Argyle's Sponsor in Trouble?

I can't remember who it was but, when Nik was first discussed, someone on here defended him & his ilk by saying that he was unable to build up a credit rating without using a company like FES. They are NOT pay-day lenders. They DO charge extremely high interest rates. I don't like that but that's how this stinking system works. The sooner that government forces stricter regulation the better.

I also don't like that Nik has become someone to be reviled but maybe that's a lot to do with the company he keeps. Is it the case now that every director/sponsor/owner will have their ethical credentials examined? Maybe they should.

If I won the lottery (I would first have to start buying tickets) I can think of countless more worthwhile recipients of my money. I might buy back the bit of Home Park that the club used to own (albeit it at a higher rate than was paid for it now that planning permission has been delivered as part of the deal) and also build a good state-of-the-art grandstand. The rest of the space I'd give to the citizens of Plymouth to keep as an open space in perpetuity. Nah.... I'd spend it on people who actually need it - not a fuckin football club.

I spoke with someone last night who was adamant about some of the details of the current allegations about the difficulties that FES is in and how angry previous directors of the company are about the situation. He was convincing though there are some technical company finance issues we were unsure about (and I'll try to chat with an accountant I know to get the picture clearer). Nik has apparently given thousands to Argyle and its fans. He has provided sponsorship and free transport. Isn't that good? That's a worry if that source now has to dry up. That's why it's important not some pointless manking about the man.

Sensiblegreeny wrote:

The realisation that you have been done up like a shoal of kippers and now comes the deflection with lets see who we can have a little pop at to deflect the embarrassment.    Trolled in so many ways.     First with the info that seems to be a tad made up and then people spending their time watching another website for signs of their indignation that doesn't come.    A double troll.

If so many people didn't sit around hoping upon hopes that certain people would fall down then the possibility of being had wouldn't be so easy.     I have to say I've read this thread with amusement at times.     The loud whoopees when it was thought something bad had happened and then the slow climb down and hedging of bets when it was realised that they had been done over.    Suddenly people come over all responsible and start stating that Nik Barron must have a motive for his donations and wondering what his angle is as if that is the important question rather than the thread subject.   That's after stating previously that he is Brent's puppet of course.      Just hold your hands up a say fair cop boys and girls.

A special mention for Dane. Ask yourself the same question you ask of hairy.    You should understand that you are tollerated on here but that's about it.     Trying to come up with some popular funny against somebody who isn't the current flavour will not endear you to the regulars.    You will never be a Mod no matter how long you live or try to join the gang.        

and who are you to speak for everyone ? I don't do any harm, my posts are light hearted , yours and azzers are filled with pure hatred. I don't care if im never a mod you blubbering idiot, I only stand for fun, I know I wont get votes!!!!

Now the main point of this thread is being diverted by prats who want to use it as a platform for puerile personal vendettas against other posters. Mods!!!!!!

It looks from the outside, that Nikk has invested more in the club than the actual owner, yet apart from some advertising banners and the eternal gratitude of the Aviva faithful, he has nothing to show for it.
Considering the company he keeps at HP, there will undoubtedly be more to all of this than currently meets the eye.
Either that or he's an absolute diamond of a bloke with loads of money, a great love of PAFC and a heart of gold.

Tringreen wrote:

It looks from the outside, that Nikk has invested more in the club than the actual owner, yet apart from some advertising banners and the eternal gratitude of the Aviva faithful, he has nothing to show for it.
Considering the company he keeps at HP, there will undoubtedly be more to all of this than currently meets the eye.
Either that or he's an absolute diamond of a bloke with loads of money, a great love of PAFC and a heart of gold.

All of that might be right. I'm always suspicious of anyone who gives to charity and then wants to make a song & a dance about it. The number of public buildings named after benefactors or with bloody great expensive plaques stating how wonderful they are and how Lord Reginald Smyth-Pshaw opened the place! If the money from those plaques and opening ceremonies was used to further the work that went on inside I'd be more impressed.

So it seems that there is definitely more to follow in this farce. Nikk is always quick off the mark to have his solicitor post letters, anyone received anything yet?

knecht wrote:

Now the main point of this thread is being diverted by prats who want to use it as a platform for puerile personal vendettas against other posters. Mods!!!!!!

