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PostSubject: Re: Shake up of leagues.Subject: FA to consider a new competition for Premier and Championship B teams..      Shake up of leagues.Subject: FA to consider a new competition for Premier and Championship B teams..    - Page 7 EmptySun May 18, 2014 8:00 am

How about leaving it as it is. If an English born player is better than Sergio Van Nostrilboy, the manager will pick the English player.
If Premier League teams want reserve/competitive football, they can have their own reserve league - they can afford it. If they coincide reserve fixtures with first team fixtures, they can play on the same day. Have an under 23 game happen before the first team fixture.
Example.

Liverpool vs Man Utd (4pm Sunday)
Liverpool under 23s vs Man Utd under 23s kicks off at 2.30pm - the game is not a full 90 minutes but just a 50 minute game with a 10 minute half time. Game ends at 3.30pm(ish)
30 minutes or so later, the first teams kick off.
You'd get 20,000+ at the opening game - this would allow these players the opportunity to play in front of a big crowd.

I should be running the FA.

My model has miles more value than Spurs under 23s playing in an empty stadium, on a shocking pitch against Newport County.
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How about redistributing a little of that PL money so that the county FAs get more, are able to maintain more pitches to a better standard and are able to emply a few more properly qualified coaches?

10% of the £1.5bn recently doled out in prize money should easily do it and the clubs would still have loads more money than they had last year.
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Sir Francis Drake wrote:
How about redistributing a little of that PL money so that the county FAs get more, are able to maintain more pitches to a better standard and are able to emply a few more properly qualified coaches?

10% of the £1.5bn recently doled out in prize money should easily do it and the clubs would still have loads more money than they had last year.


I can't see that happening as they have all the cake and are stuffing themselves silly, while laughing at the lower leagues and crassroots..

The big owners of the top clubs only care about what they can get and/or win.

The current league structure should be left as it is now. Having said that, Dyke and the FA will continue regardless with the silly idea of introducing a B league.

Newcastle United are not going to put a B team in this proposed new league, but are open to the idea of having a feeder club.
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Football League set to reject FA’s B league proposals

General consensus’ among clubs to reject Greg Dyke’s plan
The loan system as it is now works better

Greg Dyke's controversial proposal to introduce a B league is expected to be rejected by the Football League on Thursday.

Football League clubs are expected to reject Greg Dyke’s controversial B league proposals at their summer meeting in Portugal on Thursday.

Dyke, the FA chairman, has proposed a new division be created between the Conference and League Two which would include a number of Premier League clubs’ B teams. The plan emerged from his England commission, which aims to increase the number of English players in the top flight, and Dyke says it would give young players more experience of competitive football.

But Bradford City’s chairman, Mark Lawn, said there was a “general consensus” among the 72 Football League clubs that the B league would not work. Lawn, speaking from Portugal ahead of the meeting, told the Press Association: “Nobody understands how playing at Conference or League One level can help any player make it to play for England. There is a general consensus that it wouldn’t work and would not be good for our club football either. The FA need to go to the Premier League and say they only have so many foreigners but they won’t do it.

“The loan system as it is now works better – look at Tom Cleverley. He started at Bradford, went to Manchester United when he was 12, went out on loan to Leicester, Watford and Wigan then went back to United and ended up playing for England. If they are going to end up playing for England they need to be playing at least at Championship level.”

Blackburn’s managing director, Derek Shaw, echoed Lawn in claiming the current loan system works better than a B league would, and pointed out that Manchester United’s young defender Michael Keane had been given “terrific experience” during his loan spell with Rovers last season.

Shaw said: “We want to help the FA where we can. I’m personally not a big believer in this B league plan. We think the loan system can provide young players with terrific experience as happened with Michael Keane who came to us from Manchester United last season.”

Football League officials are due to present an alternative proposal which would see some Premier League B teams play in an expanded Johnstone’s Paint Trophy, which would include a group stage. It is unclear, however, whether that would interest top-flight clubs.

The meeting will also discuss the use of artificial 3G pitches following the FA’s decision to allow them in all rounds of the FA Cup, and the continuing dispute over financial fair play rules in the Championship.

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Tgwu wrote:

Football League officials are due to present an alternative proposal which would see some Premier League B teams play in an expanded Johnstone’s Paint Trophy, which would include a group stage. It is unclear, however, whether that would interest top-flight clubs.


The football league should even bother offering this counter proposal - they should just tell Dyke to shove the B Team plan up his arse. No point pandering to it as an idea. It's such a badly thought out plan that anyone who even bothered to think about it for 10s would realise how ridiculous it is.
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This comment is where the nail is hit firmly on the head..

''But Bradford City’s chairman, Mark Lawn, said there was a “general consensus” among the 72 Football League clubs that the B league would not work. Lawn, speaking from Portugal ahead of the meeting, told the Press Association: “Nobody understands how playing at Conference or League One level can help any player make it to play for England. There is a general consensus that it wouldn’t work and would not be good for our club football either. The FA need to go to the Premier League and say they only have so many foreigners but they won’t do it''.

Not too sure about the FL idea have having some PL B sides playing in the mickey mouse cup that is the JPT. That would degrade the competition a tad. Might aswell bring back the Anglo-Scottish cup while they are about it..
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Who was saying about sharing out the £1.5bn more fairly?

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£3 feckin billion, more money than they know what to do with. Football in this country needs to be looked at as a whole, not just the prem. with the rest of the country looking enviously on. I'm not talking about giving Argyle another £50m but coaching, training and facilities country wide (not just the big London clubs) need to be improved. The young starlets need nurturing from a very young age, taken to tournaments abroad to play decent opposition, have exchanges with other countries, not just players but coaches as well. I remember well when Carling (I think) got into shit loads of trouble for saying that the people in charge of rugby were a "load of old farts." he was right and people listened and as a result the game is almost unrecognisable from twenty years ago. Feckin great new broom needed to sweep the greedy bastards right out of it.
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