Jezza Corbyn

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

No, she is Denmark's Prime Minister Helle Thorning Schmidt.

Coincidentally also Daughter-in-law of the another failed Labour leader, Kinnock who was so principled in Socialism that he got himself & his family onto the EU gravy train & they all became multi-millionaires.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

No, she is Denmark's Prime Minister Helle Thorning Schmidt.

Corbyn out - Helle Thorning Schmidt in

The anthem thing is a load of old shit, we would mock the North Koreans if they had similar stories in the Pyongyang Evening Herald.

He who claps longest, etc.

PM questions tame. Needed more follow up questions to show how little Cameron really knows/cares about his people.

It turns out that Jeremy Corbyn forgot to sing the National Anthem because his thoughts were miles away thinking of his parents.

This is according to his Shadow Chancellor.

Yeah, and the cheque's in the post.

Angry wrote:

Sir John Hawkins wrote:

Not the old Michael Foot donkey jacket routine ?!  
I think that one's been done to oblivion.

He was another dreamer who appealed to dreamers who didnt live in reality.

No he wasn't. His generation fought for and achieved workers' rights and the NHS etc.He was elected by Devonport in 1945. Prior to Michael Foot and the other 'dreamers', hard working people and their families were used and abused by the Tories and the privileged few, denied healthcare, often dying in agony because they couldn't afford medical intervention.
Those who continue to be conned into thinking they're alright now, would do well to revisit the history books.Piece by piece the Bullingdon boys will unravel a fair and just society.
Who's the dreamer ?

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Some commentators reckon Corbyn will not be the Labour leader in 18 months or so ?.

I was watching QT last night and the Labour number two apologised for things he said years ago. On Radio5live later, Ian Paisley said that he had heard that the Labour number two was leaned on and forced by senior Labour peers to make said apologies.

VillageGreen wrote:

I was watching QT last night and the Labour number two apologised for things he said years ago. On Radio5live later, Ian Paisley said that he had heard that the Labour number two was leaned on and forced by senior Labour peers to make said apologies.

Apologise all he likes, people won't forget. Tbh it's worse apologising now. The Cnut should have been apologising years ago because he'd realised some of the Cunty things he'd said were outrageous. Not because he's now in the limelight.

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Greek anti austerity party (and rabid left wingers) re elected despite predictions the Greek Tories would give them a seeing to.

Corbyn wants to nationalise some public utilities and Osborne wants China to build and own a nuclear power station in Essex. And yet, Corbyn is supposed to be the threat to national security ?  
You couldn't make it up. The things people believe.

Oh, and now we are being treated to the newspeak that the Fukushima nuclear disaster in Japan was less dangerous to public health than the radiation people received by catching a scheduled flight out of the area. Is there any such thing as a fact on this planet any more that lasts for more than a couple of years ?
#bankruptphilosophy

The subsidies given to some sources of energy, compared to the complete decimation of subsidy given to renewables, is fookin bizarre as fook. Well, until you look at who is profiting from what.

It does make you wonder... Just consider how much investment there has been into R&D for fossil and nuclear fuels over the years and then compare to renewables.

If the argument goes "we need nuclear/whatever because renewables can never..." then there's your answer as to why.

Never believe anybody who tells you there is no alternative.

Nope I'm sure there is no alternative.......spoken like a robot, learnt after using pasoti for several years. Anyway all these subsidies to green energy were delivered by putting "green taxes" on all sorts of fuel, oil, petrol, diesel, electricity and gas. I wasn't aware that the "green taxes" had been taken away? Shorely not? On the BBC News, now sponsored by the people's republic, they were saying how this lessens the risk to British taxpayers. How the feck does that work? Chinese plans go tits up and we step in with the two bill to cover them, all goes to plan and china takes the profit the same as the frogs do with the leccy. Too may shady deals done in government corridoors.

Ooopppssss - I bet Jezza ''Trident'' Corbyn didn't see that one coming. ''Long live Trident (or replacement)''

I see that Labour delegates have decided on eight issues that they want debated at this weeks conference.

Unbelievably they want a debate on the BBC licence fee yet not debate the Defence of the UK and Trident in particular.

The fact it might produce a conflict between lost jobs for union workers and Corbyn's ideology is coincidental of course.

What a farce of a Party they are.

Fancy a party doing what the members want, unbelievable.

That's not how it works though. Labour need to convince the rest of the country that their policies will work.

Kicking the Defence debate into the long grass is not very promising.

When 24% of the electorate delivers 51% of the seats and that's democracy working fine but when a similar democratic process delivers a result you don't like it's a farce.

Have I got that right?

Nope!

The farce refers to Corbyn bottling it. He doesn't want to upset the unions.

Answer me this then. What's more important to debate, the BBC licence fee or the Defence of the Realm?

According to Labour it's the former. Which is really scarey.

The BBC licence fee at this moment in time. The war refugee thing is top priority, and then I really believe the BBC is as important as some are saying. This government are trying to noble it..... just about the most respected media organisation in the world. And that is happening NOW, not 5 years time.

The defence of the realm is a given, despite what Aussie Murdoch says, whichever party is in power, and always has been. It's the first responsibility of any Westminster cabal. How that is effected best is another matter. The ground zero nuclear option has not been debated for 30 years. About bleddy time it was. The world has changed big time. It is on the agenda, and it is Corbyn who has put it there at last. About time too. Almost certainly a bridge too far at the moment as the party is having to assess it's way forward. As leader he has a duty to find early consensus on a way forward. There's years before an election build up, so people need to dust off their dodgy logic they haven't used for a while, and prepare for the debate.  Believe me, the debate will be had, and will be well reported and contested.
That's good for democracy. Corbyn has assured his MPs they can have a free vote on red line issues like this should any concrete change in major policy issues come from debate. Of course, you and many like you will be afforded the chance to vote as well, so calm down dear. That's the sort of democratic guy he is, unlike all the other three line whip despots we've been used to for decade upon decade from all sides of the house.
Three quarters of the people who would support "Trident" do so as a given mantra, and haven't a clue as to the other options out there to effect our defence.

So now the other self proclaimed knight has joined in.

Trying to get my head around your reasoning that the BBC licence is more etc, etc!

Are you serious?

The BBC foreign service programmes are vital to those that listen in persecuted countries ,also a lifeline to those who have no free radio.....only state controlled broadcasting.

Some of us can remember that during WW2 it was a lifeline for agents to receive coded messages of how to proceed in their fight against the nazis.

Cameroon wants to gag the BBC from saying things that the right wing establishment would prefer us to be ignorant about.....just like the right wing press have been doing for generations.....and at this time .....with Corbyn being made to look like the devil incarnate......ok he's got some things wrong but he does say at times things that make sense.......and dare I say as well that Nigel Farage says a lot that I think is sound....especially about being in the EU.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

When 24% of the electorate delivers 51% of the seats and that's democracy working fine but when a similar democratic process delivers a result you don't like it's a farce.

Have I got that right?

Everyone has the right to vote,ndont moan when result doesn't go your way. Those that don't vote get the government they deserve (sic)

I didn't proclaim it Rollo. Good Queen Bess did it for riches rendered. Sweet as. Couldn't refuse could I.
Now I have the appropriated estate in my mits, I might just go back to the common touch. That's the sorta guy I am. Two corvettes Hawkins they call me. Almost a man for all seasons, but that's already been done.

Well if I ever need a mirror I'll know who to go to. You're mansion must be full of 'em!