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PostSubject: Re: Club starts interviews for vacant manager role   Club starts interviews for vacant manager role - Page 9 EmptyTue 09 Jun 2015, 17:57

Skynet;

"I heard a rumour the board are split between 2"


So.. split between Adams or Jones? That's my guess.

Personally I'd like to see Adams get the nod.
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PostSubject: Re: Club starts interviews for vacant manager role   Club starts interviews for vacant manager role - Page 9 EmptyTue 09 Jun 2015, 18:07

Adams versus the superfans.

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Get a friggin helipad at Central Park - connect to Exterr & Nequay!!

I tell the focp at their meeting tonight, Bandwagon suggested a helipad in Central Park.

Meeting is at 1930 hrs in the bowling green club house in Central Park. All well but not pigs. :pighug:

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PostSubject: Re: Club starts interviews for vacant manager role   Club starts interviews for vacant manager role - Page 9 EmptyTue 09 Jun 2015, 19:49

According to the herald the club had over 100 applications for the vacancy..... i hate to see how bad the other 94 were if the 6 being linked are in the running
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PostSubject: Re: Club starts interviews for vacant manager role   Club starts interviews for vacant manager role - Page 9 EmptyTue 09 Jun 2015, 19:51

Serious question Angry, who's in the running for the job?
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PostSubject: Re: Club starts interviews for vacant manager role   Club starts interviews for vacant manager role - Page 9 EmptyTue 09 Jun 2015, 19:58

Foxy wrote:
Serious question Angry, who's in the running for the job?

going by serious media reports and strong speculation.

Lomas
Adams
Jones
Coughlan
some other geezer
and probably Wotton.
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PostSubject: Re: Club starts interviews for vacant manager role   Club starts interviews for vacant manager role - Page 9 EmptyTue 09 Jun 2015, 20:06

Angry wrote:
Foxy wrote:
Serious question Angry, who's in the running for the job?

going by serious media reports and strong speculation.

Lomas
Adams
Jones
Coughlan
some other geezer
and probably Wotton.

Would expect a decision by the end of the week then?
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PostSubject: Re: Club starts interviews for vacant manager role   Club starts interviews for vacant manager role - Page 9 EmptyTue 09 Jun 2015, 20:09

The sussex Wise man definetly does not want Dezza Adams,but loves up and coming Jesus Jones ? erm ..... GO DEZZA!!!!
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Foxy wrote:
Angry wrote:
Foxy wrote:
Serious question Angry, who's in the running for the job?

going by serious media reports and strong speculation.

Lomas
Adams
Jones
Coughlan
some other geezer
and probably Wotton.

Would expect a decision by the end of the week then?

any day now
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The sussex Wise man definetly does not want Dezza Adams,but loves up and coming Jesus Jones ? erm ..... GO DEZZA!!!!

X Isle changes his mind daily. Apparently we should have got it over and done with a week ago and just hired Cocko who was clearly the man for the job. Then he read a bit about McDermott and decided he was probably better. Now he's decided Jones is the man because England U21s let him put the cones out.

The fact is, if you want a proven winner who is most likely to get Argyle promoted next season - I can't see much past Derek Adams as having the best CV for the job. Norwich hired a candidate with similar experience (Hamilton Academicals instead of Ross County) and they have not so far regretted it one bit.
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PostSubject: Re: Club starts interviews for vacant manager role   Club starts interviews for vacant manager role - Page 9 EmptyTue 09 Jun 2015, 20:35

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They of course have Carl Fletcher coaching there younger players (another Bournemouth player)....and doing it well by the results that they have achieved.

Although his management time at Argyle was rather beyond his experience at the time....it must of forged some resolve for the future.

Desperation really by Brent giving him the full time job so soon....a case of throwing him to the lions....and for far too long for everyones good......we did rubbish him week by week, as he failed to dig Argyle out of the pit that administration had buried us in.....the man was likeable...his inexperience wasn't......and I can still remember him being interviewed about the match analysis that day....and finishing off by mentioning that he had just been sacked.....how can any club put a sacked manager in that position....unless he insisted on doing it.

