He really has sold out

Adulterous village idiot sucks up to moribund football club owner screams arsewipe rag.

i do hope Mr Angry that you realise i was taking the piss.

My position is simple Brent OUT -  Webb OUT
Porky can stay as an object of ridicule :-)

PatDunne wrote:

i do hope Mr Angry that you realise i was taking the piss.

My position is simple Brent OUT -  Webb OUT
Porky can stay as an object of ridicule :-)

of course but our guests reading this right now dont

I'm not scared

PatDunne wrote:

i do hope Mr Angry that you realise i was taking the piss.

My position is simple Brent OUT -  Webb OUT
Porky can stay as an object of ridicule :-)

Don't think you could move him even if you wanted!

Pafcintheplace wrote:

What kind of backward city allows a wanker like that to have even a modicum of credibility?

The sort of city that elects a Steve Evans like Tudor.

So predictable - Janner soap opera!!

He really has surpassed himself this time.

I think this latest article shows just how stupid Chris Webb actually is. Does he not realise how foolish it makes him look as there is no doubt that he only represents himself, and has no interest in PAFC or Plymouth.

I HAVE never really written or spoken too much of the dark days of administration at Argyle.

Oh really? I must be on drugs because it's felt like you've done little else. You had a massive part in our club still being alive. But you didn't half feck around with its soul in the process and you've not stopped basking in the glory of it since. Still, good thing you're not using it to promote a personal business venture... oh, wait.

Partially because a book was talked about for some time but mainly because the club moved from a battle to save its existence to a battle for Football League survival at the time and priorities and thoughts were elsewhere.

Whereas priorities now are on James's pension fund

This week however, news at two football clubs has brought back some stark memories. From Portsmouth we now hear that they are debt-free, 18 months after administration. This is a fantastic achievement but of course it is against a backdrop of 16,000 home gates and huge parachute payments that the club has received. Argyle, sadly have not had the luxury of either.

Meanwhile at Hereford United, a group of loyal and passionate supporters are seeing their club die before their eyes. They get no answers, no hope and no assurances on whether the club they love will live on much longer. There is no James Brent for Hereford United. The fans’ trust and the majority of Hereford supporters are currently staging a boycott on match days. I am hoping to get a fans reunited event off the ground this week and set a date for supporters from all over the UK to visit Hereford and show our support.

Fair play to you for that. But at the first sign of fans needing a champion at Home Park, someone with credibility to stand up to power, you sided with power. Trades unions have a word for people like that.

Moving back to Argyle, we heard the news last week that the club have taken a loan from the council to help reduce the debts that remain from the administration period. To me, this is a classic win/win situation. The council has recognised (again) the importance of Argyle to the city and set up a financing deal that will see a guaranteed return for the people of Plymouth. Argyle now finally have the opportunity to move on from such a horrific period. It will mean season ticket, gate and merchandising income can actually start to go to the first team without money being set aside to pay debts. It will mean that the partnership between the council and the club is stronger than ever and hopefully give the right backdrop for negotiations on the new grandstand to move forward at pace.

No, it means that Brent is leveraging more debt on to the club and what's more is doing it from the public purse. It's grubby begging bowl stuff. The Council are in this because they've gone all in on Brent being able to deliver and they're chasing losses. It's a sensible enough strategy as it kicks the can down the road past elections. But strategy? Strength? Nah.

I have read online over the last few weeks (admittedly from posters who feel the need to hide their identity and cower behind a keyboard) that James Brent isn’t the right man for Argyle, that he is only interested in development and once he makes his money he will be off.

I don't feel the need to hide my identity behind a keyboard. You on the other hand did, at least twice, to deliberately sabotage an elected supporters trust. So this sentence makes you an idiot or spectacularly un-self aware. Or possibly both.

That isn’t the James Brent that I know personally. A man who I pressured constantly over a period of months to buy Argyle because despite the internet dreamers thinking otherwise, there was nobody else. The man that allegedly doesn’t care about football but attended 43 of the 46 matches we played last season. The man who has risked his family’s financial security to ensure that this City has a Football Club.

FRIEND! FOOTBALL FRIEND! Oh, and by the laws of attending football, the couple who go to every game wearing bright green trousers should be in charge of the club. And risking his family's futures? Bollocks.

I am sure James Brent would be the first to hold his hands up and say that he is not perfect. Who is?

Deliberate obfuscation. Nobody is asking for perfection. They are asking for basic competence. But they're not getting it.

What I am sure of though is that inch by inch this club is crawling back to its feet. Do I wish it was quicker? Yes, of course. We all want instant success. What I always remember though is that the man that leads our club now is the only reason why we still have an Argyle, why fans still get to see their beloved team, why hotels, bars and restaurants in the city still benefit from match day income and why the dream is still alive.

I don't want instant success. I want a club I can be proud of and that is run ethically and with respect for all fans, not just the people who agree with you.

And James Brent may be the only reason why Plymouth has a football league club, but there will always be an Argyle. Surprised you would sell it out so easily.  

There will be, I am sure many more twists and turns on the way back to where we belong.

In the meantime the board has my full support in getting us there and as for James Brent: ‘It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming’

I can use wiki quote too! Here's another one from Roosevelt. "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the... public.”
 

Top post Gareth!

I can only agree.

Agreed, top post Gareth. The bizarre sociopath will be choking on his cornflakes when he reads that.

Frank Bullitt wrote:

Agreed, top post Gareth. The bizarre sociopath will be choking on his cornflakes when he reads that.

But of course he won't read it because he never reads this place anymore.