Agree. Guys, for once, can we just try to keep on-topic rather than the inevitable sabre rattling, one-upmanship, and toy throwing. It makes for a much more interesting debate and enjoyable for others.

he started it

Tringreen wrote:

It looks from the outside, that Nikk has invested more in the club than the actual owner

Any pensioner who has bought one concession ticket in the last two years has put more of his own cash into the club than Harry Potter.

ps. Now I don't know nuffin from nuffin but the throwing around of cash for no return and a fairly hefty lump of opprobrium strikes me as the action of someone who might be throwing around somebody else's cash. I am not for one second suggesting anything untoward in a legal sense has been going on but it is not unheard of for total fuckwits to get their mitts on to the kind of budgets they should never get within a million miles of, just look at Freddie Goodwin who managed to spunk over £30 billion of your money on the crock of shit which was ABN Amro.

Anyway, were I to win the Biggy, £150 million or so, I would definitely take Argyle off Harry's hands, then you boys would really have summat to whine about as I led the club into the Evo Stick in just three short seasons.

Don't mention Pension Funds!

wonder if any legal action will come of this.

Nikk has contacted the mods via the report abuse button, he isn't kicking off or threatening but used it as the quickest way of contacting us without opening another account. I can't copy and paste the actual report but I will paraphrase it to give Nikk a right to reply.

Nikk said (and I am not quoting but the gist of it is),
FES is not in administration or liquidation, they are not in financial trouble of any sort. They have an ongoing situation with claims made by previous directors which Nikk disputes. An administrator has been appointed to resolve this dispute and Nikk expects a positive outcome in his favour soon.

I guess the administrator has been appointed in an arbitration capacity?

Ps. He also mentioned that as always he will support Argyle in any way he can.

Iggy wrote:

Nikk has contacted the mods via the report abuse button, he isn't kicking off or threatening but used it as the quickest way of contacting us without opening another account. I can't copy and paste the actual report but I will paraphrase it to give Nikk a right to reply.

Nikk said (and I am not quoting but the gist of it is),
FES is not in administration or liquidation, they are not in financial trouble of any sort. They have an ongoing situation with claims made by previous directors which Nikk disputes. An administrator has been appointed to resolve this dispute and Nikk expects a positive outcome in his favour soon.

I guess the administrator has been appointed in an arbitration capacity?

Ps. He also mentioned that as always he will support Argyle in any way he can.

maybe there is hope for bridges to be rebuilt afterall

Just a thought Nikk but if you wish to comment you could always post on pasoti then any statement could be copied and pasted here.

Iggy wrote:

Just a thought Nikk but if you wish to comment you could always post on pasoti then any statement could be copied and pasted here.

sounds like the best idea to come from this thread.

Iggy wrote:

Nikk has contacted the mods via the report abuse button, he isn't kicking off or threatening but used it as the quickest way of contacting us without opening another account. I can't copy and paste the actual report but I will paraphrase it to give Nikk a right to reply.

Nikk said (and I am not quoting but the gist of it is),
FES is not in administration or liquidation, they are not in financial trouble of any sort. They have an ongoing situation with claims made by previous directors which Nikk disputes. An administrator has been appointed to resolve this dispute and Nikk expects a positive outcome in his favour soon.

I guess the administrator has been appointed in an arbitration capacity?

Ps. He also mentioned that as always he will support Argyle in any way he can.

Sounds like what I thought, others are not happy with the way he has spent the money, and why would they be? The money he has chucked at Argyle would be difficult to justify on a commercial basis.

FES is a limited company and as such its directors would be bound to only do things which were in the best interest of the shareholders, no idea what the shareholdings are but the impression given is that Nikk's largesse is pretty much based on his support of the team, not from a commercial prospective, I would suggest that were this established then there might well be a man from the HMRC sharpening his pencil and having a look at any tax offsets which may accrued despite payments apparently not being wholly and exclusively in the pursuance of the business.

