Club starts interviews for vacant manager role

Rather have jones then Adams

FFS !! Don't look too far ahead.

Angry wrote:

If Adams was so good at ross county as you say he would have been hot demand for his services with other clubs wouldn't he.. Except he has been unemployed for almost ayear with no offers. Must speak volumes for his career ambitions he is willing to come here for peanuts because no one else would give him the time of day.

If you think the SFL is of a good standard then you are silly as you were when you claimed Luke Young was destined for great things  

Your words about Luke Young there, not mine, but is that a typical deflection tactic to change the subject?

Please tell me why the standard of getting from the second tier in Scotland is understandably hard for Rangers,  but a piss easy feat for a team like Ross County with attendances of a few thousand and any old manager in charge?

You seem to be confusing standard of football with easiness in managing it. Just because the standard is poor, it doesn't make winning games against bigger clubs and better opposition easy. Scotland is as competitive as the lower leagues of England. If a manager can take a side up two divisions and maintain that standard in the SPL, then the chances are that manager knows what he's doing - tactics, man management, systems, training, fitness, player signings.

If you think Fletcher could do what Adams did, then by all means he should have a go at a club like Queens Park and see if he can prove himself. Pretty sure he would end up mid table at best thought, as he clearly was no genius at getting good signings in (signing a fireman at one point) and his possession football got us nowhere against other managers who clearly knew more about the management business than him.

ejh wrote:

Angry wrote:

If Adams was so good at ross county as you say he would have been hot demand for his services with other clubs wouldn't he.. Except he has been unemployed for almost ayear with no offers. Must speak volumes for his career ambitions he is willing to come here for peanuts because no one else would give him the time of day.

If you think the SFL is of a good standard then you are silly as you were when you claimed Luke Young was destined for great things  

Your words about Luke Young there, not mine, but is that a typical deflection tactic to change the subject?

Please tell me why the standard of getting from the second tier in Scotland is understandably hard for Rangers,  but a piss easy feat for a team like Ross County with attendances of a few thousand and any old manager in charge?

You seem to be confusing standard of football with easiness in managing it. Just because the standard is poor, it doesn't make winning games against bigger clubs and better opposition easy. Scotland is as competitive as the lower leagues of England. If a manager can take a side up two divisions and maintain that standard in the SPL, then the chances are that manager knows what he's doing - tactics, man management, systems, training, fitness, player signings.

If you think Fletcher could do what Adams did, then by all means he should have a go at a club like Queens Park and see if he can prove himself. Pretty sure he would end up mid table at best thought, as he clearly was no genius at getting good signings in (signing a fireman at one point) and his possession football got us nowhere against other managers who clearly knew more about the management business than him.

they are yours words over young. Scottish football is a shit standard and yes carl fletcher could achieve what that daddies boy derek adams achieved at ross county absolutely he could. Christ even bobby williamson has a decent record in scottish football. I go so far as to say dane could get a team promoted in those leagues.

If Derek adams does get the job i would give him less than a year before he is sacked for either poor results or his gobshite demeanour. I would rather give Nathan Jones the job at least he would have experience working with pro footballers and not below average ones that make up the scottish football leagues.

Do you have a routine before posting on here to live up to your username Angry such as punching yourself in the face, slaughtering live animals or looking at photo's of long lost loves? It is clearly not correct that anyone could have done what Adams did in Scottish football and as for referencing Dane....

As EJH says how do you explain the fact that both Hibs and Rangers will be playing league one football again?

If the standard is so shite why had no one else in Ross County's history achieved the feat?

Ross County are a Highland side (note used to dealing with teams outside the geographical hot spots) with a population of 5,000 people! Adams had them nearly qualifying for Europe beating Celtic on the way.

Whether he is the best person for the job is a different question but he sure is qualified to manage in this dog shit of a division.

Dick Trickle wrote:

Do you have a routine before posting on here to live up to your username Angry such as punching yourself in the face, slaughtering live animals or looking at photo's of long lost loves? It is clearly not correct that anyone could have done what Adams did in Scottish football and as for referencing Dane....

As EJH says how do you explain the fact that both Hibs and Rangers will be playing league one football again?

If the standard is so shite why had no one else in Ross County's history achieved the feat?

Ross County are a Highland side (note used to dealing with teams outside the geographical hot spots) with a population of 5,000 people! Adams had them nearly qualifying for Europe beating Celtic on the way.