Better times have arrived for him and as a person I have respect for him having come through that cauldron of a learning curve.

The Peter Reid to Carl Fletcher transition was overseen by Peter Ridsdale. Sheridan was James Brent's first appointment.

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The fact is, if you want a proven winner who is most likely to get Argyle promoted next season - I can't see much past Derek Adams as having the best CV for the job. Norwich hired a candidate with similar experience (Hamilton Academicals instead of Ross County) and they have not so far regretted it one bit.

Agreed - but I'm convinced it'll be Jones.. sending Pasoti into orgasm Pig


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PostSubject: Re: Club starts interviews for vacant manager role   Club starts interviews for vacant manager role - Page 9 EmptyTue 09 Jun 2015, 20:45

ejh wrote:
sufferedsince 68 wrote:
The sussex Wise man definetly does not want Dezza Adams,but loves up and coming Jesus Jones ? erm ..... GO DEZZA!!!!

X Isle changes his mind daily. Apparently we should have got it over and done with a week ago and just hired Cocko who was clearly the man for the job. Then he read a bit about McDermott and decided he was probably better. Now he's decided Jones is the man because England U21s let him put the cones out.

The fact is, if you want a proven winner who is most likely to get Argyle promoted next season - I can't see much past Derek Adams as having the best CV for the job. Norwich hired a candidate with similar experience (Hamilton Academicals instead of Ross County) and they have not so far regretted it one bit.

Cant really compare the two they are both very different. Alex Neil actually achieved more than adams in less time. Probably doesnt have a list as longs as your arm with countless disciplinary.
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PostSubject: Re: Club starts interviews for vacant manager role   Club starts interviews for vacant manager role - Page 9 EmptyTue 09 Jun 2015, 20:55

Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
sufferedsince 68 wrote:
The sussex Wise man definetly does not want Dezza Adams,but loves up and coming Jesus Jones ? erm ..... GO DEZZA!!!!

X Isle changes his mind daily. Apparently we should have got it over and done with a week ago and just hired Cocko who was clearly the man for the job. Then he read a bit about McDermott and decided he was probably better. Now he's decided Jones is the man because England U21s let him put the cones out.

The fact is, if you want a proven winner who is most likely to get Argyle promoted next season - I can't see much past Derek Adams as having the best CV for the job. Norwich hired a candidate with similar experience (Hamilton Academicals instead of Ross County) and they have not so far regretted it one bit.

Cant really compare the two they are both very different. Alex Neil actually achieved more than adams in less time. Probably doesnt have a list as longs as your arm with countless disciplinary.

The main point is getting small clubs the size of Hereford United up to the Scottish Prem and staying there is no small feat. Adams has done that and it can't be taken away from him.

In terms of getting Argyle back to the Championship, how on earth does Nathan Jones demonstrate he has better credentials for that assignment than Adams? It just isn't a contest - one candidate has experience and we can expect a strong start out of, the other is just a complete unknown versed in his FA taught coaching drills.

In the real world, success and winning experience trumps coaching badges and classroom taught tactics. Or at least, it really ought to.
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PostSubject: Re: Club starts interviews for vacant manager role   Club starts interviews for vacant manager role - Page 9 EmptyTue 09 Jun 2015, 21:05

ejh wrote:
Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
sufferedsince 68 wrote:
The sussex Wise man definetly does not want Dezza Adams,but loves up and coming Jesus Jones ? erm ..... GO DEZZA!!!!

X Isle changes his mind daily. Apparently we should have got it over and done with a week ago and just hired Cocko who was clearly the man for the job. Then he read a bit about McDermott and decided he was probably better. Now he's decided Jones is the man because England U21s let him put the cones out.

