The brent appreciation society meeting!

Bandwagon wrote:

48 minutes of the same old - none the wiser for the future!!

Oh, I don't know. I certainly have more questions now!

The PASB is dead???
JB's lip doesn't quiver, tremble or buckle?
Prices will go up in the new ministand?
Bikers are not welcome?
Parking charges on matchdays?
Lots of money to be made at the expense of the club?
Buy a 10M asset for 2M and save the club 160K per year?
If bought back, the club would own the ground? (Who owns the club?)
A lot of "institutions" are involved? All these institutions care deeply about Argyle?
No school unless the government pays for it?
Supporters bar "working with others"? They would share in the profits? Why can't the club run it?

Everyone looked bored.

Well done Graham!

I'm more worried about the club after this Q&A than I was before!

Graham Clark posted on the farm at 5:19 pm, I thought he would have posted the same on here.

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I think it might be helpful to explain what James Brent said about the future of the Granstand in the lab spence of any other contributions from the meeting yesterday morning.

Akkeron are in the process of examining the responses to the 70 odd packages that form part of the overall contract for HHP. This is an involved process and requires negotiation on each of them to fix the contract price before any work can commence. There is still work to do on this but it was anticipated that it should be complete in a few weeks time.

Assuming all the contracts are signed and negotiated then there is a two stage process in respect of the grandstand. Firstly, all the alternative temporary accommodation (offices, changing rooms, corporate facilities etc.) has to be erected and made available for use. Most if not all of this will be in the exterior concourse corner between the Devonport and Lyndhurst. At the same time a full asbestos survey is required for the Grandstand. Given its construction date it is likely to contain dangerous asbestos that needs specialist assessment and theme a method statement for removal. The second stage is that if asbestos is found then it will require specialist removal and the grandstand will not be able to be demolished until this is complete. It will mean occupants of the grandstand being moved across to the Lyndhurst or Devonport significantly before demolition.

James Brent confirmed that the space termed 'community facilities' in the planning application (about 17,000 ft2) IS set aside for the studio school. A decision on public funding from the Government is expected in the next couple of months. James Brent confirmed that the redevelopment of the grandstand was not contingent on the studio school going ahead but did not say what use would take its place if grant funding was not forthcoming.

James Brent said that about three quarters of the HHP development has been pre-let but did not confirm whether that applied to the underground car park. He acknowledged that the Car Park Management plan for HHP had yet to be resolved ( with the Council). He confirmed there was an intention to include a supporters bar but did not make it clear whether this was sole access .for grandstand users only or for anyone else who could then access the rest of the ground.

James Brent confirmed that he had received either approaches or enquiries about selling the football club(I cannot remember the exact phrase used). He determined that he would only sell if it was in the best interests of the football club. I asked him specifically about whether he intended to exercise his option to purchase the freehold from the Council in. October 2016. He confirmed that it was his preference to do so. I expressed concern that this meant ant subsequent owner ( thinking of Todd and Gardner) may have a different view about revenues and rents to the football club. Whatever the calibre of a future owner it is a risk that in the wrong hands the future of the club could be at risk and that surely it would be better to ensure that the Home Park stadium forever rested in public hands. I am not sure James Brent agreed.

For some to say that nothing of importance was said at the meeting I find incredulous. I for one was grateful for the opportunity to ask testing questions without notice and get for the most part straight and direct answers. More please. It really was worthwhile.

"Misder Brent, is the passion of the Green Armeeee stardin to rub off on youm yet?"

What a toughie that one was. Straight out of Frost Nixon that!

lab spence   is he another damn yank..or have you been on the juice GC

Tim Chown wrote:

GreenSam wrote:

2) The answer from James Brent was an unequivocal yes- it would be used to the club (as it's on the football stadium, NOT the HHP land) for additional corporate and hospitality facilities primarily during games.

Good news.

The land that it's on though is, according to the PCC papers of 3rd Sep 2013, being transferred freehold to HHP Nominee Ltd:
"To implement the development project that was envisaged in the 2011 Agreement, Akkeron has now requested that approximately 1.22 acres of the Stadium site, currently contained within the 30-year lease, should be transferred freehold to HHP"
(the 1.22 acres includes the grandstand corner where the school is going and the gap between the grandstand and HHP land)

and then in the same document:
"In return for the eventual transfer of the freehold land, PAFC will pay an additional stadium rental of £30,000 per annum, i.e. increasing the stadium rental from £135,000 to £165,000 per annum, plus indexation, from the date of completion of the new Grandstand."

Hence the questions about the £30k rent increase.

HHP Nominee have also been transferred the original HHP plot (car park area), so appear have all the land required to build the development as freehold. While the benefit of the new build can come to PAFC (which is good news), it seems the corner of the stadium is no longer owned by PCC.

Tim

I still don't understand how the school will benefit the club beyond the "students" "gaining" "work experience" in the "magnificent 2-tiered" stand instead of "workers" being "paid" "wages".

There is something that really sticks in my craw when I see vastly wealthy men proclaim the benefits of people working without pay.

It just isn't right.

'He confirmed there was an intention to include a supporters bar'

Come on, FFS. An intention!!!


I had an intention to win the lotto last night. Didn't friggin happen though. But hey, that's what I intended.