Iggy wrote:

Nikk has contacted the mods via the report abuse button, he isn't kicking off or threatening but used it as the quickest way of contacting us without opening another account. I can't copy and paste the actual report but I will paraphrase it to give Nikk a right to reply.

Nikk said (and I am not quoting but the gist of it is),
FES is not in administration or liquidation, they are not in financial trouble of any sort. They have an ongoing situation with claims made by previous directors which Nikk disputes. An administrator has been appointed to resolve this dispute and Nikk expects a positive outcome in his favour soon.

I guess the administrator has been appointed in an arbitration capacity?

Ps. He also mentioned that as always he will support Argyle in any way he can.

Erm. Unless I've read something wrong, that's not a million miles away from the OP. Is it?

Ok, baring the soul time. I think I have a pretty good insight into this, some from personal experience. A couple of years ago Nikk is sitting at home, with a good bottle of red three quarters gone, seeing what the fans are doing for the club during the admin process. Not knowing anyone at the club at the time he thinks the easiest way to get involved is to chip in a few quid throigh the Pasoti auctions. Getting online, having a laugh and doing some good.

It then becomes an ever increasing circle. Nikk becomes an online personality and he enjoys that and doesnt want to let anyone down so the amounts become larger. Eventually IJN arranges a meet and Nikk gets invited into the 'inner circle'. I recently posted about my meet with Wyc Grousbeck, owner of the Boston Celtics who has a great expression about the smell of the jockstrap being a powerful drug. I think Nikk got hooked on the drug. The cameraderie at the Taverners, the access to the Boardroom, the 'celebrity' amongst fans. It happened to me before I became. Director. Unlike Nikk I didnt have fellow Directors so the only one I screwed by my involvement in Argyle was myself (and my
family but I suffered that loss too and can never forgive myself for that).

Argyle can drain you, financially and time wise. I am sure Nikk has done everything he has for the right reason but may have been carried away, never wanting to say 'no'.

I for one hope all Nikk's troubles are soon solved. No accounting for taste in friends but the man has been generous to the club, the staff and the fans and I thank him for that.

Erm no, the op said that FES had gone into liquidation, Nikk is saying that an administrator has been appointed to resolve a dispute between him and the ex directors. He states they are solvent.

hasn't he just closed one company and opened another ?

Rickler wrote:

Back to the point shortly, SFD...

Meanwhile.

Iggy wrote:

This thread is Gggggggrrrreeeaaaattttt!!!!
Fucks sake with hairy and Sensi providing character witness for the defence it makes my night! When are you ever going to make a point of view of your own? You wait for another of ATD to make one and then tell is why it's wrong. Arse licking tigers and posturing from a father and son double act who can't post on pasoti but don't really fit in on here either, if I were Hairy I would be clever enough to put a gif of Hairy in that star wars glass pane traveling through space forever but I'll have to suffice with a  

Sensi is lambasting those he claims delight in the downfall of others, whilst taking even greater delight in doing so himself.

Meanwhile,  the 'Clueless' son doesn't vote for himself, therefore making a mockery of the process, and insulting those who did vote for him.


They both are clearly not right in the head.   Allowances have to be made....

Back to you, SFD.

I got twelve votes and I have no idea who those people were however, I do know that I didn't vote for myself or any of the others. How is that insulting people who voted for me? I don't even know who they were. I didn't vote for myself as it's a bit weird in my mind to vote for yourself. I haven't insulted anybody on that election thread at all. You're clearly quite mad. One thing Newell go spot on is that you're a bona fide lunatic Rickler. I wish you'd leave leave me out of your pensioner war with sensiblegreeny too.

There's a definite inferiority complex on here to constantly keep mentioning pasoti - my point, in a nutshell, is that you don't have to keep mentioning another forum all the time. It just means they get more hits when you link a thread and that means more stats for the owner to brag about and more advertising possibilities for the owner. Any contentious thread goes like this:

OP
Some commets
Have hey mentioned this on pasoti?
No - why ever NOT!
Yes - ha! see, they're all mad and/or lying about something

Bring back more threads about Bigfoot is what I say.

hairy j wrote:

Rickler wrote:

Back to the point shortly, SFD...

Meanwhile.