The fact is, if you want a proven winner who is most likely to get Argyle promoted next season - I can't see much past Derek Adams as having the best CV for the job. Norwich hired a candidate with similar experience (Hamilton Academicals instead of Ross County) and they have not so far regretted it one bit.

Cant really compare the two they are both very different. Alex Neil actually achieved more than adams in less time. Probably doesnt have a list as longs as your arm with countless disciplinary.

The main point is getting small clubs the size of Hereford United up to the Scottish Prem and staying there is no small feat. Adams has done that and it can't be taken away from him.

In terms of getting Argyle back to the Championship, how on earth does Nathan Jones demonstrate he has better credentials for that assignment than Adams? It just isn't a contest - one candidate has experience and we can expect a strong start out of, the other is just a complete unknown who knows his FA coaching drills.

In the real world, success and winning experience trumps coaching badges and classroom taught tactics.

Coaching in the championship and league 1 is probably set you in better stead to managing in scottish equivalent where the standard is poor
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PostSubject: Re: Club starts interviews for vacant manager role   Club starts interviews for vacant manager role - Page 9 EmptyTue 09 Jun 2015, 21:12

I reckon it could be Adams who gets the nod. He has the experience of winning promotion and that is what counts at the end of the day.

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Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
sufferedsince 68 wrote:
The sussex Wise man definetly does not want Dezza Adams,but loves up and coming Jesus Jones ? erm ..... GO DEZZA!!!!

X Isle changes his mind daily. Apparently we should have got it over and done with a week ago and just hired Cocko who was clearly the man for the job. Then he read a bit about McDermott and decided he was probably better. Now he's decided Jones is the man because England U21s let him put the cones out.

The fact is, if you want a proven winner who is most likely to get Argyle promoted next season - I can't see much past Derek Adams as having the best CV for the job. Norwich hired a candidate with similar experience (Hamilton Academicals instead of Ross County) and they have not so far regretted it one bit.

Cant really compare the two they are both very different. Alex Neil actually achieved more than adams in less time. Probably doesnt have a list as longs as your arm with countless disciplinary.

The main point is getting small clubs the size of Hereford United up to the Scottish Prem and staying there is no small feat. Adams has done that and it can't be taken away from him.

In terms of getting Argyle back to the Championship, how on earth does Nathan Jones demonstrate he has better credentials for that assignment than Adams? It just isn't a contest - one candidate has experience and we can expect a strong start out of, the other is just a complete unknown who knows his FA coaching drills.

In the real world, success and winning experience trumps coaching badges and classroom taught tactics.

Coaching in the championship and league 1 is probably set you in better stead to managing in scottish equivalent where the standard is poor

Adams took a squad which were Scottish Div 2 standard, and through his management made them SPL standard.

The board hopefully will have heard all about how he achieved that, and will have asked him how he will go about influencing those sorts of positive transitions as manager here.

They could of course ask Jones the same question - it will depend on whether they are likely to be impressed by a robotic response about systems, tactics, good nutrition and other FA taught modules. Rather than listen to the views of a realist that doesn't tread on eggshells and knows exactly what it takes to win.
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ejh wrote:
Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
sufferedsince 68 wrote:
The sussex Wise man definetly does not want Dezza Adams,but loves up and coming Jesus Jones ? erm ..... GO DEZZA!!!!

X Isle changes his mind daily. Apparently we should have got it over and done with a week ago and just hired Cocko who was clearly the man for the job. Then he read a bit about McDermott and decided he was probably better. Now he's decided Jones is the man because England U21s let him put the cones out.

The fact is, if you want a proven winner who is most likely to get Argyle promoted next season - I can't see much past Derek Adams as having the best CV for the job. Norwich hired a candidate with similar experience (Hamilton Academicals instead of Ross County) and they have not so far regretted it one bit.

Cant really compare the two they are both very different. Alex Neil actually achieved more than adams in less time. Probably doesnt have a list as longs as your arm with countless disciplinary.

