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+20Flat_Track_Bully GreenSam Moist_Von_Lipwig bjorn_yesterday zyph Sir Francis Drake VillageGreen hippo Elias hairy j Peggy mouldyoldgoat seadog Czarcasm Mock Cuncher Lord Tisdale Greenskin Mapperley, darling pepsipete downthetrack 24 posters |
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zyph
Posts : 13384 Join date : 2014-03-02 Age : 85
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:26 pm | |
| - Sir Francis Drake wrote:
- So the USA is going to ally with Sunni Iran to fight the Shia ISIS who are backed by the Shia Saudis who are allied to the USA?
If I've got that right US troops could end up in direct conflict with other US troops.
What a, literally, bloody mess. I thought that ISIS was Sunni ? |
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Elias
Posts : 6006 Join date : 2011-12-05 Location : brent out
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:39 am | |
| Is iran under threat though ?
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hairy j
Posts : 639 Join date : 2014-03-05
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:26 am | |
| - Elias wrote:
- Is iran under threat though ?
If ISIS occupy Iraq then yes. They'll have a nuclear power next door. I think that's what Cameron is vaguely alluding to when he's stated that 'this is the UK's biggest threat'. I don't advocate that kind of state sponsored scare-mongering - it's been done before with the WMD headlines that came from Number 10 when Tony Blair was the PM and we've all pretty much concluded that Blair was either misinformed or lying. It's conceivable, if this ISIS 'threat' spreads, that it'll reach Palestine and Israel - ISIS oppose Hezbolah in the Lebanon. Jordan and Israel are in the way. It's messy. It's a bit difficult for us to understand here as we're an island nation so we don't have disputed borders or people living on the borders and in nearby countries who regard themselves as British. I don't really understand how Sunnis and Shiites regard one another or how they view their place in the World. It's evident though that a lot of people are going to die. The west are to blame too as 'we've' created a vacuum by destroying the infrastructure of Iraq and allowed that to happen in Syria. These ISIS fighters were born into a World the West have created. |
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Lord Tisdale
Posts : 3040 Join date : 2011-11-23
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:06 am | |
| - Sir Francis Drake wrote:
- So the USA is going to ally with Sunni Iran to fight the Shia ISIS who are backed by the Shia Saudis who are allied to the USA?
If I've got that right US troops could end up in direct conflict with other US troops.
What a, literally, bloody mess. "If I've got that right"You got absolutely fook all right, so pretty much par for the course I should say, you and Hairy could start a little club up and get T shirts printed or summat, can I suggest the Clueless Club as a name? The situation in the Sandpit is heinously complicated but at the root of it all is the evil that is intrinsic in the Islamic clergy which will soon be coming to a mosque near you. |
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Lord Tisdale
Posts : 3040 Join date : 2011-11-23
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:15 am | |
| - hairy j wrote:
It's conceivable, if this ISIS 'threat' spreads, that it'll reach Palestine and Israel - ISIS oppose Hezbolah in the Lebanon. Jordan and Israel are in the way. Not a scooby, ISIS are as much a threat to Israel as Argyle are to Bayern Munich. |
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VillageGreen
Posts : 6103 Join date : 2012-01-13 Age : 60 Location : Plymouth
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:41 pm | |
| - hairy j wrote:
- ISIS aren't 'freedom fighters' - they're executing any one who opposes them. 'Al Queda' threw them out for being too extreme. There's a theory that the West want an extremist Arab state where all these insurgents live - the reason being, at the moment, they have no country, no geographical centre and they're essentially fighting a geurilla war that the West can't win. If they have a state, the West can bomb it into oblivion, if they have an army, tanks, an air force, the West can fight against that. I hope that's not the case as there's millions of people stuck in the middle.
An extreme Arab state right next door to Iran isn't going to be a very nice place to be. Radio 5 were interviewing some young Muslim lads up North the other day and some said they would go and fight in Syria and/or Iraq. I find that rather sad tbh. |
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VillageGreen
Posts : 6103 Join date : 2012-01-13 Age : 60 Location : Plymouth
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:45 pm | |
| - Sir Francis Drake wrote:
- What's this Sunni v Shia thing all about then?