Iggy wrote:

This thread is Gggggggrrrreeeaaaattttt!!!!
Fucks sake with hairy and Sensi providing character witness for the defence it makes my night! When are you ever going to make a point of view of your own? You wait for another of ATD to make one and then tell is why it's wrong. Arse licking tigers and posturing from a father and son double act who can't post on pasoti but don't really fit in on here either, if I were Hairy I would be clever enough to put a gif of Hairy in that star wars glass pane traveling through space forever but I'll have to suffice with a  

Sensi is lambasting those he claims delight in the downfall of others, whilst taking even greater delight in doing so himself.

Meanwhile,  the 'Clueless' son doesn't vote for himself, therefore making a mockery of the process, and insulting those who did vote for him.


They both are clearly not right in the head.   Allowances have to be made....

Back to you, SFD.

I got twelve votes and I have no idea who those people were however, I do know that I didn't vote for myself or any of the others.  How is that insulting people who voted for me? I don't even know who they were.  I didn't vote for myself as it's a bit weird in my mind to vote for yourself.  I haven't insulted anybody on that election thread at all.  You're clearly quite mad.  One thing Newell go spot on is that you're a bona fide lunatic Rickler.  I wish you'd leave leave me out of your pensioner war with sensiblegreeny too.

There's a definite inferiority complex on here to constantly keep mentioning pasoti - my point, in a nutshell, is that you don't have to keep mentioning another forum all the time.  It just means they get more hits when you link a thread and that means more stats for the owner to brag about and more advertising possibilities for the owner. Any contentious thread goes like this:

OP
Some commets
Have hey mentioned this on pasoti?
No - why ever NOT!
Yes - ha! see, they're all mad and/or lying about something

Bring back more threads about Bigfoot is what I say.

I voted for you   

I think Hairy has mentioned pasoti more times than anyone on this thread, obsessed?   

Anyway, although not liquidated FES is in administration, is that right?

GOB wrote:

I think Hairy has mentioned pasoti more times than anyone on this thread, obsessed?   

Anyway, although not liquidated FES is in administration, is that right?

I took it more that the "administrator" was mediating between Nikk and the other directors rather than FES being liquidated or in administration. I don't know what exactly he is mediating- profits? Will the Devonport end have to change its name again?

Davidfriio4 wrote:

hairy j wrote:

Rickler wrote:

Back to the point shortly, SFD...

Meanwhile.

Iggy wrote:

This thread is Gggggggrrrreeeaaaattttt!!!!
Fucks sake with hairy and Sensi providing character witness for the defence it makes my night! When are you ever going to make a point of view of your own? You wait for another of ATD to make one and then tell is why it's wrong. Arse licking tigers and posturing from a father and son double act who can't post on pasoti but don't really fit in on here either, if I were Hairy I would be clever enough to put a gif of Hairy in that star wars glass pane traveling through space forever but I'll have to suffice with a  

Sensi is lambasting those he claims delight in the downfall of others, whilst taking even greater delight in doing so himself.

Meanwhile,  the 'Clueless' son doesn't vote for himself, therefore making a mockery of the process, and insulting those who did vote for him.


They both are clearly not right in the head.   Allowances have to be made....

Back to you, SFD.

I got twelve votes and I have no idea who those people were however, I do know that I didn't vote for myself or any of the others.  How is that insulting people who voted for me? I don't even know who they were.  I didn't vote for myself as it's a bit weird in my mind to vote for yourself.  I haven't insulted anybody on that election thread at all.  You're clearly quite mad.  One thing Newell go spot on is that you're a bona fide lunatic Rickler.  I wish you'd leave leave me out of your pensioner war with sensiblegreeny too.

There's a definite inferiority complex on here to constantly keep mentioning pasoti - my point, in a nutshell, is that you don't have to keep mentioning another forum all the time.  It just means they get more hits when you link a thread and that means more stats for the owner to brag about and more advertising possibilities for the owner. Any contentious thread goes like this:

OP
Some commets
Have hey mentioned this on pasoti?
No - why ever NOT!
Yes - ha! see, they're all mad and/or lying about something

Bring back more threads about Bigfoot is what I say.

I voted for you   

QED