The main point is getting small clubs the size of Hereford United up to the Scottish Prem and staying there is no small feat. Adams has done that and it can't be taken away from him.

In terms of getting Argyle back to the Championship, how on earth does Nathan Jones demonstrate he has better credentials for that assignment than Adams? It just isn't a contest - one candidate has experience and we can expect a strong start out of, the other is just a complete unknown who knows his FA coaching drills.

In the real world, success and winning experience trumps coaching badges and classroom taught tactics.

Coaching in the championship and league 1 is probably set you in better stead to managing in scottish equivalent where the standard is poor

Adams took a squad which were Scottish Div 2 standard, and through his management made them SPL standard.

The board hopefully will have heard all about how he achieved that, and will have asked him how he will go about influencing those sorts of positive transitions as manager here.

They could of course ask Jones the same question - it will depend on whether they are likely to be impressed by a robotic response about systems, tactics, good nutrition and other FA taught modules. Rather than listen to the views of a realist that doesn't tread on eggshells and knows exactly what it takes to win.

those leagues are bog standard and have as many part time clubs than pros. Carl Fletcher could have matched his stats with ross county.
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Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
sufferedsince 68 wrote:
The sussex Wise man definetly does not want Dezza Adams,but loves up and coming Jesus Jones ? erm ..... GO DEZZA!!!!

X Isle changes his mind daily. Apparently we should have got it over and done with a week ago and just hired Cocko who was clearly the man for the job. Then he read a bit about McDermott and decided he was probably better. Now he's decided Jones is the man because England U21s let him put the cones out.

The fact is, if you want a proven winner who is most likely to get Argyle promoted next season - I can't see much past Derek Adams as having the best CV for the job. Norwich hired a candidate with similar experience (Hamilton Academicals instead of Ross County) and they have not so far regretted it one bit.

Cant really compare the two they are both very different. Alex Neil actually achieved more than adams in less time. Probably doesnt have a list as longs as your arm with countless disciplinary.

The main point is getting small clubs the size of Hereford United up to the Scottish Prem and staying there is no small feat. Adams has done that and it can't be taken away from him.

In terms of getting Argyle back to the Championship, how on earth does Nathan Jones demonstrate he has better credentials for that assignment than Adams? It just isn't a contest - one candidate has experience and we can expect a strong start out of, the other is just a complete unknown who knows his FA coaching drills.

In the real world, success and winning experience trumps coaching badges and classroom taught tactics.

Coaching in the championship and league 1 is probably set you in better stead to managing in scottish equivalent where the standard is poor

Adams took a squad which were Scottish Div 2 standard, and through his management made them SPL standard.

The board hopefully will have heard all about how he achieved that, and will have asked him how he will go about influencing those sorts of positive transitions as manager here.

They could of course ask Jones the same question - it will depend on whether they are likely to be impressed by a robotic response about systems, tactics, good nutrition and other FA taught modules. Rather than listen to the views of a realist that doesn't tread on eggshells and knows exactly what it takes to win.

those leagues are bog standard and have as many part time clubs than pros. Carl Fletcher could have matched his stats with ross county.


That is your opinion and not fact. Rangers couldn't get out of the Scottish Championship this season for starters, which shows how 'easy' it is. Also whilst the standard is poor, the club he won with are small fry - Ross County have about a third of Argyle's capacity. And yet he had that club playing Celtic, Hibernian, Aberdeen and Dundee.

To say Fletcher would have got two promotions in Scotland at a club with average attendances of under 3,000 is pretty patronising. I am guessing you don't watch a lot of Scottish football or know a great deal about those leagues? Just because the resources are smaller, it doesn't make it any less competitive or hard to succeed. All the harder I would have thought, when you don't have two pennies in the transfer warchest to scratch your arse with - which incidentally should prepare him well for a stint at Argyle.
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ejh wrote:
Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
sufferedsince 68 wrote:
The sussex Wise man definetly does not want Dezza Adams,but loves up and coming Jesus Jones ? erm ..... GO DEZZA!!!!