The trouble with the Middle East is that just doesn't seem to be any Good Guys; it's Baddies v Worsies with it never being entirely clear which is which. This conflict between the Shia and Sunni goes backs Centuries, long before the USA that we know today was created. There was a chap from Time magazine [who has written an article about this] explaining on Radio 5 early this morning. They (political pundits) believe it could explode across the entire Middle-East and beyond..Which it now seems to be. I see today that one jihadist has called for Cameron and May to be beheaded.. |
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downthetrack
Posts : 1236 Join date : 2011-06-07 Age : 59
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:35 pm | |
| See Omar Bakri would like to come back to the place he hates,perhaps the welfare isn't quite so good in Lebanon ? He should be fighting Gee Had in his native Syria. Hope all the British Gee Hads meet their virgins very soon,Allen Akbar. Ramadan now so see an escalation in atrocities they get even more nutty when they're hungry. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:24 pm | |
| No body can argue that you saw all this shit coming DDT but your use of phrase say we will say does make you look like you really don't like Muslims and blame the problems here on the fact that they are all Muslims. That to me makes you sound like a racist. |
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downthetrack
Posts : 1236 Join date : 2011-06-07 Age : 59
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:43 pm | |
| - Iggy wrote:
- No body can argue that you saw all this shit coming DDT but your use of phrase say we will say does make you look like you really don't like Muslims and blame the problems here on the fact that they are all Muslims. That to me makes you sound like a racist.
No not racist,just hate murdering religious nutcases of any religion. At the moment its mainly islam apart from a few Buddhist. |
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seadog Admin
Posts : 15069 Join date : 2011-05-10 Age : 65 Location : @home or on the piss
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:54 pm | |
| Buddhist? Shirley shome mishtake! _______________________________________ COYG!
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VillageGreen
Posts : 6103 Join date : 2012-01-13 Age : 60 Location : Plymouth
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:37 pm | |
| - downthetrack wrote:
- See Omar Bakri would like to come back to the place he hates,perhaps the welfare isn't quite so good in Lebanon ? He should be fighting Gee Had in his native Syria.
Hope all the British Gee Hads meet their virgins very soon,Allen Akbar. Ramadan now so see an escalation in atrocities they get even more nutty when they're hungry. There was a report on Radio5live last night [Nolan Show] regarding t-shirts printed with the words Mr. Gee Had. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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VillageGreen
Posts : 6103 Join date : 2012-01-13 Age : 60 Location : Plymouth
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:29 pm | |
| There was a video on the beforeitsnews website last week showing the beheading of an Iraqi chap. A horrid video for sure. It has been taken down now, but the Iraqi chap looked petrified as ISIS members close to him spouted their message before one hacked and chopped his head off. |
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zyph
Posts : 13384 Join date : 2014-03-02 Age : 85
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:58 am | |
| - VillageGreen wrote:
- There was a video on the beforeitsnews website last week showing the beheading of an Iraqi chap. A horrid video for sure. It has been taken down now, but the Iraqi chap looked petrified as ISIS members close to him spouted their message before one hacked and chopped his head off.
Not surprising that he looked petrified.....what did you expect....a cheeky grin. |
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downthetrack
Posts : 1236 Join date : 2011-06-07 Age : 59
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:42 am | |
| All gone a bit quiet on the media regarding Iraq & Syria Plenty of coverage of Gaza though Israel protecting itself ? that's not on |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:44 am | |
| - downthetrack wrote:
- All gone a bit quiet on the media regarding Iraq & Syria
Plenty of coverage of Gaza though Israel protecting itself ? that's not on Not when every morning the Palestinians are piling up the bodies of all the children every morning as a result of the Israelis protecting themselves. It's no different to Devon shelling cottages in Gunnislake as a result of some terrorists chucking some rockets at Tavistock" this isn't good against bad they are all bad. And what is the difference between Israel and Palestine and us in Iraq or Afghanistan? Is it that we have God on our side? I despair. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:45 am | |
| - zyph wrote:
- VillageGreen wrote:
- There was a video on the beforeitsnews website last week showing the beheading of an Iraqi chap. A horrid video for sure. It has been taken down now, but the Iraqi chap looked petrified as ISIS members close to him spouted their message before one hacked and chopped his head off.