Whether he is the best person for the job is a different question but he sure is qualified to manage in this dog shit of a division.

Angry's argument is full of contradictions.

- Scottish League One is too competitive/hard to get out of for Rangers/Hibernian, but apparently an absolute doddle for small sides like Ross County.
- If Derek Adams was so good he would have been picked up by someone else ages ago, and not spent a year out. So naturally we should go with the training coach who has never ever been trusted with a job in club management by anyone.
- Derek Adams is only used to managing inferior small time players, unlike Jones who is used to top professional athletes. We're hardly playing Champions League standard at Home Park!

Dick Trickle wrote:

Do you have a routine before posting on here to live up to your username Angry such as punching yourself in the face, slaughtering live animals or looking at photo's of long lost loves? It is clearly not correct that anyone could have done what Adams did in Scottish football and as for referencing Dane....

As EJH says how do you explain the fact that both Hibs and Rangers will be playing league one football again?

If the standard is so shite why had no one else in Ross County's history achieved the feat?

Ross County are a Highland side (note used to dealing with teams outside the geographical hot spots) with a population of 5,000 people! Adams had them nearly qualifying for Europe beating Celtic on the way.

Whether he is the best person for the job is a different question but he sure is qualified to manage in this dog shit of a division.

The system where the 11th Place club in the Scottish Premier league plays the winner off the championship play-offs was only introduced in 2013-14. Ross County were promoted in 2012.

Livingston went from the 3rd Division of Scottish football in 95-96 to promotion to the Premier League in 2001. Graham Coughlan played for them.

The lower Scottish leagues are utter shite.

Up the Jones

'tis a bit OTT to write someone off because they happen to be managing in the Scottish leagues. There certainly isn't a 100% success rate in making the switch, as the cases of Walter Smith, Craig Levein and Jim Jeffries would testify. On the other hand, there weren't many complaints about Sturrock in his first spell down here and no doubt the same would apply to the guy who took over at Norwich this season. There was a bloke called Ferguson who was reasonably successful in making the transition so maybe the truth is that the risk factor is the same as in appointing a manager from anywhere else. Impossible to make up a conclusive case either way-suck it and see, in effect. Adams would be no more of a gamble than Jones.

Agreed.

I seem to remember some fella coming down from Dundee United at some point too.

Paven wrote:

Up the Jones

Announcement imminent?

ejh wrote:

Dick Trickle wrote:

Do you have a routine before posting on here to live up to your username Angry such as punching yourself in the face, slaughtering live animals or looking at photo's of long lost loves? It is clearly not correct that anyone could have done what Adams did in Scottish football and as for referencing Dane....

As EJH says how do you explain the fact that both Hibs and Rangers will be playing league one football again?

If the standard is so shite why had no one else in Ross County's history achieved the feat?

Ross County are a Highland side (note used to dealing with teams outside the geographical hot spots) with a population of 5,000 people! Adams had them nearly qualifying for Europe beating Celtic on the way.

Whether he is the best person for the job is a different question but he sure is qualified to manage in this dog shit of a division.

Angry's argument is full of contradictions.

- Scottish League One is too competitive/hard to get out of for Rangers/Hibernian, but apparently an absolute doddle for small sides like Ross County.
- If Derek Adams was so good he would have been picked up by someone else ages ago, and not spent a year out. So naturally we should go with the training coach who has never ever been trusted with a job in club management by anyone.
- Derek Adams is only used to managing inferior small time players, unlike Jones who is used to top professional athletes. We're hardly playing Champions League standard at Home Park!

clutching a bit arent you lol hardly contradictions are they just your opinion again.

You see when you keep bringing up rangers and hibs as proof the scottish championship is good but fail to mention for convenience i guess that both clubs are in financial ruin and have shite squads now days to match the championship standards as did Hearts who ran away with the title. Plus out of the 3 big ex spl clubs only one was guaranteed promotion. Im sure Hibs and Rangers will walk this league again next season and it will be between those two who goes up maybe both will do it next year if the other wins the pllayoff.

derek adams hasnt had one job offer since being sacked by his dad at ross county and if you google it there is the proof and you also get plenty on his reputation that speaks for itself heis the sort to start a row in an empty room. If he got the job here he wouldnt last 6 months under Brent as Brent would get rid off him and pay for the honour. Plus im not convinced he has the ability to manage in england where its a higher level even at league 2 to the pub leagues of scotland. SO yes I would rather have an unproven coach in Jesus Jones or Coughlan with a decent number 2 alongside them.