X Isle changes his mind daily. Apparently we should have got it over and done with a week ago and just hired Cocko who was clearly the man for the job. Then he read a bit about McDermott and decided he was probably better. Now he's decided Jones is the man because England U21s let him put the cones out.

The fact is, if you want a proven winner who is most likely to get Argyle promoted next season - I can't see much past Derek Adams as having the best CV for the job. Norwich hired a candidate with similar experience (Hamilton Academicals instead of Ross County) and they have not so far regretted it one bit.

Cant really compare the two they are both very different. Alex Neil actually achieved more than adams in less time. Probably doesnt have a list as longs as your arm with countless disciplinary.

The main point is getting small clubs the size of Hereford United up to the Scottish Prem and staying there is no small feat. Adams has done that and it can't be taken away from him.

In terms of getting Argyle back to the Championship, how on earth does Nathan Jones demonstrate he has better credentials for that assignment than Adams? It just isn't a contest - one candidate has experience and we can expect a strong start out of, the other is just a complete unknown who knows his FA coaching drills.

In the real world, success and winning experience trumps coaching badges and classroom taught tactics.

Coaching in the championship and league 1 is probably set you in better stead to managing in scottish equivalent where the standard is poor

Adams took a squad which were Scottish Div 2 standard, and through his management made them SPL standard.

The board hopefully will have heard all about how he achieved that, and will have asked him how he will go about influencing those sorts of positive transitions as manager here.

They could of course ask Jones the same question - it will depend on whether they are likely to be impressed by a robotic response about systems, tactics, good nutrition and other FA taught modules. Rather than listen to the views of a realist that doesn't tread on eggshells and knows exactly what it takes to win.

those leagues are bog standard and have as many part time clubs than pros. Carl Fletcher could have matched his stats with ross county.


That is your opinion and not fact. Rangers couldn't get out of the Scottish Championship this season for starters, which shows how 'easy' it is. Also whilst the standard is poor, the club he won with are small fry - Ross County have about a third of Argyle's capacity. And yet he had that club playing Celtic, Hibernian, Aberdeen and Dundee.

To say Fletcher would have got two promotions in Scotland at a club with average attendances of under 3,000 is pretty patronising. I am guessing you don't watch a lot of Scottish football or know a great deal about those leagues? Just because the resources are smaller, it doesn't make it any less competitive or hard to succeed. All the harder I would have thought, when you don't have two pennies in the transfer warchest to scratch your arse with - which incidentally should prepare him well for a stint at Argyle.

And its your opinion not fact that he is any good because he won a few games in a shite league. Rangers didnt go up because Hearts won it a big scottish club and motherwell a club in the spl prevented them. A very poor argument to use them as it is with the petulant outbursts to stress your opionion
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PostSubject: Re: Club starts interviews for vacant manager role   Club starts interviews for vacant manager role - Page 9 EmptyTue 09 Jun 2015, 21:56

If the board is split between 2 candidates as sky bloke says (hardly a scoop there), should it not be up to Brent to make the final decision?

Could be a while then.

If Adams is one of them, he'd be my choice. Real success on a small budget.

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The sussex Wise man definetly does not want Dezza Adams,but loves up and coming Jesus Jones ? erm ..... GO DEZZA!!!!

X Isle changes his mind daily. Apparently we should have got it over and done with a week ago and just hired Cocko who was clearly the man for the job. Then he read a bit about McDermott and decided he was probably better. Now he's decided Jones is the man because England U21s let him put the cones out.

The fact is, if you want a proven winner who is most likely to get Argyle promoted next season - I can't see much past Derek Adams as having the best CV for the job. Norwich hired a candidate with similar experience (Hamilton Academicals instead of Ross County) and they have not so far regretted it one bit.