Top post Gareth.

Post it on the Herald comments Gareth and see how long it lasts. He leads a charmed life when it comes to protection from criticism. Maybe the Herald know the same "top lawyer" as Pisspoti.

How any decent Argyle fan can tolerate the reluctant one and his devious jamboys is quite beyond me......................... unless they are thick.

Gareth N said;
I can use wiki quote too! Here's another one from Roosevelt.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the... public.”
 
Take a bow son. LMOLOCOPTOROL.

Well done Gareth spoken from a real supporter's heart!

jabba the gut ecfc wrote:

The sort of city that elects a Steve Evans like Tudor.

My faith in human nature is rewarded, I was beginning to think that the success of Rotherham was rehabilitating the Evans and that I was shouldering the burden alone, well with the Daggers which I suppose is almost alone.

Leaving aside Jabba's allusion to the character of local guv leaders, I am not convinced that Plymouth is much different to just about anywhere else, it is your own fault that this saga goes on, you needed to mob up and gob up long ago, El Porko's reign as fan of first resort should have been dealt with by mass, direct, supporter action.

Never mind you are still in there pitching, phnarr, phnarr, and, notwithstanding the 2,000 to 1 chance of City maintaining our run at the aforementioned Dags on Friday, you are still above us.

I wouldn't say fair play to Webb at all. It's just another opportunity for the self-aggrandising toad to strike another heroic pose by feeding off the misery of another club's fans like some horrific Janner vampire. He'll get to put yet more personal capital in the bank - no doubt with the aid of adoring publicity from the Brent Herald - which can then be used to influence a few more of the gullible fools who seem to be rather thick on the ground at Home Park on matchdays.

HUST and the boycotters are against everything the turncoat Webb stands for. In fact it was a leech of a rich local businessman (David Keyte, who once even played for the club's reserve team) and then a bunch of leeches with an eye on the club's land that shafted them in the first place. PAFC under Brent could not be a more striking antithesis of their goal of a club under not-for-profit fan ownership.

Gareth Nicholson wrote:

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[b]Oh really? I must be on drugs because it's felt like you've done little else. You had a massive part in our club still being alive. ...

I really wish I didn't have to underline that sentence, but needs must and I would really like someone to explain to me once and for all exactly what Webb did that was so instrumental in saving the club. It seems to be accepted as an article of faith in some quarters, but is there anything more to it than the old adage that if you say any old shite often enough someone will believe it?

Granted, he put a lot of work into publicity stunts like vigils, marches and whatnot, which to be fair must have been good for the morale of a lot of Greens. He was also extremely good at keeping the plight of PAFC in the press (albeit with either his mug or his name wedged in with a crowbar at every opportunity) but what did he do that fundamentally affected the eventual outcome? After all it's a matter of record that Brent expressed his interest on day one - Todd's firm even complained of being frozen out by Brendan.

So from where I'm standing it looks as though,



- Brent wanted the club; he got the club.

- Brent wanted the development land; he got the development land.

- Brent didn't want to buy the ground (too much trouble to build on?) but PCC put a spanner in the works by insisting they wouldn't buy it for him, as in their words it would be, "financial madness"; In the end Brent didn't have to buy the ground and PCC bought it for him. (For some reason it wasn't financial madness any more).

- Brent likes to get stuff for free; he got stuff for free. He didn't have to pay for any of the costs of the miraculously unfunded adminstration, or apparently even to acquire the club itself, since PCC took care of that by purchasing the stadium (see above). He even got the bonus of some free land to help with the Great Vanishing Development Scheme.




So where does Webb the Saviour come in? I can't for the life of me see how too much would have been different if Webb had been inflating his ego somewhere else. It might have meant a few more political bumps in the road for Brent to negotiate, but the man is a genius politician so I suspect if he had to he'd have found another wannabe to act as his Trojan Horse with the fanbase.

As I say I would really like to learn something concrete that he did. None of this "building relationships", "good communicator", "breeding confidence" bollocks that he's fond of coming out with, but something tangible.

Chris Webb started out as one of us. Then he drank from the cup of power and it warped his walnut brain. He thinks he is a guru for Football Fans and a beacon of light for Clubs in Financial darkness.
He wants to look in the mirror and see if there is a reflection!!!? I dont think there is. the vampire that he is.
I would rather Argyle shut up shop and started over than endure all the superfans and harry potter acolytes.
Look at their behaviour, fake accounts to spread their poison, fake accounts to start trouble,personal threats and allegations of email hacking. Private investigators being used to dig dirt, one of them allegedly had an affair with a players wife.they are a vile bunch of sycophants they have sucked the soul from argyle and are dining on its cadaver. Brent is an incompetent man.
Nothing he has promised he has delivered. he is leveraging debt from pcc onto the club.

Go now Brent and take your superfans with you.

No one I know ever heard of Webb before admin. Then he wormed his way into the trust and used his position to crowbar his mug and name in to everything argyle related then he dropped the trust and used the made up president title.

As has been mentioned before I saw a lot of away games during the 80's, 90's and into the millennium and with it you got to know faces. You didn't necessarily know names but you got to recognise the same old faces.
Not once in 30 years do I ever recall seeing Webb's face. That is of course not to say that he ever went but the super fans who were there week in and week out you got to recognise.
Perhaps he was already up at boardroom level even in those days like the true socialist he is.....err...

Chris Webb @Chris_Webb1 · 18m 18 minutes ago

Love this Oscar Wilde quote 'Ridicule is the tribute paid to the genius by the mediocrities.' #quoteoftheday