"If money was no object it was affordable and there was no other good cause to spend money on would I rather have a 20, 22, 23, 24 thousand capacity stadium or an 18,000 capacity stadium then the answer would be a straight forward you would go for the bigger stadium"

Are f**king cinemas and f**king hotels and F*CKING ICERINKS a good cause!!!??

"The truth of it is funding on the mini-stand (sic) is very very tight"

You set the budget and the amount allocated to the stand - the whole shebang is costing 50 million quid - do you think we're ALL f*cking cretins? - here's an easy answer; don't build a hotel, build a bigger grandstand. TOSSER! TOSSER! TOSSER TOSS aaaaarggghhh!!!!

F*ck me he even tried saying he was prioritising the health of the oldies of Peverell by building the healthcare facility! What's he going to do next - turn water into Tribute and stock the 'intended' fans bar with it?!

That bit about the elderly was gobshite of the highest order.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

That bit about the elderly was gobshite of the highest order.

I needed a f**king medical centre when I heard that monstrous dollop of utter puke inducing sh!te spill from his gob

The very last question was my favourite, what a  

Jack Sheppard wrote:

The very last question was my favourite, what a   

I actually seriously can't bring myself to watch it. Any of it.

What was the last question?

Czarcasm wrote:

Jack Sheppard wrote:

The very last question was my favourite, what a   

I actually seriously can't bring myself to watch it. Any of it.

What was the  last question?

Yep czarcs the thought of watching 48 minutes of posh jimmy fills me with dread, i'd rather do the dishes and get the hoover out, than watch that shite!

Go on, you know you want to, you've only got to watch the last 30 seconds........you won't be disappointed.  

Jack Sheppard wrote:

Go on, you know you want to, you've only got to watch the last 30 seconds........you won't be disappointed.   

I cant, i would feel dirty if i got involved with jimmy's "rally for the simple"

From the sketchy bits about finance, it would seem the dosh has not yet been nailed - touting around the big pension funds, I won't hold my breath that all this is a done deal!!

Sufferedsince68 wrote:

Jack Sheppard wrote:

Go on, you know you want to, you've only got to watch the last 30 seconds........you won't be disappointed.   

I cant, i would feel dirty if i got involved with jimmy's "rally for the simple"

Here's a snapshot for you Suffered...................you getting excited now.  


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Jack Sheppard wrote:

Sufferedsince68 wrote:

Jack Sheppard wrote:

Go on, you know you want to, you've only got to watch the last 30 seconds........you won't be disappointed.   

I cant, i would feel dirty if i got involved with jimmy's "rally for the simple"

Here's a snapshot for you Suffered...................you getting excited now.   


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Sufferedsince68 wrote:

Jack Sheppard wrote:

Sufferedsince68 wrote:

Jack Sheppard wrote:

Go on, you know you want to, you've only got to watch the last 30 seconds........you won't be disappointed.   

I cant, i would feel dirty if i got involved with jimmy's "rally for the simple"

Here's a snapshot for you Suffered...................you getting excited now.   


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Did you spot Sensible and Hairy in the 2nd row ? Sensi is keeping his tits warm with his belt and Hairy's handlebar moustache is coming on a treat.

Jack Sheppard wrote:

Sufferedsince68 wrote:

Jack Sheppard wrote:

Sufferedsince68 wrote:

Jack Sheppard wrote:

Go on, you know you want to, you've only got to watch the last 30 seconds........you won't be disappointed.   

I cant, i would feel dirty if i got involved with jimmy's "rally for the simple"

Here's a snapshot for you Suffered...................you getting excited now.   


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Did you spot Sensible and Hairy in the 2nd row ? Sensi is keeping his tits warm with his belt and Hairy's handlebar moustache is coming on a treat.

Fookin ell jack, you'll be on the long long list of targets now!  

   

Ha ha!! ............. feking coffee's gone everywhere.    

Don't really like entering into the personal stuff generally but i must admit on this occasion;

   

Sufferedsince68 wrote:

Jack Sheppard wrote:

Sufferedsince68 wrote:

Jack Sheppard wrote:

Sufferedsince68 wrote:

Jack Sheppard wrote:

Go on, you know you want to, you've only got to watch the last 30 seconds........you won't be disappointed.   

I cant, i would feel dirty if i got involved with jimmy's "rally for the simple"

Here's a snapshot for you Suffered...................you getting excited now.   


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Did you spot Sensible and Hairy in the 2nd row ? Sensi is keeping his tits warm with his belt and Hairy's handlebar moustache is coming on a treat.

Fookin ell jack, you'll be on the long long list of targets now!  

It's only harmlesss banter, i like Sensi and Hairy, it's healthy to have posters who disagree with everyone else.  

HAIRY AND SENSIBLE


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Jack Sheppard wrote:

Go on, you know you want to, you've only got to watch the last 30 seconds........you won't be disappointed.   

I just watched the first 30 seconds on YT. I felt ill. Bullshit from the outset. Turned off after 31 seconds. When you have listened to corporate, political and so-called inspirational speakers for a few years, you can instantly smell tub-thumping, sickening, sycophantic BS. A bit like PMQ's.

That's why I live on an island and hate all humans. I wish.