Make no mistake about the standard of SFL football we on ATD could field a team in those leagues and more than hold our own its that low quality..

Frank Bullitt wrote:

Paven wrote:

Up the Jones

Announcement imminent?

Hugh Watt wrote:

Dick Trickle wrote:

Do you have a routine before posting on here to live up to your username Angry such as punching yourself in the face, slaughtering live animals or looking at photo's of long lost loves? It is clearly not correct that anyone could have done what Adams did in Scottish football and as for referencing Dane....

As EJH says how do you explain the fact that both Hibs and Rangers will be playing league one football again?

If the standard is so shite why had no one else in Ross County's history achieved the feat?

Ross County are a Highland side (note used to dealing with teams outside the geographical hot spots) with a population of 5,000 people! Adams had them nearly qualifying for Europe beating Celtic on the way.

Whether he is the best person for the job is a different question but he sure is qualified to manage in this dog shit of a division.

The system where the 11th Place club in the Scottish Premier league plays the winner off the championship play-offs was only introduced in 2013-14. Ross County were promoted in 2012.

Livingston went from the 3rd Division of Scottish football in 95-96 to promotion to the Premier League in 2001. Graham Coughlan played for them.

The lower Scottish leagues are utter shite.

Gretna's rise up the leagues proved how pisspoor that structure is.

Angry wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

Dick Trickle wrote:

Do you have a routine before posting on here to live up to your username Angry such as punching yourself in the face, slaughtering live animals or looking at photo's of long lost loves? It is clearly not correct that anyone could have done what Adams did in Scottish football and as for referencing Dane....

As EJH says how do you explain the fact that both Hibs and Rangers will be playing league one football again?

If the standard is so shite why had no one else in Ross County's history achieved the feat?

Ross County are a Highland side (note used to dealing with teams outside the geographical hot spots) with a population of 5,000 people! Adams had them nearly qualifying for Europe beating Celtic on the way.

Whether he is the best person for the job is a different question but he sure is qualified to manage in this dog shit of a division.

The system where the 11th Place club in the Scottish Premier league plays the winner off the championship play-offs was only introduced in 2013-14. Ross County were promoted in 2012.

Livingston went from the 3rd Division of Scottish football in 95-96 to promotion to the Premier League in 2001. Graham Coughlan played for them.

The lower Scottish leagues are utter shite.

Gretna's rise up the leagues proved how pisspoor that structure is.

Gretna had an extremely wealthy owner. What they did was no different to what Wigan did in England with Dave Whelan's cash.

I'm told there are Cameras etc at HP now.........I'm repeating what I'm told so don't shoot the Messenger. Am only surprised its not been completed already

Cornish Chris wrote:

Angry wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

Dick Trickle wrote:

Do you have a routine before posting on here to live up to your username Angry such as punching yourself in the face, slaughtering live animals or looking at photo's of long lost loves? It is clearly not correct that anyone could have done what Adams did in Scottish football and as for referencing Dane....

As EJH says how do you explain the fact that both Hibs and Rangers will be playing league one football again?

If the standard is so shite why had no one else in Ross County's history achieved the feat?

Ross County are a Highland side (note used to dealing with teams outside the geographical hot spots) with a population of 5,000 people! Adams had them nearly qualifying for Europe beating Celtic on the way.

Whether he is the best person for the job is a different question but he sure is qualified to manage in this dog shit of a division.

The system where the 11th Place club in the Scottish Premier league plays the winner off the championship play-offs was only introduced in 2013-14. Ross County were promoted in 2012.

Livingston went from the 3rd Division of Scottish football in 95-96 to promotion to the Premier League in 2001. Graham Coughlan played for them.

The lower Scottish leagues are utter shite.

Gretna's rise up the leagues proved how pisspoor that structure is.

Gretna had an extremely wealthy owner. What they did was no different to what Wigan did in England with Dave Whelan's cash.

the amount of money he put in to achieve all that Gretna did wasn't that much in comparison to Wigan at all. Certainly wouldn't have achieved much in the english leagues..

