Bye bye Sheridan (Confirmed)

Jolly respectful, unlike those trolls we are constantly warned about.

Is the Club President a freak and weirdo?

I can hear it on the farm now "there's only one Paul Wotton, there's only one Paul Wotton" -all sing along now!

Well it is a fact, there is only one Paul Wotton, but can't see him succeding where Paul Mariner failed.

I dont want the club to appoint Wotton if anything just to prove me wrong and that this hasnt been in the pipeline for a long time.

I dont have an issue with him being kept on as part of the new guys coaching team whether thats as he is now a coach or made assistant manager but to give him the managers job now would be a bad appointment destine to fail and he would be getting the job for all the wrong reasons.

What wrong reasons?

steveinspain wrote:

What wrong reasons?

He would get the job based on the fact he played for the club, as we have seen on here there is a local mentality and he has a farmer giles accent. His credentials and suitability for the job atm wouldnt be taken into account. Plus if it gets fed to brent by working class tories that the fans will want wotton and no other brent will hire him based on that fullstop.

So as i say all the qrong reasons not he is genuinely the best candidate interviewed.

He's the cheapest.

pepsipete wrote:

He's the cheapest.

this too

Surely Wotton wouldn't take the job?

He'd be fired after ten games and out of the club and then bang goes his current gig which on past Argyle form he probably has for life!

Or alternatively a new manager gets appointed who brings in his own coaches and Wotton is out on his ear like Larrieu was when Fletcher got the boot.

An outcome the possibility of which Wotton is surely all to aware of.

If he gets offered a contract in any capacity it'll be signed just as soon as the pen can be put in his hand.

People keep saying Wotton is a big risk like Fletch, that led to us scrambling for a proven manager to sort out.

Was the difference between Fletch and Shez not more to do with one had a budget to sign firemen, pot bellied left backs and on loan strikers from Aldershot - and the other had a dozen signings with League One experience and loans galore from the top two tiers?

ejh wrote:

People keep saying Wotton is a big risk like Fletch, that led to us scrambling for a proven manager to sort out.

Was the difference between Fletch and Shez not more to do with one had a budget to sign firemen, pot bellied left backs and on loan strikers from Aldershot - and the other had a dozen signings with League One experience and loans galore from the top two tiers?

Who knows.Maybe they had the same budget, the difference being one manager actually had a clue as to what he was doing. Either that or Sheridan had the experience and clout to tell the directors that what was on the books simply wasn't good enough and it needed addressing quickly. Whichever, it certainly led to an upturn in results and I don't think even you could argue with that.

Promoting from within [or indeed appointing former players] has never worked at Argyle. Fletcher was just the latest in a long series of disaster appointments who have done untold damage to the club over the years, instigated by boards of directors who for some reason [probably because of the appeal of cheapness] ignored history and stayed in house. Ufton, Kelly, Jones, McCall were all failures in the post after stepping up from the ranks-some can cut it as a manager in their own right, others can't. Whether Wotton could buck that trend is a matter of opinion but personally I wouldn't like to see it tried. Must admit that Coughlin does have some appeal in spite of the reservations about ex players but on the whole, i would like to see someone with a proven track record brought in who can take the club by the scruff of the neck and impose his stamp on it. Not going to be easy to find someone of that calibre though.

Isn't the over-riding trend amongst our past managers the fact that most of them fail? As such nearly any subset you care to extract from them will be dominated by failure. It's almost inevitable.

Another salient point is that nearly every manager has started by facing something akin to a crisis because far more managers are sacked than choose to leave or get headhunted so they have to halt a slump before they can even begin to be successful.

I would like to think that Argyle in its current state is a very attractive proposition to any prospective manager. After all we remain a big fish in this particular pond, the squad has been trimmed by the recent exodus of players, we have a relatively sound back 4/5 and goalkeeper under contract, as is a 20 goals/season striker, the dressing room isn't stuffed to bursting with failed old lags hanging in there for their last contract, there's plenty of scope to bring in his own type of player, we've just had our best season in years after 3 years of steady, if less than spectacular, improvement and, if we accept what we have been led to believe, the albatross of historic debt has all but been removed from our necks. Hell! In my wilder flights of fancy I might even proclaim that having the 7th best budget in the division is very competitve at this level!

