SFD but no way enough time to do it - shame really

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

No way will Brents Playoff sell out, people wont part with their hard earned cash to waste it on a ragbag squad of losers, or help prop up a discredited owner like Brent, he will be lucky to get ten thousand.

Disagree. The hardcore of supporters are getting increasingly disgruntled with Brent's 'leadership' but when it comes to the playoff games, Mr and Mrs Big Games Only will be out in force. Village Green has got it right - if we're home for the first leg it'll be a sellout. If we're away for the first leg and get a tanking ( not very likely imho) you'll be lucky to get 10k.

Either way, we'll still be a league 2 club next season on the pitch and Conference South standard off it.

Yea Man wrote:

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

How ironic that in the week of the Hillsborough outcome you come up with utter tosh like this.

What are you saying? You don't need planning permission (which Rickler never claimed anyway).

That an extra 4,000 people can just waltz into the ground regardless of issues such as Fire Safety, Policing, Stewarding, segregation, contingency planning and Access (both inside and outside the ground)?

I'm amazed at your ignorance.

The club have had temporary seating on the Mayflower stand previously and there were no issues then with any of what you mention at that time though so it could be done again IF the club wanted to.

I've only touched the surface of the necessary requirements.

The club will have one week in which to tick all the boxes and get it built.

Plus the City Council and Brent are at loggerheads so forget it.

It is a non starter.

Homeslice wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

No way will Brents Playoff sell out, people wont part with their hard earned cash to waste it on a ragbag squad of losers, or help prop up a discredited owner like Brent, he will be lucky to get ten thousand.

Disagree. The hardcore of supporters are getting increasingly disgruntled with Brent's 'leadership' but when it comes to the playoff games, Mr and Mrs Big Games Only will be out in force. Village Green has got it right - if we're home for the first leg it'll be a sellout. If we're away for the first leg and get a tanking ( not very likely imho) you'll be lucky to get 10k.

Either way, we'll still be a league 2 club next season on the pitch and Conference South standard off it.

I agree that we will be League 2 club next season and crap off it, but i dont think people will turn out for this game Argyle/Brent have used up any goodwill going and if its on sky, fans will stay away in their droves.

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Homeslice wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

No way will Brents Playoff sell out, people wont part with their hard earned cash to waste it on a ragbag squad of losers, or help prop up a discredited owner like Brent, he will be lucky to get ten thousand.

Disagree. The hardcore of supporters are getting increasingly disgruntled with Brent's 'leadership' but when it comes to the playoff games, Mr and Mrs Big Games Only will be out in force. Village Green has got it right - if we're home for the first leg it'll be a sellout. If we're away for the first leg and get a tanking ( not very likely imho) you'll be lucky to get 10k.

Either way, we'll still be a league 2 club next season on the pitch and Conference South standard off it.

I agree that we will be League 2 club next season and crap off it, but i dont think people will turn out for this game Argyle/Brent have used up any goodwill going and if its on sky, fans will stay away in their droves.

Still think it actually will be a sell out if we are at home first. We dont deserve it but Pompey are a draw at the best of times

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Homeslice wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

No way will Brents Playoff sell out, people wont part with their hard earned cash to waste it on a ragbag squad of losers, or help prop up a discredited owner like Brent, he will be lucky to get ten thousand.

Disagree. The hardcore of supporters are getting increasingly disgruntled with Brent's 'leadership' but when it comes to the playoff games, Mr and Mrs Big Games Only will be out in force. Village Green has got it right - if we're home for the first leg it'll be a sellout. If we're away for the first leg and get a tanking ( not very likely imho) you'll be lucky to get 10k.

Either way, we'll still be a league 2 club next season on the pitch and Conference South standard off it.

I agree that we will be League 2 club next season and crap off it, but i dont think people will turn out for this game Argyle/Brent have used up any goodwill going and if its on sky, fans will stay away in their droves.

All the playoff matches will be shown on sky.
That's how we'll be watching the semi finals anyway.
And we (me + 2 juniors) are season ticket holders
If we get to Wembley, I'll have to go and take the lads, as to miss the experience at their age will live with them forever.