IMO it has to be Adams out of the two, it's a no brainer. Jones has never been a manager FFS
There are hundreds of assistants who can talk about how the the game should be played but not many make successful managers.

steveinspain wrote:

IMO it has to be Adams out of the two, it's a no brainer. Jones has never been a manager FFS
There are hundreds of assistants who can talk about how the the game should be played but not many make successful managers.

Thats is a very poor reason imo to appoint some simply because they were a manager once with all due respect.

Paven wrote:

Frank Bullitt wrote:

Paven wrote:

Up the Jones

Announcement imminent?

I would be happy with either of them.

Adams clearly has something about him as getting Ross County to the level they have is no mean feat. He must have impressed Brent and Co with his application and interview to still be in the running. He is not exactly a household name in English football so he must have done something to get this far.

I don't think any of us had heard of Jones until a few weeks ago. Again, he must have impressed with his preparation and maybe he will bring a professionalism to Argyle that we have been lacking for a long time. I think Jones will get it, and hopefully he will be our Eddie Howe.

I'm warming more to Adams. Looking at some of the links on pasoti, even Ross County fans rate him still and think he is a good motivator and manager. It seems that once their championship winning squad was broken up and cheap replacements brought in, things turned sour (reminds me of us in 2007). Both would be gambles but Adams has won titles/ promotion.

Frank Bullitt wrote:

I would be happy with either of them.

Adams clearly has something about him as getting Ross County to the level they have is no mean feat. He must have impressed Brent and Co with his application and interview to still be in the running. He is not exactly a household name in English football so he must have done something to get this far.

I don't think any of us had heard of Jones until a few weeks ago. Again, he must have impressed with his preparation and maybe he will bring a professionalism to Argyle that we have been lacking for a long time. I think Jones will get it, and hopefully he will be our Eddie Howe.

His cv looks like mourinhos compared to the other names mentioned which just shows how far our rep has fallen under Brent in recent years that we cant attract even a decent crop of applicants these days that arent either put off by the lack of funds and ambition from Brent or the location of Plymouth and its league status.

Angry wrote:

Frank Bullitt wrote:

I would be happy with either of them.

Adams clearly has something about him as getting Ross County to the level they have is no mean feat. He must have impressed Brent and Co with his application and interview to still be in the running. He is not exactly a household name in English football so he must have done something to get this far.

I don't think any of us had heard of Jones until a few weeks ago. Again, he must have impressed with his preparation and maybe he will bring a professionalism to Argyle that we have been lacking for a long time. I think Jones will get it, and hopefully he will be our Eddie Howe.

His cv looks like mourinhos compared to the other names mentioned which just shows how far our rep has fallen under Brent in recent years that we cant attract even a decent crop of applicants these days that arent either put off by the lack of funds and ambition from Brent or the location of Plymouth and its league status.

Not really. Brian McDermott and Neil Warnock have both managed in the Premiership in the last few years. If one of our rivals was attracting names like that we would be asking questions as to why we couldn't do the same. The budget may well put them off, but they would be deluded if they thought that a 4 division team would be paying anything other then 4th division wages.

Frank Bullitt wrote:

Angry wrote:

Frank Bullitt wrote:

I would be happy with either of them.

Adams clearly has something about him as getting Ross County to the level they have is no mean feat. He must have impressed Brent and Co with his application and interview to still be in the running. He is not exactly a household name in English football so he must have done something to get this far.

I don't think any of us had heard of Jones until a few weeks ago. Again, he must have impressed with his preparation and maybe he will bring a professionalism to Argyle that we have been lacking for a long time. I think Jones will get it, and hopefully he will be our Eddie Howe.

His cv looks like mourinhos compared to the other names mentioned which just shows how far our rep has fallen under Brent in recent years that we cant attract even a decent crop of applicants these days that arent either put off by the lack of funds and ambition from Brent or the location of Plymouth and its league status.

Not really. Brian McDermott and Neil Warnock have both managed in the Premiership in the last few years. If one of our rivals was attracting names like that we would be asking questions as to why we couldn't do the same. The budget may well put them off, but they would be deluded if they thought that a 4 division team would be paying anything other then 4th division wages.

But did those two actually apply for the job? the media linked them but Warnock himself said he wasnt interested for a number of reasons and McDermott was always a pipe dream to prize him away from Arsenal to come here in our current state.