Looking at the alleged list of candidates ejh i agree with you, the only one with a prayer of doing anything is the guy with a succesful CV Dezza Adams, the rest look like total no hopers to me.
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Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
Angry wrote:
ejh wrote:
sufferedsince 68 wrote:
The sussex Wise man definetly does not want Dezza Adams,but loves up and coming Jesus Jones ? erm ..... GO DEZZA!!!!

X Isle changes his mind daily. Apparently we should have got it over and done with a week ago and just hired Cocko who was clearly the man for the job. Then he read a bit about McDermott and decided he was probably better. Now he's decided Jones is the man because England U21s let him put the cones out.

The fact is, if you want a proven winner who is most likely to get Argyle promoted next season - I can't see much past Derek Adams as having the best CV for the job. Norwich hired a candidate with similar experience (Hamilton Academicals instead of Ross County) and they have not so far regretted it one bit.

Cant really compare the two they are both very different. Alex Neil actually achieved more than adams in less time. Probably doesnt have a list as longs as your arm with countless disciplinary.

The main point is getting small clubs the size of Hereford United up to the Scottish Prem and staying there is no small feat. Adams has done that and it can't be taken away from him.

In terms of getting Argyle back to the Championship, how on earth does Nathan Jones demonstrate he has better credentials for that assignment than Adams? It just isn't a contest - one candidate has experience and we can expect a strong start out of, the other is just a complete unknown who knows his FA coaching drills.

In the real world, success and winning experience trumps coaching badges and classroom taught tactics.

Coaching in the championship and league 1 is probably set you in better stead to managing in scottish equivalent where the standard is poor

Adams took a squad which were Scottish Div 2 standard, and through his management made them SPL standard.

The board hopefully will have heard all about how he achieved that, and will have asked him how he will go about influencing those sorts of positive transitions as manager here.

They could of course ask Jones the same question - it will depend on whether they are likely to be impressed by a robotic response about systems, tactics, good nutrition and other FA taught modules. Rather than listen to the views of a realist that doesn't tread on eggshells and knows exactly what it takes to win.

those leagues are bog standard and have as many part time clubs than pros. Carl Fletcher could have matched his stats with ross county.


That is your opinion and not fact. Rangers couldn't get out of the Scottish Championship this season for starters, which shows how 'easy' it is. Also whilst the standard is poor, the club he won with are small fry - Ross County have about a third of Argyle's capacity. And yet he had that club playing Celtic, Hibernian, Aberdeen and Dundee.

To say Fletcher would have got two promotions in Scotland at a club with average attendances of under 3,000 is pretty patronising. I am guessing you don't watch a lot of Scottish football or know a great deal about those leagues? Just because the resources are smaller, it doesn't make it any less competitive or hard to succeed. All the harder I would have thought, when you don't have two pennies in the transfer warchest to scratch your arse with - which incidentally should prepare him well for a stint at Argyle.

And its your opinion not fact that he is any good because he won a few games in a shite league. Rangers didnt go up because Hearts won it a big scottish club and motherwell a club in the spl prevented them. A very poor argument to use them as it is with the petulant outbursts to stress your opionion

So Rangers didn't go up because the standard was too good with tough clubs like Motherwell and Hearts in the way. But Adams took Ross County up because the standard was piss easy and anyone could do it.

Right, thanks for clarifying that.
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The sussex Wise man definetly does not want Dezza Adams,but loves up and coming Jesus Jones ? erm ..... GO DEZZA!!!!

X Isle changes his mind daily. Apparently we should have got it over and done with a week ago and just hired Cocko who was clearly the man for the job. Then he read a bit about McDermott and decided he was probably better. Now he's decided Jones is the man because England U21s let him put the cones out.

The fact is, if you want a proven winner who is most likely to get Argyle promoted next season - I can't see much past Derek Adams as having the best CV for the job. Norwich hired a candidate with similar experience (Hamilton Academicals instead of Ross County) and they have not so far regretted it one bit.