Not surprising that he looked petrified.....what did you expect....a cheeky grin. That's funny. |
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downthetrack
Posts : 1236 Join date : 2011-06-07 Age : 59
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:26 pm | |
| - Iggy wrote:
- downthetrack wrote:
- All gone a bit quiet on the media regarding Iraq & Syria
Plenty of coverage of Gaza though Israel protecting itself ? that's not on Not when every morning the Palestinians are piling up the bodies of all the children every morning as a result of the Israelis protecting themselves. It's no different to Devon shelling cottages in Gunnislake as a result of some terrorists chucking some rockets at Tavistock" this isn't good against bad they are all bad. And what is the difference between Israel and Palestine and us in Iraq or Afghanistan? Is it that we have God on our side? I despair. Not denying some children get killed, some of the footage has been proved to be old footage. Hamas of the religion of blood and carnage always the victim,get a fuxxxng grip people. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:31 pm | |
| - downthetrack wrote:
- All gone a bit quiet on the media regarding Iraq & Syria
Plenty of coverage of Gaza though Israel protecting itself ? that's not on from what? israel has an army, navy, air force, some of the worlds most hi tech military equipment including dome defence. Palestine has nothing. |
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Moist_Von_Lipwig
Posts : 1573 Join date : 2011-10-07 Age : 111
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:36 pm | |
| If you persistently stand near a hornet nest and throw stones at it, can you really complain when you and others around you get stung?
If Israel stop, they'll still get attacked. If Hamas stop, then so will Israel. |
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Moist_Von_Lipwig
Posts : 1573 Join date : 2011-10-07 Age : 111
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:37 pm | |
| What would you do if you were:
A Hamas
B Israel |
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Czarcasm
Posts : 10244 Join date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:41 pm | |
| Sadly, these sort of conflicts will never end due to decade after decade and century after century of prejudice and hatred that is handed down by generation after generation.
Someone mentioned earlier about young British Muslims wanting to go and fight in Syria and Iraq. Until this country has a seriously major crackdown on radicalisation - and I mean absolute zero tolerance, then it will continue to breed Jihadist nutcases.
Until that crackdown comes, let the fuckers go off and fight, if that's what they want - just make sure their deportation documents are stamped as they leave... |
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downthetrack
Posts : 1236 Join date : 2011-06-07 Age : 59
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:10 pm | |
| - Angry wrote:
- downthetrack wrote:
- All gone a bit quiet on the media regarding Iraq & Syria
Plenty of coverage of Gaza though Israel protecting itself ? that's not on from what? israel has an army, navy, air force, some of the worlds most hi tech military equipment including dome defence.
Palestine has nothing. The Arabs have thousands of square miles of land .Israel has 8000 sq miles but that's to much for the Arabs. |
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VillageGreen
Posts : 6103 Join date : 2012-01-13 Age : 60 Location : Plymouth
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:42 pm | |
| - Angry wrote:
- downthetrack wrote:
- All gone a bit quiet on the media regarding Iraq & Syria
Plenty of coverage of Gaza though Israel protecting itself ? that's not on from what? israel has an army, navy, air force, some of the worlds most hi tech military equipment including dome defence.
Palestine has nothing. The USA supplies Isreal with most of its arsenal, it is like Men Vs Boys when it kicks off over there. Will there ever be peace in that region ?. |
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VillageGreen
Posts : 6103 Join date : 2012-01-13 Age : 60 Location : Plymouth
| Subject: Re: Middle East Blood Bath 2014 Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:49 pm | |
| Here is the beforeitsnews link of the beheading of the Iraqi chap by the hands of ISIS..It was taken down, but it is running again and if any of you do have the stomach to watch, it is not very nice at all. They could have just shot the poor bloke. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Shocking way of getting a message across to a global audience though.
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