The upshot is that the new boss will not be originating from a not bad starting point at all so whoever takes over starts with what amounts to being a following wind and, at worst, a level playing field in a division riddled by general uselessness and under-funded ineptitude.

It's all in place for a successful season next year and it wouldn't need unrealistic levels of improvement to get there. It definitely won't need a miracle worker and mere competence and possibly even just as much as a professional lack of incompetence, stupidity and negligence will be enough.

I'm not suggesting that Wotton should be given the job, my preferred option would be Keith Hill, just that I can see why he might get it and if he does get it I don't see that as being necessarily disastrous in itself.

ejh wrote:

People keep saying Wotton is a big risk like Fletch, that led to us scrambling for a proven manager to sort out.

Was the difference between Fletch and Shez not more to do with one had a budget to sign firemen, pot bellied left backs and on loan strikers from Aldershot - and the other had a dozen signings with League One experience and loans galore from the top two tiers?

fletcher was shit at the end of the day. no amount of transfer funds would have changed that fact.

he enjoyed the first 2 goals how shit were our defence back then!?

Angry wrote:

he enjoyed the first 2 goals how shit were our defence back then!?

Fook me, wish he could have gone back in time and signed himself.

Begs a best XI ex-managers team, doesn't it!

1. Peter Shilton
2. Gordon Nisbet
3. Carl Fletcher
4. Peter Reid
5. Bobby Moncur
6. Bobby Saxton
7. Kevin Hodges
8. John Sheridan
9. Paul Mariner
10. Paul Sturrock
11. Steve McCall

... playing 3-5-2.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Begs a best XI ex-managers team, doesn't it!

1. Peter Shilton
2. Gordon Nisbet
3. Carl Fletcher
4. Peter Reid
5. Bobby Moncur
6. Bobby Saxton
7. Kevin Hodges
8. John Sheridan
9. Paul Mariner
10. Paul Sturrock
11. Steve McCall

... playing 3-5-2.

Now THAT is a football team. Substitutes Waiters,Rowley,Rae,Williamson,Ufton,Allison and Bingham.Unstoppable at most levels.

Angry wrote:

ejh wrote:

People keep saying Wotton is a big risk like Fletch, that led to us scrambling for a proven manager to sort out.

Was the difference between Fletch and Shez not more to do with one had a budget to sign firemen, pot bellied left backs and on loan strikers from Aldershot - and the other had a dozen signings with League One experience and loans galore from the top two tiers?

fletcher was shit at the end of the day. no amount of transfer funds would have changed that fact.

Indeed he was.

I think whoever the new manager is they should keep Wotton on in the same role as now. He still has plenty to learn before he gets a top dugout role.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Begs a best XI ex-managers team, doesn't it!

1. Peter Shilton
2. Gordon Nisbet
3. Carl Fletcher
4. Peter Reid
5. Bobby Moncur
6. Bobby Saxton
7. Kevin Hodges
8. John Sheridan
9. Paul Mariner
10. Paul Sturrock
11. Steve McCall

... playing 3-5-2.

sorry but what has that got to do with this thread?

Angry wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Begs a best XI ex-managers team, doesn't it!

1. Peter Shilton
2. Gordon Nisbet
3. Carl Fletcher
4. Peter Reid
5. Bobby Moncur
6. Bobby Saxton
7. Kevin Hodges
8. John Sheridan
9. Paul Mariner
10. Paul Sturrock
11. Steve McCall

... playing 3-5-2.

sorry but what has that got to do with this thread?

To be fair, about as much as posting a video of Sheridan the player in the first place-harmless diversion i'd have thought, don't really see what your point is.

Greenskin wrote:

Angry wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Begs a best XI ex-managers team, doesn't it!

1. Peter Shilton
2. Gordon Nisbet
3. Carl Fletcher
4. Peter Reid
5. Bobby Moncur
6. Bobby Saxton
7. Kevin Hodges
8. John Sheridan
9. Paul Mariner
10. Paul Sturrock
11. Steve McCall

... playing 3-5-2.

sorry but what has that got to do with this thread?

To be fair, about as much as posting a video of Sheridan the player in the first place-harmless diversion i'd have thought, don't really see what your point is.

yeah but the sheridan vid scoring 2 goals against argyle in a sheridan thread keeps with the theme... naming a best 11 is totally off topic.

Not if it has Sheridan in it...