Looking at the alleged list of candidates ejh i agree with you, the only one with a prayer of doing anything is the guy with a succesful CV Dezza Adams, the rest look like total no hopers to me.

Quite like the look of him, reminds me a bit of Gary Kemp as Ronnie Kray in that film about the twins. Could just imagine him skewering someone's hand to a snooker table if he was displeased.
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sufferedsince 68 wrote:
The sussex Wise man definetly does not want Dezza Adams,but loves up and coming Jesus Jones ? erm ..... GO DEZZA!!!!

X Isle changes his mind daily. Apparently we should have got it over and done with a week ago and just hired Cocko who was clearly the man for the job. Then he read a bit about McDermott and decided he was probably better. Now he's decided Jones is the man because England U21s let him put the cones out.

The fact is, if you want a proven winner who is most likely to get Argyle promoted next season - I can't see much past Derek Adams as having the best CV for the job. Norwich hired a candidate with similar experience (Hamilton Academicals instead of Ross County) and they have not so far regretted it one bit.

Cant really compare the two they are both very different. Alex Neil actually achieved more than adams in less time. Probably doesnt have a list as longs as your arm with countless disciplinary.

The main point is getting small clubs the size of Hereford United up to the Scottish Prem and staying there is no small feat. Adams has done that and it can't be taken away from him.

In terms of getting Argyle back to the Championship, how on earth does Nathan Jones demonstrate he has better credentials for that assignment than Adams? It just isn't a contest - one candidate has experience and we can expect a strong start out of, the other is just a complete unknown who knows his FA coaching drills.

In the real world, success and winning experience trumps coaching badges and classroom taught tactics.

Coaching in the championship and league 1 is probably set you in better stead to managing in scottish equivalent where the standard is poor

Adams took a squad which were Scottish Div 2 standard, and through his management made them SPL standard.

The board hopefully will have heard all about how he achieved that, and will have asked him how he will go about influencing those sorts of positive transitions as manager here.

They could of course ask Jones the same question - it will depend on whether they are likely to be impressed by a robotic response about systems, tactics, good nutrition and other FA taught modules. Rather than listen to the views of a realist that doesn't tread on eggshells and knows exactly what it takes to win.

those leagues are bog standard and have as many part time clubs than pros. Carl Fletcher could have matched his stats with ross county.


That is your opinion and not fact. Rangers couldn't get out of the Scottish Championship this season for starters, which shows how 'easy' it is. Also whilst the standard is poor, the club he won with are small fry - Ross County have about a third of Argyle's capacity. And yet he had that club playing Celtic, Hibernian, Aberdeen and Dundee.

To say Fletcher would have got two promotions in Scotland at a club with average attendances of under 3,000 is pretty patronising. I am guessing you don't watch a lot of Scottish football or know a great deal about those leagues? Just because the resources are smaller, it doesn't make it any less competitive or hard to succeed. All the harder I would have thought, when you don't have two pennies in the transfer warchest to scratch your arse with - which incidentally should prepare him well for a stint at Argyle.

And its your opinion not fact that he is any good because he won a few games in a shite league. Rangers didnt go up because Hearts won it a big scottish club and motherwell a club in the spl prevented them. A very poor argument to use them as it is with the petulant outbursts to stress your opionion

So Rangers didn't go up because the standard was too good with tough clubs like Motherwell and Hearts in the way. But Adams took Ross County up because the standard was piss easy and anyone could do it.

Right, thanks for clarifying that.

If Adams was so good at ross county as you say he would have been hot demand for his services with other clubs wouldn't he.. Except he has been unemployed for almost ayear with no offers. Must speak volumes for his career ambitions he is willing to come here for peanuts because no one else would give him the time of day.

If you think the SFL is of a good standard then you are silly as you were when you claimed Luke Young was destined for great things Laughing Laughing
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